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Poker, Probability, and Physics

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Posted: February 17, 2011, 10:21 pm - IP Logged

I picked up a Discover Magazine today in a waiting room and found an article that might be of interest here.  The Blog pointed to here belongs to the object of the article, who is the husband of the author.  I especially like his response to the first comment! Smile 

http://discover.coverleaf.com/discovermagazine/201011?folio=58&pg60#pg60

The article itself is linked at the top of the Blog.  BTW, if you're persistant, you can blow it up to a readable type size!  Here's a teaser:

"Chess is like classical mechanics.

  Poker is like quantum mechanics.

  In poker there is no single right move.

  There is a probability distribution of right moves."

I'm not a poker player [YET] but I'm hoping there are some here!

--Jimmy4164

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    Posted: February 17, 2011, 10:49 pm - IP Logged

    In Games of Chance: You Can't Overlook: Slight of Hand!

    A recent show on Nova showed how a magician used one hand to distract the audience while performing the illusion with the other hand.

    Card Dealers use similar techniques.

    A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!


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      Posted: February 17, 2011, 11:17 pm - IP Logged

      In Games of Chance: You Can't Overlook: Slight of Hand!

      A recent show on Nova showed how a magician used one hand to distract the audience while performing the illusion with the other hand.

      Card Dealers use similar techniques.

      The casinos seem to have plenty of ways to thwart cheaters at their games, including large employees to show them the exits!  What recourse does a player have if they suspect a dealer is doing something like what you described above?

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        Posted: February 17, 2011, 11:29 pm - IP Logged

        The casinos seem to have plenty of ways to thwart cheaters at their games, including large employees to show them the exits!  What recourse does a player have if they suspect a dealer is doing something like what you described above?

        Don't Tip the Dealer! Thud

        A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!


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          Posted: February 17, 2011, 11:41 pm - IP Logged

          Don't worry about the dealers, worry about other players.  In poker the casinos take a small rake from the pot - meaning they take a small payment from each pot for running the game so it's in their best interest for everything to be on the up and up.  It's the other players you need to worry about cheating.


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            Posted: February 17, 2011, 11:45 pm - IP Logged

            I picked up a Discover Magazine today in a waiting room and found an article that might be of interest here.  The Blog pointed to here belongs to the object of the article, who is the husband of the author.  I especially like his response to the first comment! Smile 

            http://discover.coverleaf.com/discovermagazine/201011?folio=58&pg60#pg60

            The article itself is linked at the top of the Blog.  BTW, if you're persistant, you can blow it up to a readable type size!  Here's a teaser:

            "Chess is like classical mechanics.

              Poker is like quantum mechanics.

              In poker there is no single right move.

              There is a probability distribution of right moves."

            I'm not a poker player [YET] but I'm hoping there are some here!

            --Jimmy4164

            P.S.  Actually, my link was to the article itself, which is OK, but I talked about the Blog!

            http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2010/10/06/physicists-playing-poker/

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              Posted: February 18, 2011, 5:48 pm - IP Logged

              In Games of Chance: You Can't Overlook: Slight of Hand!

              A recent show on Nova showed how a magician used one hand to distract the audience while performing the illusion with the other hand.

              Card Dealers use similar techniques.

              AGREED, Vegas is a entertainment & magical mecca where the hand is hired to be faster then the eye. often amateur magicitans are employed because of their abilities to effectively deal with the cards,,,,,a second card can be dealt out of the shoe, with you looking at it, and you wouldn't have a clue, so just imahine the possibilities with a hand held deck.

              Have observed to a number of major fights booked at the MGM Garden, Las Vegas and this is what I learned that fits into the Vegas magic:                                                          the punch that knocks out the opponent is never the one he expects. - it's called misdirection

               

              Stay Alert-

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                Posted: February 18, 2011, 9:46 pm - IP Logged

                AGREED, Vegas is a entertainment & magical mecca where the hand is hired to be faster then the eye. often amateur magicitans are employed because of their abilities to effectively deal with the cards,,,,,a second card can be dealt out of the shoe, with you looking at it, and you wouldn't have a clue, so just imahine the possibilities with a hand held deck.

                Have observed to a number of major fights booked at the MGM Garden, Las Vegas and this is what I learned that fits into the Vegas magic:                                                          the punch that knocks out the opponent is never the one he expects. - it's called misdirection

                 

                Stay Alert-

                Eddessanight Sun Smiley

                So far, I haven't seen any references by the physicists to this aspect of the game.  I'm sure it's a valid concern, but maybe once you get into the "big leagues" there is enough scrutiny of the players from the sideleines, videocams and all, that it ceases to be the biggest concern.