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Dealing with Past Drawings

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garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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Posted: October 6, 2010, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

I was looking at the past draws in the Texas Lotto this morning and became aware it has undergone several major changes through the years.

It began in November, 1992 as a 6 of 50 drawing.

In July, 2000 it morphed into a 6 of 54, but kept the same name.

Then in May, 2003 it morphed again, becoming a 5 of 44 with a 1 of 44 (bonus ball). It was still called the Texas Lotto.

The latest change was April, 2006 when it reverted back to a 6 of 54. This remains the current version, still named the Texas Lotto.

 

WHAT I AM SEEING:


These changes are going to produce flaws in the historical analysis if we include all the data back to 1992 (since numbers above 50 were not in the matrix).

Likewise drawings between May, 2003 and April, 2006 will not produce hits above 44. And the bonus ball will, at times, match a number drawn in the 5 of 44 (inflating a numbers hit total).

 

MY QUESTIONS:

 

How does one go about determining the necesssary data to use?

Do we throw out everything before April, 2006? Or include the data between July 2000 and May 2003?

Thoughts?

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    Posted: October 6, 2010, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

    I would say the game as ity is now could only be referred to the same game as it was then, meaning the same matrix. Anything with a different matrix can only produce skewed data.

    Think if a state took their Pick 3 and eliminated the zero. Looking at past results from then on wouldn't do much good, would it?

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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      Posted: October 6, 2010, 7:44 pm - IP Logged

      I would say the game as ity is now could only be referred to the same game as it was then, meaning the same matrix. Anything with a different matrix can only produce skewed data.

      Think if a state took their Pick 3 and eliminated the zero. Looking at past results from then on wouldn't do much good, would it?

      Think if a state took their Pick 3 and eliminated the zero. Looking at past results from then on wouldn't do much good, would it?

       

      With all the multiple pretests they do before a drawing, and with the rotation of the tubes and rotation of sets of tubes, it really doesn't matter. It's skewed from the getgo....Mad

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        Posted: October 6, 2010, 8:08 pm - IP Logged

        I was looking at the past draws in the Texas Lotto this morning and became aware it has undergone several major changes through the years.

        It began in November, 1992 as a 6 of 50 drawing.

        In July, 2000 it morphed into a 6 of 54, but kept the same name.

        Then in May, 2003 it morphed again, becoming a 5 of 44 with a 1 of 44 (bonus ball). It was still called the Texas Lotto.

        The latest change was April, 2006 when it reverted back to a 6 of 54. This remains the current version, still named the Texas Lotto.

         

        WHAT I AM SEEING:


        These changes are going to produce flaws in the historical analysis if we include all the data back to 1992 (since numbers above 50 were not in the matrix).

        Likewise drawings between May, 2003 and April, 2006 will not produce hits above 44. And the bonus ball will, at times, match a number drawn in the 5 of 44 (inflating a numbers hit total).

         

        MY QUESTIONS:

         

        How does one go about determining the necesssary data to use?

        Do we throw out everything before April, 2006? Or include the data between July 2000 and May 2003?

        Thoughts?

        When I do any number crunching for TX Lotto I use all of the pick 6 history. I do not include the drawings when it was a pick 5 plus bonus ball.

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          Posted: October 6, 2010, 8:57 pm - IP Logged

          Just look at all the 6/54 results as if it never changed.

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            Posted: October 6, 2010, 9:55 pm - IP Logged

            If your are looking for guidance, I suggest you start with latest 6/54 game starting in April, 2006.

            Like all states, Texas introduces new drawing equipment and ball sets from time to time for all of the games.

            The Texas Lotto machines and ball sets were replaced on Feb. 1, 2009, which could be a good starting point when analyzing past
            drawings.

            Personally, I wouldn't use any of the draw results prior to April 2006  when different machines and ball sets were in use.

            Some folks don't think changing machines and ball sets makes a difference, but I think it does.

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              Posted: October 6, 2010, 10:07 pm - IP Logged

              It's no different with PowerBall.

              until Nov 1, 1997 - 5/45+1/42
              Nov 5,1997 - 5/49+1/42
              Oct 9,2002 - 1/53+1/42
              Aug 31,2005 - 5/55+1/42
              Jan 7,2009 - 5/59+1/39

              For tonight drawing, I used the last 182 drawings to predict my picks but I check them against the whole history to make sure I wasn't using any repeat combinations.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
                           Evil Looking       

                garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                Posted: October 7, 2010, 2:46 pm - IP Logged

                *Pirate Arrrrgh*

                Editing requires more grog.  *moan*

                *Looks at 3 of 6 winning ticket*

                Me knowest now by which we was waylaid.

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                  Posted: October 11, 2010, 9:46 pm - IP Logged

                  When I used to analyze Mega Millions, I just extrapolated. I came up with a ratio to determine how many times 53-56 would have won when the highest ball was 52. Now I analyze just the Pick-3 and I am pleased to say that I have not encountered this problem. (Only problem I have come up with was when, after 18 years, Virginia finally introduced Sunday drawings).

                  Today's winning 3-ball is going to be a number between 000 and 999.

                  In a lot of states, lotteries benefit education. That makes the REAL winners the only people who can't play!

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                    Posted: October 13, 2010, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

                    The Lotto Draw Equipment usually undergoes changes at least once every year or two

                    if you're going to factor in the Draw Equipment in your pattern recognition system, I'd say don't go back further than 2 years at most!

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