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West Virginia Pick 3 Evening now at LDR 7 = 44 and LDR 4 = 39
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OK West Virginia your day is today. 2 LDR (Short Sums) at 40 skips or more.
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Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on Feb 3, 2011
OK West Virginia your day is today. 2 LDR (Short Sums) at 40 skips or more.

Hmmm........ good time to begin playing some of those.....that's for sure Steve!

Recent high skips for those sums are 46..and 53 .....so we have to be close ......if not right at it.

It's pretty nice when you can start using a 80% sums filter like this particular set up in WV. Thanks, this is interesting in several more ways than just the 50/50 sums filter it started with.

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Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

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It might be interesting to know how high of a skip ........any old  5 sums group can go .......in general.

What are the breaking points for such 5 sum groups....or 5 gates?

Right now in WV   the top 5 skipping sums are ....7,4,9,3,8....... skipping 44,39,15,12,and 9.....total 119 days skipping for all 5.

What have been the normal average breaking points in past draws ......... for any such 5 sum group ? ......or 4,,or 3 ,,, etc.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

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Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Feb 3, 2011
It might be interesting to know how high of a skip ........any old 5 sums group can go .......in general.

What are the breaking points for such 5 sum groups....or 5 gates?

Right now in WV the top 5 skipping sums are ....7,4,9,3,8....... skipping 44,39,15,12,and 9.....total 119 days skipping for all 5.

What have been the normal average breaking points in past draws ......... for any such 5 sum group ? ......or 4,,or 3 ,,, etc.

Here's the NJ Midday Skip Count Totals by SLD: (Note: The Max Skip for Each SLD)

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SLD 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
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Max 58 51 62 57 62 57 70 60 52 53 Total
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00 32 35 33 27 31 26 30 46 37 35 332
01 33 40 35 29 24 25 32 34 35 31 318
02 28 33 28 34 17 35 21 25 25 28 274
03 18 32 35 29 15 29 29 23 28 22 260
04 19 26 18 26 16 15 25 20 25 19 209
05 13 28 16 18 17 14 14 23 15 18 176
06 10 16 16 19 14 16 22 15 20 21 169
07 15 21 14 13 16 13 16 22 20 12 162
08 10 18 14 14 21 18 18 11 9 16 149
09 15 14 13 9 8 10 14 9 13 15 120
10 13 9 15 6 10 13 16 16 13 16 127
11 10 7 11 7 7 12 11 16 7 9 97
12 11 14 11 14 2 9 5 11 8 9 94
13 11 13 10 11 13 6 9 7 9 10 99
14 8 8 9 5 7 8 11 10 10 5 81
15 7 12 6 4 7 5 5 7 12 6 71
16 5 5 6 6 2 4 7 6 10 6 57
17 5 4 13 3 6 2 5 4 9 4 55
18 2 2 4 5 8 7 10 7 6 2 53
19 8 4 2 7 5 5 4 5 6 5 51
20 3 5 2 6 5 6 5 3 2 3 40
21 9 2 9 3 3 1 7 1 6 6 47
22 3 4 3 4 3 4 2 1 1 2 27
23 4 4 2 1 5 1 4 3 2 2 28
24 1 0 3 0 2 4 3 3 3 3 22
25 1 2 2 1 2 1 0 2 4 6 21
26 3 2 3 0 4 4 3 3 0 2 24
27 1 2 1 4 5 5 2 3 3 3 29
28 2 2 1 6 4 2 0 3 0 3 23
29 1 2 2 0 1 3 1 2 1 4 17
30 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 4
31 1 0 1 3 1 1 0 2 2 1 12
32 3 2 0 0 2 0 0 4 2 1 14
33 2 1 2 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 11
34 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 5
35 1 1 1 3 1 2 1 0 1 0 11
36 0 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 5
37 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 4
38 1 1 0 1 2 1 2 0 0 2 10
39 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 3
40 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1
41 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 2
42 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 2 0 0 7
43 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 6
44 0 0 0 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 5
45 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
46 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 2
47 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2
48 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 3
49 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
50 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
51 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 3
52 0 . 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 3
53 0 . 0 0 0 3 0 0 . 1 4
54 0 . 0 0 0 0 0 0 . . 0
55 0 . 0 0 0 0 0 0 . . 0
56 0 . 0 0 0 0 0 0 . . 0
57 0 . 0 1 1 1 0 0 . . 3
58 1 . 0 . 0 . 0 0 . . 1
59 . . 0 . 0 . 0 0 . . 0
60 . . 0 . 0 . 1 1 . . 2
61 . . 0 . 0 . 0 . . . 0
62 . . 1 . 1 . 0 . . . 2
63 . . . . . . 0 . . . 0
64 . . . . . . 0 . . . 0
65 . . . . . . 0 . . . 0
66 . . . . . . 0 . . . 0
67 . . . . . . 0 . . . 0
68 . . . . . . 0 . . . 0
69 . . . . . . 0 . . . 0
70 . . . . . . 1 . . . 1
=================================================================================
318 376 347 329 295 317 340 353 350 334 3359
=================================================================================

Key: Max=Max Skip, 00 thru 70=Skip

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Winner Steve!...............095= 14 Midday WV today....... Sum 4

Thank you for the NJ stats on those sums Raven. Wonder if there is a way to extrapolate those individual sum stats .....to totals of 2 long out sums running at the same time.....or 3,,, or even 5 running at the same time. Wish we could extend those out some how so we could infer. Break points that is...... for more than just one sum at a time. Hmmm

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Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Feb 3, 2011
Winner Steve!...............095= 14 Midday WV today....... Sum 4

Thank you for the NJ stats on those sums Raven. Wonder if there is a way to extrapolate those individual sum stats .....to totals of 2 long out sums running at the same time.....or 3,,, or even 5 running at the same time. Wish we could extend those out some how so we could infer. Break points that is...... for more than just one sum at a time. Hmmm

I was think that this Chart for NJ Midday did that:

SLD 0 9 7 6 1 3 8 2 4 5

Skip 00 01 02 04 05 08 09 11 13 24

Count 3 6 4 3 4 3 2 4 4 2 Totals Last 35 Draws

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Quote: Originally posted by Raven62 on Feb 5, 2011
I was think that this Chart for NJ Midday did that:

SLD 0 9 7 6 1 3 8 2 4 5

Skip 00 01 02 04 05 08 09 11 13 24

Count 3 6 4 3 4 3 2 4 4 2 Totals Last 35 Draws

Thanks Raven..... I'm not doing a good job of describing what I mean ....or I'm not getting what you mean.

By looking at those recent numbers next to the short sums..... 5 is out 24, 4 is out 13, 2 is out skipping 11.....etc... what is that telling you?

Do you see a tipping point there .....based on the total skips? I'm I just missing it?

The thing I think I want to see is this.....

Going back in time ...I would like to see all of the large 5 sum group skips and the moment they fell. Freeze it each time. Each time a long on going group of 5 sums comes together for a long time......and then finally hits. I want to know what the various totals for each those different PACKs of 5 long out sums.

I can see the records for each of the individual sums up there..... and thats good too.....but, that reflects individual records per individual sum.....not the Group of 5 sums that were out at different times. The freeze frame totals for each of the 5 .....at that time that particular group finally fell.

Gee... .. I'm sorry if my explanation doesn't make it. It is a sliding scale kinda deal I know..... and it does make one's eyes cross.

I know..... its sorta like the "6 digit strings" in lotsoft. The digits change but each time a group of the same 6 digits get together .....and stay together for a long time they average a certain number of hits. It's like that.... we can know the individual digits records for skips right....but all together as a group ....well, thats different right?

Maybe it can't be done Raven.....or perhaps it's to vague to matter .....but I would like to see it for myself some day...just to make sure. LOL

* FYI....

for those who like6 digit string stats....... the average time in which a 6 digit string stays together ..... should be around 6.4 % of the time. If a 6 digit string gets above 23.36 days on a skip ......it's above it's expected average....and due to hit.

Wish I could produce the same sort of estimate for a skipping 5 sum group.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

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Correction: On that "6 digit string" hit rate average of 23.36 up there.

Note:

Where as ...a specific 6 digit string will hit on average of 23.36 times per year (365) ....... the average hit rate for a 6 digit string will actually be around 15.62 draws or around every16 days.

So, when a six digit string gets above 16 days on a skip...... it has then reached it's tipping point .....or average hit rate, and is now due for a hit.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

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Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Feb 6, 2011
Thanks Raven..... I'm not doing a good job of describing what I mean ....or I'm not getting what you mean.

By looking at those recent numbers next to the short sums..... 5 is out 24, 4 is out 13, 2 is out skipping 11.....etc... what is that telling you?

Do you see a tipping point there .....based on the total skips? I'm I just missing it?

The thing I think I want to see is this.....

Going back in time ...I would like to see all of the large 5 sum group skips and the moment they fell. Freeze it each time. Each time a long on going group of 5 sums comes together for a long time......and then finally hits. I want to know what the various totals for each those different PACKs of 5 long out sums.

I can see the records for each of the individual sums up there..... and thats good too.....but, that reflects individual records per individual sum.....not the Group of 5 sums that were out at different times. The freeze frame totals for each of the 5 .....at that time that particular group finally fell.

Gee... .. I'm sorry if my explanation doesn't make it. It is a sliding scale kinda deal I know..... and it does make one's eyes cross.

I know..... its sorta like the "6 digit strings" in lotsoft. The digits change but each time a group of the same 6 digits get together .....and stay together for a long time they average a certain number of hits. It's like that.... we can know the individual digits records for skips right....but all together as a group ....well, thats different right?

Maybe it can't be done Raven.....or perhaps it's to vague to matter .....but I would like to see it for myself some day...just to make sure. LOL

* FYI....

for those who like6 digit string stats....... the average time in which a 6 digit string stays together ..... should be around 6.4 % of the time. If a 6 digit string gets above 23.36 days on a skip ......it's above it's expected average....and due to hit.

Wish I could produce the same sort of estimate for a skipping 5 sum group.

Chaz,

The image below shows the current longest out LDS (6,7,1,2,0) and the stats for those 5 LDS. The max skip for that group of 5 is 13 skips with 474 hits/avg 2.1. Would be near impossible to show all of them.
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Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Feb 7, 2011
Chaz,

The image below shows the current longest out LDS (6,7,1,2,0) and the stats for those 5 LDS. The max skip for that group of 5 is 13 skips with 474 hits/avg 2.1. Would be near impossible to show all of them.

The above is for Fl Mid. May be tracking the wrong stat with 5 longest out , might want to use max skip. Look at 0,1,2,8,9,max skip 7, but the 3 longest out are 0,1,2.
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Hey Chaz,

Your Georgia Pick 3 combined draws are almost at the 40+ / 40+

Your 2 days or 4 draws from the mark.

LDR = 8 @ 39 skips

LDR = 9 @ 36 skips
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Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on Feb 9, 2011
Hey Chaz,

Your Georgia Pick 3 combined draws are almost at the 40+ / 40+

Your 2 days or 4 draws from the mark.

LDR = 8 @ 39 skips

LDR = 9 @ 36 skips

Georgia Combined draws 2 draws away from 40+/ 40+

If both the midday and evening draws today DO NOT have an LDR of 8 or 9 then Friday's Midday draw will be set.
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Connecticut Evening Only drawings are 2 evening draws away from 40+/40+

If either drawings for Thursday or Friday evening do not have an LDR7 or LDR 4 then Saturday Evening drawing will be set.
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Quote: Originally posted by winsumloosesum on Feb 10, 2011
Georgia Combined draws 2 draws away from 40+/ 40+

If both the midday and evening draws today DO NOT have an LDR of 8 or 9 then Friday's Midday draw will be set.

Georgia could not wait. 7-6-5 (LDR 8) Midday today.

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