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Posted: September 16, 2010, 10:23 pm - IP Logged

Hello Lantern. I'm from  New Mexico and I've been tracking the sister number or mirror number and putting it alongside where you have the vtrac.  The sister number for the September 10 draw was 351.  Which gave the pair 35 for the sept11 draw.  Backtracking shows some hits and misses. Just repeat the 8 and 835 is the draw.  It works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't.  I also add or subtract the outer two numbers of the sister or mirror number which gives me one or 2 numbers for the next draw.  The vtrac are new to me and I haven't had any luck with them yet.

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The Sep 10 pick 3 number was 806 so of course your Mirror number for it is 351.

And the Sep 11 pick 3 number was 835 so that technique that you used would work that time.

The VTrack is also new to me, that is, I have never yet tried to use it for prediction, maybe one day I will try it.

Good Luck to you!

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    Thanks for all your hard work on this subject.   I'm using a variety of methods that other users post on this board.  Also, I backtrack and see if some of the previous vtrac numbers hit for drawings two or three days later.  Joker17 methods hit and destiny2008 chart hit last night in New Mexico.  253 . I just missed it but hope to hit a straight tonight.  I appreciate your insight and hard work!

     

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      Thanks for all your hard work on this subject.   I'm using a variety of methods that other users post on this board.  Also, I backtrack and see if some of the previous vtrac numbers hit for drawings two or three days later.  Joker17 methods hit and destiny2008 chart hit last night in New Mexico.  253 . I just missed it but hope to hit a straight tonight.  I appreciate your insight and hard work!

       

      Cool

      I just took a very quick look at about a month of past draws from NM:

      Here are some points:

      A few past draws used for stats are mostly good for "Short Term Trends"

      For most accurate predictions, very detailed filters stats of very many filter patterns are needed for a very very long section of past draws.

      But the NEWEST short term, short section stats always (maybe) have precedence (Wharever the word), I mean have higher priority stats-wise.

      Such things are right for any pick 3 games anywhere.

      Draws can and should be broken drawn into their particular kinds of patterns-stats, like Singles, Doubles, High-Low, Even-Odd, Etc.

      But the stats should be seen at many levels, like at the level of all the numbers-past draws and then at levels of particular broken down kinds of pick 3 numbers.

      I have to talk in general terms because I am not ready to disclose every single detail.

      Stats and knowledge determine predictability, that is, the better and the more that you know, the higher that the predictability level should or might be.

      There should be some kind of logic to a prediction method or system and never mind Math logic, I am talking about "Rational Logic"

      As they say, there most be a way to the madness, some kind of rational logic to it, based on the stats of patterns of past winning numbers.

      Yes, much easier said than done, detailed suff takes too much work and time if done by hand, that might be why I never used it, I took the easy and lazy way, which produced not too accurate results.

      Here are the last few NM pick 3 numbers:


      8 0 0
      2 5 3
      4 0 3
      7 6 7
      4 3 6
      8 3 5
      8 0 6
      4 6 6
      5 5 9
      9 4 4
      3 4 8
      3 4 8
      7 4 1
      9 3 6
      0 1 5
      2 2 2
      2 4 0
      3 2 9
      9 8 4
      7 5 2
      4 2 2
      0 0 3
      6 8 1
      4 7 8
      0 6 9
      1 3 2
      7 4 1
      0 6 1
      7 6 8
      4 2 9
      5 1 9
      9 1 8
      0 2 1
      2 0 0
      1 6 6
      4 2 3
      5 8 0
      6 6 2
      0 9 7
      4 6 0
      0 0 9

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        Hello t, can help myself in seeing algorithms of it analyzes of arrears and frequency of the pick3 but for separate columns in the vertical or be statistical separate in the 3 columns of the pieces, thank you


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           *  Marks the spot. The crossroads where all the systems meet. XANA-DOO-DOO. ¤

          I like to look at the tracs as all being boxed, that way there are only 35 to work with and ordering the solution is the last thing to do. 125 Tracs are 35 when you process them in the positional wheel and inspect them (see systems on the menue bar).

          120 STRAIT, 90 DOUBLES AND TEN TRIPS=220 BOXED COMBINATIONS=35 tracs (125 tracs boxed).

           PLAY THE TRIPS STRAIT. With 35 tracs you have the effect of 1,000 combinations simplified.

          DD

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             *  Marks the spot. The crossroads where all the systems meet. XANA-DOO-DOO. ¤

            I like to look at the tracs as all being boxed, that way there are only 35 to work with and ordering the solution is the last thing to do. 125 Tracs are 35 when you process them in the positional wheel and inspect them (see systems on the menue bar).

            120 STRAIT, 90 DOUBLES AND TEN TRIPS=220 BOXED COMBINATIONS=35 tracs (125 tracs boxed).

             PLAY THE TRIPS STRAIT. With 35 tracs you have the effect of 1,000 combinations simplified.

            DD

            Are these the 35 boxed VTracks?:

            123, 124, 125, 134, 135, 145, 234, 235, 245, 345, 112, 113, 114, 115, 122, 133, 144, 155, 223, 224, 225, 233, 244, 255, 334, 335, 344, 355, 445, 455, 111, 222, 333, 444, 555

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              Well,

              Let us take another look at the VTracks, but this time at the regular ones, not at the modified ones:

              There are 60 singles:

              123, 124, 125, 123, 134, 135, 124, 134, 145, 125, 135, 145, 123, 124, 125, 123, 234, 235, 124, 234, 245, 125, 235, 245, 123, 134, 135, 123, 234, 235, 134, 234, 345, 135, 235, 345, 124, 134, 145, 124, 234, 245, 134, 234, 345, 145, 245, 345, 125, 135, 145, 125, 235, 245, 135, 235, 345, 145, 245, 345

              60 Doubles:

              112, 113, 114, 115, 112, 122, 113, 133, 114, 144, 115, 155, 112, 122, 122, 223, 224, 225, 223, 233, 224, 244, 225, 255, 113, 133, 223, 233, 133, 233, 334, 335, 334, 344, 335, 355, 114, 144, 224, 244, 334, 344, 144, 244, 344, 445, 445, 455, 115, 155, 225, 255, 335, 355, 445, 455, 155, 255, 355, 455

              And 5 Triples:

              111, 222, 333, 444, 555

              --------

              Here they are all of them:

              111
              112
              113
              114
              115
              121
              122
              123
              124
              125
              131
              132
              133
              134
              135
              141
              142
              143
              144
              145
              151
              152
              153
              154
              155
              211
              212
              213
              214
              215
              221
              222
              223
              224
              225
              231
              232
              233
              234
              235
              241
              242
              243
              244
              245
              251
              252
              253
              254
              255
              311
              312
              313
              314
              315
              321
              322
              323
              324
              325
              331
              332
              333
              334
              335
              341
              342
              343
              344
              345
              351
              352
              353
              354
              355
              411
              412
              413
              414
              415
              421
              422
              423
              424
              425
              431
              432
              433
              434
              435
              441
              442
              443
              444
              445
              451
              452
              453
              454
              455
              511
              512
              513
              514
              515
              521
              522
              523
              524
              525
              531
              532
              533
              534
              535
              541
              542
              543
              544
              545
              551
              552
              553
              554
              555

              Those were wrong because there is a bug problem with LotSoft, but here they are:

              60 Straight singles VTracks:

              123, 124, 125, 132, 134, 135, 142, 143, 145, 152, 153, 154, 213, 214, 215, 231, 234, 235, 241, 243, 245, 251, 253, 254, 312, 314, 315, 321, 324, 325, 341, 342, 345, 351, 352, 354, 412, 413, 415, 421, 423, 425, 431, 432, 435, 451, 452, 453, 512, 513, 514, 521, 523, 524, 531, 532, 534, 541, 542, 543

              60 Straight doubles Vtracks:

              112, 113, 114, 115, 121, 122, 131, 133, 141, 144, 151, 155, 211, 212, 221, 223, 224, 225, 232, 233, 242, 244, 252, 255, 311, 313, 322, 323, 331, 332, 334, 335, 343, 344, 353, 355, 411, 414, 422, 424, 433, 434, 441, 442, 443, 445, 454, 455, 511, 515, 522, 525, 533, 535, 544, 545, 551, 552, 553, 554

              5 Straight triples VTracks:

              111, 222, 333, 444, 555

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                What might be the best practical Power Filter?

                Probably Digits Filtration, either In or Out and not just for VTracks but also for the regular pick 3 numbers.

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                  I have been trying to sell my spreadsheet because it really exposes vtracs.

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                    I have been trying to sell my spreadsheet because it really exposes vtracs.

                    Besides showing that video, some winning predictions might help sales (?).

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                      Are these the 35 boxed VTracks?:

                      123, 124, 125, 134, 135, 145, 234, 235, 245, 345, 112, 113, 114, 115, 122, 133, 144, 155, 223, 224, 225, 233, 244, 255, 334, 335, 344, 355, 445, 455, 111, 222, 333, 444, 555

                      Lantern, see my post in vtrac for dummies Jan 10, 2010.

                       At first glance it looks like the 35.

                      Winsum is the first to point out the 35 but he might have gotten the idea from the author of vtracs. The 125 are still important but if you look at the thread above there are sub groups within the 35. Not every boxed vtrac delivers 8 combinations (the vtrac Mirror).

                      Raven pointed that out in a thread of yours in the spring. He/she/it did not explaine in depth what he/she/it posted. There are 5 tracs with 4 combinations, 10 tracks with 8 and 20 tracs with 6 combinations. 5+10+20=35. Tracs rarely repeat draw to draw so you could say you have a 1:34 chance to get the next one right! If you correctly select the next trac and it has 4 BOXED combinations (the mirrors,.. search is your friend here) , you have a 1:4 chance to get it right. If trips are not due by that trac, then you have a 1:3 chance to select the right BOXED combination. Play all three boxed.

                      DD


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                        I have been trying to sell my spreadsheet because it really exposes vtracs.

                        That was cool but there was no audio, I thought I went deaf. What did you find about Vtracs that is important to a beta tester?

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                          Besides showing that video, some winning predictions might help sales (?).

                          Finding the picks is fairly easy to me. the more hard part for me is accurately narrowing the list down. I can almost effectively eliminate 80 numbers for each and every draw in any state. 220-80=140. This will include doubles and singles. I have many filters but as we all know, luck plays a really big part in that area. I can use the same 140 numbers and hit up to 15 times in a row on occasions. The profit is little if you dont figure in a few doubles. the video only shows part of the arsenal, not all of it. Nevertheless, I am still configuring and implementing ideas to the sheet.

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                            The only flawed but reasonable part of using vtracs is that they are divided into singles doubles and triples. this automatically enforces a filter from the start. So you have to pick your poison. If chosen correctly you could easily win because you would only have to play about 56 for singles or 56 for doubles or 28 for double singles. with my sheet I can choose 2 without selecting one of the above 3 filters but it will still leave me at 99 numbers. the more i work on the sheet the more effective i will be at choosing a playable amount of numbers. 

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                              Lantern, see my post in vtrac for dummies Jan 10, 2010.

                               At first glance it looks like the 35.

                              Winsum is the first to point out the 35 but he might have gotten the idea from the author of vtracs. The 125 are still important but if you look at the thread above there are sub groups within the 35. Not every boxed vtrac delivers 8 combinations (the vtrac Mirror).

                              Raven pointed that out in a thread of yours in the spring. He/she/it did not explaine in depth what he/she/it posted. There are 5 tracs with 4 combinations, 10 tracks with 8 and 20 tracs with 6 combinations. 5+10+20=35. Tracs rarely repeat draw to draw so you could say you have a 1:34 chance to get the next one right! If you correctly select the next trac and it has 4 BOXED combinations (the mirrors,.. search is your friend here) , you have a 1:4 chance to get it right. If trips are not due by that trac, then you have a 1:3 chance to select the right BOXED combination. Play all three boxed.

                              DD

                              Delta

                              The 35 that I posted do appear to be the 35 boxed VTracks.

                              As to all the other stuff that you posted about there on that post, I got no time to try to look into it today, maybe this weekend.

                              Thanks a lot!

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