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You, your state's lottery director!

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Posted: October 4, 2010, 1:42 am - IP Logged

Comgratulations! You've just been made the director or commissioner of the lottery for your state.

What changes would you make, what ideas would you come up with?

You can't change the matrixes, but you can change some payouts.

For example, Illlinois and Missouri both have a 5/39 Pick 5 game.

4 of 5 pays $100 in Illinois and $250 in Missouri, that's a noticeable difference.

Bear in m9ind, you are running a lottery and everything has to be to the advantage of the lottery, not the player.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

    savagegoose's avatar - ProfilePho
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    Posted: October 4, 2010, 1:52 am - IP Logged

    id change keno to 10c a game to encourage more combo plays although the pot would need to decrease,. although you could still have a $1 min bet and people  could put 10 bets on same number as before; equalling  the same bet as earlier., and still collect the same prize as before.

    2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

    keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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      Posted: October 4, 2010, 2:12 am - IP Logged

      Comgratulations! You've just been made the director or commissioner of the lottery for your state.

      What changes would you make, what ideas would you come up with?

      You can't change the matrixes, but you can change some payouts.

      For example, Illlinois and Missouri both have a 5/39 Pick 5 game.

      4 of 5 pays $100 in Illinois and $250 in Missouri, that's a noticeable difference.

      Bear in m9ind, you are running a lottery and everything has to be to the advantage of the lottery, not the player.

      4 of 5 pays $100 in Illinois and $250 in Missouri, that's a noticeable difference.

      Ohio is even better, 4 of 5 pays $300 and the minimum jackpot is $100,000.  In Missouri it's $50,000, but they both roll if there isn't a winner.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Posted: October 4, 2010, 11:07 am - IP Logged

        4 of 5 pays $100 in Illinois and $250 in Missouri, that's a noticeable difference.

        Ohio is even better, 4 of 5 pays $300 and the minimum jackpot is $100,000.  In Missouri it's $50,000, but they both roll if there isn't a winner.

        $300 is even better yet!

        Yeah, Illinois rolls too, and has been over $1 million a few times.

        It used to be 5/30, 2 numbers didn't pay (now they pay $1), but the 4 of 5 , and maybe 3 of 5 was pari-mutuel. But people wanted to get paid for two numbers, so now it's fixed at 2 pays $1, 3 pays $10, and 4 pays $100.

        If I remember right, when it was 5/30 the jackpot was locked in at $200,000.

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Posted: October 4, 2010, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

          I would get rid of Cash 5 and bring in a pick 5 game numbers game like PA's Quinto.

          Cash 5 has a payout of about $22,000 on average, is paramutuel, and odds of 435,897 to 1. It sucks.

          Quinto has a payout of 50K and odds of 100,000 to 1. No paramutuel.

          Of course, it's not that easy in Tx. There has to be public comments periods, and discussions and such before they do anything about anything.

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            Posted: October 4, 2010, 12:44 pm - IP Logged

            Comgratulations! You've just been made the director or commissioner of the lottery for your state.

            What changes would you make, what ideas would you come up with?

            You can't change the matrixes, but you can change some payouts.

            For example, Illlinois and Missouri both have a 5/39 Pick 5 game.

            4 of 5 pays $100 in Illinois and $250 in Missouri, that's a noticeable difference.

            Bear in m9ind, you are running a lottery and everything has to be to the advantage of the lottery, not the player.

            Have fixed jackpot and roll over all 2nd, 3rd, ect.. prize amounts

            RL

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              Posted: October 4, 2010, 6:09 pm - IP Logged

              Have fixed jackpot and roll over all 2nd, 3rd, ect.. prize amounts

              RL

              RL,

              If you meant a Pick 5 the lower prizes are hit every drawing, there would be no rolling over.

              Here's last night for Illinois, and this is typical. I can't think of any drawing when no one hit 4 of 5.

              LITTLE LOTTO PRIZE PAYOUTS FOR SUNDAY, OCTOBER 03, 2010
               
               WINNING NUMBERS: 14 - 27 - 32 - 34 - 35
               
               
               PLAYERS MATCHING 5 OF 5 NUMBERS
                  INCLUDING SUBSCRIPTION WINNERS            0
               EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE                 $0.00
               
               
               PLAYERS MATCHING 4 OF 5 NUMBERS             61
               EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE               $100.00
               
               
               PLAYERS MATCHING 3 OF 5 NUMBERS          1,998
               EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE                $10.00
               
               
               PLAYERS MATCHING 2 OF 5 NUMBERS         21,548
               EACH PLAYER WILL RECEIVE                 $1.00
               
               
               THE LITTLE LOTTO GRAND PRIZE FOR MONDAY, OCTOBER 04, 2010 IS     $200,000

              For the Pick 6 and 5+1 a fixed jackpot would probably really decrease interest in the game.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: October 5, 2010, 12:13 am - IP Logged

                Some things I would do:

                - Improve the payouts for jackpot games

                - If I happen to be in a state that uses computerized drawings, I would switch back to ball and machine drawings. (I am in Virginia, which does ball and machine drawings).

                - I would probably run a bunch of promotional advertisements featuring my avatar, the "Lottery Otter" (if you take L and Y off Lottery, you get Otter, that is why I chose an otter).

                Today's winning 3-ball is going to be a number between 000 and 999.

                In a lot of states, lotteries benefit education. That makes the REAL winners the only people who can't play!


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                  Posted: October 5, 2010, 12:21 am - IP Logged

                  I would immediately stop the multiple pretests, rotation of the tubes, rotation of the 3 or more sets, and stop using the excuse of prevantative maintenance as a justification for these illicit behaviors.

                  I'd probably get fired for doing this.......lol

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                    Posted: October 5, 2010, 1:00 am - IP Logged

                    Maryland's bonus match 5 would either go back to being a tax free jackpot prize or have incremental dollar amounts added to the pot for every day it's not won.

                    Perks for purchasing pick 3 or 4 games would be year round double your winnings on selected draws, bonus tickets and or matching 2 front or rear numbers.

                    Make the games more interesting for people to want to play.

                    Petition mega millions to add the multiplier here.

                    Re structure all the scratch off games so the monies collected can go to different causes not just to the general fund. Doing it this way would increase customer draw as they would know before hand where their money is going.

                    More give aways on selected days, functions, and events the Maryland lottery participates in.

                    Have a raffle at least once a year.

                    Make available the video drawings for every draw every day in a timely manner on the website.

                    Reinstate live drawings televised events no matter what the programing except if it involves federal guidelines and the FCC.

                    Make sure all security measures are followed for every draw no matter what - change tubes, calibrate balls and machines and hold pre test draws in accordance with the by laws written at the time of the lottery's inception.

                    Review every retailer that sells tickets for the lottery to make sure they are in accordance with the contract they signed and not duping the customers out of any winnings they should have collected.

                    If i were a newly appointed director i would go through the whole operation from top to bottom and make all necessary changes.

                    Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

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                      Well, I think I'd raise the payouts on both Pick 3 and 4. This ultimately allows the player to run more numbers for better consistency from one draw to the next while still turning a descent profit. Then, I'd try and implement a way for players to actually play "TRUE ONLINE" with utilizing software to play and validate their numbers. This would require stores to have a database for players to log into, of course, and they wouldn't lose any money at all. Paper tickets should be a thing of the past as most everything is online this day and time and is all about convenience. Hint hint lotto officials that may be reading this...

                      Then, there are the pre-tests. Hmmmm. I've taken pre-tests results from most of the states, both mechanical and RNG, and they're pretty consistent as they should be. These tests are run to validate the consistency of ball weights, machine pressures, and vacuums. The states must have a STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE  to test the products they use in an effort to provide fairness and quality control. This is all the pre-tests do in addition to providing a baseline for how much money should be made and lost in the process. In the end, it all balances out.

                      Contrary to even my own popular belief, the pre-tests are our friends...believe it.

                       

                      L.L.

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                        Posted: October 5, 2010, 8:23 am - IP Logged

                        Maryland's bonus match 5 would either go back to being a tax free jackpot prize or have incremental dollar amounts added to the pot for every day it's not won.

                        Perks for purchasing pick 3 or 4 games would be year round double your winnings on selected draws, bonus tickets and or matching 2 front or rear numbers.

                        Make the games more interesting for people to want to play.

                        Petition mega millions to add the multiplier here.

                        Re structure all the scratch off games so the monies collected can go to different causes not just to the general fund. Doing it this way would increase customer draw as they would know before hand where their money is going.

                        More give aways on selected days, functions, and events the Maryland lottery participates in.

                        Have a raffle at least once a year.

                        Make available the video drawings for every draw every day in a timely manner on the website.

                        Reinstate live drawings televised events no matter what the programing except if it involves federal guidelines and the FCC.

                        Make sure all security measures are followed for every draw no matter what - change tubes, calibrate balls and machines and hold pre test draws in accordance with the by laws written at the time of the lottery's inception.

                        Review every retailer that sells tickets for the lottery to make sure they are in accordance with the contract they signed and not duping the customers out of any winnings they should have collected.

                        If i were a newly appointed director i would go through the whole operation from top to bottom and make all necessary changes.

                        I saw in the proposed rules for Tx Lottery that they are going to have a comment period regarding the MM megaplier. We have the mega plier here, but it is paid 2x, 3x, or 4x, whichever special number is pulled for that drawing. Now they are looking into having a payout like PB which if a player has the first 5 numbers with the megaplier, the prize will be $1 million.

                        I am surprised some of the other states don't have megaplier. I like to play it on occasion.

                        CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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                          Posted: October 5, 2010, 8:47 pm - IP Logged

                          Find a way to stop putting lottery money in Raven Stadium....Green laugh

                          Make the Racetrax andd Keno games looser...I'd like to win a more money than $2-$6 @ a time.

                          Feeling,  PRICELESS!!!Banana

                          Come on Jackpot!!!

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                            Posted: October 6, 2010, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

                            I'd make all the in state games ball drawn and I would redo the pick 5 game. I would change it to 1 dollar and 1 drawing a night and the payout would start out $100,000 instead of $20,000. I would also add a Pick 4 game.

                            "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

                              four4me's avatar - gate1
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                              Posted: October 18, 2010, 11:20 am - IP Logged

                              Maryland's bonus match 5 would either go back to being a tax free jackpot prize or have incremental dollar amounts added to the pot for every day it's not won.

                              Perks for purchasing pick 3 or 4 games would be year round double your winnings on selected draws, bonus tickets and or matching 2 front or rear numbers.

                              Make the games more interesting for people to want to play.

                              Petition mega millions to add the multiplier here.

                              Re structure all the scratch off games so the monies collected can go to different causes not just to the general fund. Doing it this way would increase customer draw as they would know before hand where their money is going.

                              More give aways on selected days, functions, and events the Maryland lottery participates in.

                              Have a raffle at least once a year.

                              Make available the video drawings for every draw every day in a timely manner on the website.

                              Reinstate live drawings televised events no matter what the programing except if it involves federal guidelines and the FCC.

                              Make sure all security measures are followed for every draw no matter what - change tubes, calibrate balls and machines and hold pre test draws in accordance with the by laws written at the time of the lottery's inception.

                              Review every retailer that sells tickets for the lottery to make sure they are in accordance with the contract they signed and not duping the customers out of any winnings they should have collected.

                              If i were a newly appointed director i would go through the whole operation from top to bottom and make all necessary changes.

                              Well somebody must have been reading these posts because MD lottery just added the megaplier option for mega millions.

                              http://marylandlottery.wordpress.com/2010/10/

                              Been wating a long time for this

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