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Why are there no play slips for wheels ?

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Posted: September 29, 2010, 12:47 pm - IP Logged

Has anyone come across a lottery operator that puts out play slips designed for wheeling systems ?

If not, don't you find it strange ?

I would have thought this to be an excellent marketing ploy to get players to part with more money, and save time for syndicate players.

In fact I suspect this could either be a terms and licensing issue for the lottery operators, or a conspiracy to discourage large systematic bettings.

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    Posted: September 29, 2010, 12:54 pm - IP Logged

    here in my state in oz, they have system entry for full wheels upto 20 numbers. i guess if they had abreviated wheels them if 6 numbers came out in the 20 selected and you didnt hit the 6 numbers there would be all sorts of crying and gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair.  amd

    " why didnt you sell me a wininng system " being bleated about by the lossers.

     

    the most expensive system they offer is a sys 15 with all 45 powewrballs covered for $94,449.20

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      Posted: September 29, 2010, 1:03 pm - IP Logged

      I can see the problems with abbreviated wheels on confirmation slips.

      So the conspiracy theory is out, at least in Oz.

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        Posted: September 29, 2010, 1:08 pm - IP Logged

        well they also want payslips, not a usb stick and a txt6 file with numbers formatted  i dunno in a *.lot file format

        even online purchases ive seen dont allow a cut n paste option usually its a  window with so many 1-49 boxes to tick.,

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          Posted: September 29, 2010, 1:22 pm - IP Logged

          When lottery was first introduced in UK over 15 years ago, there was a lot of media coverage and I vaguely remember hearing an expert or lottery insider said that a ticket terminal will shut down if it detects an attempt to process all possible combinations.

          Online account holders can only play by filling in boxes on screen up to 25 or 35 lines at a time. Syndicate accounts can have more lines, but still not possible to play full permutation entries like the football pools coupons.

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            Posted: September 29, 2010, 6:23 pm - IP Logged

            When lottery was first introduced in UK over 15 years ago, there was a lot of media coverage and I vaguely remember hearing an expert or lottery insider said that a ticket terminal will shut down if it detects an attempt to process all possible combinations.

            Online account holders can only play by filling in boxes on screen up to 25 or 35 lines at a time. Syndicate accounts can have more lines, but still not possible to play full permutation entries like the football pools coupons.

            Some years ago there was an Australian group that tried to buy all the possible combinations in a Virgina lottery.  They made out play slips and waited for the jackpot to get large enough to make a profit by buying all the combinations.  They took over three Seven-Eleven stores terminals for three days and tried to run all their play slips and even thought they didn't run them all they did win the jackpot.  Fortunately they were the only jackpot winner and they made a profit.

            Afterward most states changed their rules such that no one or group could control a lottery terminal longer than 20 minutes if others were waiting to use it.  Now days, lottery odds are such that most lottery jackpot are won when less the half the possible combinations are played and jackpots cash values seldom get large enough to cover playing all the combinations and making a profit.  Once in a while a pick5 game jackpot will get that large but are usually won by more than one player so while a group can still play an unlimited number of combinations if they can find enough terminal time to do it, the opportunities to make a profit are not there.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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