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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Feb 25, 2011
Anyone, everyone
I posted a system that uses / wheels digits to build my lines to play. Over the years I have worked
out several methods of selecting digits that allows me to win more then I play. For the record, I win
between $500.00 to $1000.00 per year more then I spend. I play between 25 and 35 times a year
and play between 8 and 15 lines. I normally hit three or four 4 of 5's each year but have hit three in
one day. I win many 3 of 5's which pays $10.00 and 2 of 5's which pays $1.00. I have never claimed
to be rich or make a living playing the lottery. My methods require me to wait sometimes for weeks
between plays waiting for the correct time to play. If I wanted to play more agressive then I could
probably win more but I could also lose more. I wish I could win any time that I chose to play but that
is not the case. Jimmy wants me to show the exact method I use and It's not that simple. There is
no one bit of data but may different things that show that the RNG is about to come home to papa so
to speak. Below is a list from last nights drawing that shows all the possible 4 of 5's for that drawing
and the digits needed to produce them. This data -> 3230001000 shows the times each digit hit per
set. The first digit 3 in the line is the number of times digit 1 was in the set. The next digit 2 is the
times digit 2 is in the set and so on. You can see from the list that I have many different ways I could
have set my wheel using many different digit combinations and still hit a 4of5. Some of these will produce
less then 10 total lines using no filters.
Example for first line
01-13-17-22-33 3230001000 1237 <- digits needed for a 4 of 5
digit 1 hit three
digit 2 hit two
digit 3 hit three
digits 4-5-6 no shows
digit 7 hit one
digits 8-9-0 no shows
numbers______1234567890__digits needed
01 13 17 22 33 3230001000 1237
01 13 17 22 34 3221001000 12347
01 13 17 33 34 3041001000 1347
01 13 22 33 34 2241000000 1234
01 17 22 33 34 2231001000 12347
02 13 17 22 33 2330001000 1237
02 13 17 22 34 2321001000 12347
02 13 17 33 34 2141001000 12347
02 13 22 33 34 1341000000 1234
02 17 22 33 34 1331001000 12347
03 13 17 22 33 2240001000 1237
03 13 17 22 34 2231001000 12347
03 13 17 33 34 2051001000 1347
03 13 22 33 34 1251000000 1234
03 17 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
04 13 17 22 33 2231001000 12347
04 13 17 22 34 2222001000 12347
04 13 17 33 34 2042001000 1347
04 13 22 33 34 1242000000 1234
04 17 22 33 34 1232001000 12347
05 13 17 22 33 2230101000 12357
05 13 17 22 34 2221101000 123457
05 13 17 33 34 2041101000 13457
05 13 22 33 34 1241100000 12345
05 17 22 33 34 1231101000 123457
06 13 17 22 33 2230011000 12367
06 13 17 22 34 2221011000 123467
06 13 17 33 34 2041011000 13467
06 13 22 33 34 1241010000 12346
06 17 22 33 34 1231011000 123467
07 13 17 22 33 2230002000 1237
07 13 17 22 34 2221002000 12347
07 13 17 33 34 2041002000 1347
07 13 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
07 17 22 33 34 1231002000 12347
08 13 17 22 33 2230001100 12378
08 13 17 22 34 2221001100 123478
08 13 17 33 34 2041001100 13478
08 13 22 33 34 1241000100 12348
08 17 22 33 34 1231001100 123478
09 13 17 22 33 2230001010 12379
09 13 17 22 34 2221001010 123479
09 13 17 33 34 2041001010 13479
09 13 22 33 34 1241000010 12349
09 17 22 33 34 1231001010 123479
10 13 17 22 33 3230001001 12370
10 13 17 22 34 3221001001 123470
10 13 17 33 34 3041001001 13470
10 13 22 33 34 2241000001 12340
10 17 22 33 34 2231001001 123470
11 13 17 22 33 4230001000 1237
11 13 17 22 34 4221001000 12347
11 13 17 33 34 4041001000 1347
11 13 22 33 34 3241000000 1234
11 17 22 33 34 3231001000 12347
12 13 17 22 33 3330001000 1237
12 13 17 22 34 3321001000 12347
12 13 17 33 34 3141001000 12347
12 13 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
12 17 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
13 14 17 22 33 3231001000 12347
13 14 17 22 34 3222001000 12347
13 14 17 33 34 3042001000 1347
13 14 22 33 34 2242000000 1234
13 15 17 22 33 3230101000 12357
13 15 17 22 34 3221101000 123457
13 15 17 33 34 3041101000 13457
13 15 22 33 34 2241100000 12345
13 16 17 22 33 3230011000 12367
13 16 17 22 34 3221011000 123467
13 16 17 33 34 3041011000 13467
13 16 22 33 34 2241010000 12346
13 17 18 22 33 3230001100 12378
13 17 18 22 34 3221001100 123478
13 17 18 33 34 3041001100 13478
13 17 19 22 33 3230001010 12379
13 17 19 22 34 3221001010 123479
13 17 19 33 34 3041001010 13479
13 17 20 22 33 2330001001 12370
13 17 20 22 34 2321001001 123470
13 17 20 33 34 2141001001 123470
13 17 21 22 33 3330001000 1237
13 17 21 22 34 3321001000 12347
13 17 21 33 34 3141001000 12347
13 17 22 23 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 23 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 33 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 34 2322001000 12347
13 17 22 25 33 2330101000 12357
13 17 22 25 34 2321101000 123457
13 17 22 26 33 2330011000 12367
13 17 22 26 34 2321011000 123467
13 17 22 27 33 2330002000 1237
13 17 22 27 34 2321002000 12347
13 17 22 28 33 2330001100 12378
13 17 22 28 34 2321001100 123478
13 17 22 29 33 2330001010 12379
13 17 22 29 34 2321001010 123479
13 17 22 30 33 2240001001 12370
13 17 22 30 34 2231001001 123470
13 17 22 31 33 3240001000 1237
13 17 22 31 34 3231001000 12347
13 17 22 32 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 32 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 33 34 2241001000 12347 5 OF 5
13 17 22 33 35 2240101000 12357
13 17 22 33 36 2240011000 12367
13 17 22 33 37 2240002000 1237
13 17 22 33 38 2240001100 12378
13 17 22 33 39 2240001010 12379
13 17 22 34 35 2231101000 123457
13 17 22 34 36 2231011000 123467
13 17 22 34 37 2231002000 12347
13 17 22 34 38 2231001100 123478
13 17 22 34 39 2231001010 123479
13 17 23 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 24 33 34 2142001000 12347
13 17 25 33 34 2141101000 123457
13 17 26 33 34 2141011000 123467
13 17 27 33 34 2141002000 12347
13 17 28 33 34 2141001100 123478
13 17 29 33 34 2141001010 123479
13 17 30 33 34 2051001001 13470
13 17 31 33 34 3051001000 1347
13 17 32 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 33 34 35 2051101000 13457
13 17 33 34 36 2051011000 13467
13 17 33 34 37 2051002000 1347
13 17 33 34 38 2051001100 13478
13 17 33 34 39 2051001010 13479
13 18 22 33 34 2241000100 12348
13 19 22 33 34 2241000010 12349
13 20 22 33 34 1341000001 12340
13 21 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
13 22 23 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 24 33 34 1342000000 1234
13 22 25 33 34 1341100000 12345
13 22 26 33 34 1341010000 12346
13 22 27 33 34 1341001000 12347
13 22 28 33 34 1341000100 12348
13 22 29 33 34 1341000010 12349
13 22 30 33 34 1251000001 12340
13 22 31 33 34 2251000000 1234
13 22 32 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 33 34 35 1251100000 12345
13 22 33 34 36 1251010000 12346
13 22 33 34 37 1251001000 12347
13 22 33 34 38 1251000100 12348
13 22 33 34 39 1251000010 12349
14 17 22 33 34 2232001000 12347
15 17 22 33 34 2231101000 123457
16 17 22 33 34 2231011000 123467
17 18 22 33 34 2231001100 123478
17 19 22 33 34 2231001010 123479
17 20 22 33 34 1331001001 123470
17 21 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
17 22 23 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 24 33 34 1332001000 12347
17 22 25 33 34 1331101000 123457
17 22 26 33 34 1331011000 123467
17 22 27 33 34 1331002000 12347
17 22 28 33 34 1331001100 123478
17 22 29 33 34 1331001010 123479
17 22 30 33 34 1241001001 123470
17 22 31 33 34 2241001000 12347
17 22 32 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 33 34 35 1241101000 123457
17 22 33 34 36 1241011000 123467
17 22 33 34 37 1241002000 12347
17 22 33 34 38 1241001100 123478
17 22 33 34 39 1241001010 123479This is the digit system, My software allows me to click on the digits I want to wheel and click run. Notice
how many of these sets have digits 1-2-3 and many have 1-2-3-4 which would produced a 4 of 5. Some
of these will produce more then one.
RL
Hind site is wonderful isn't it?
Works every time, like magic!
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So much for honoring agreements. You apparently have decided to continue
dropping off your unrelated garbage in a Topic which I initiated.
Go ahead, be my guest.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 25, 2011
Hind site is wonderful isn't it?
Works every time, like magic!
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So much for honoring agreements. You apparently have decided to continue
dropping off your unrelated garbage in a Topic which I initiated.
Go ahead, be my guest.
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Very impressive RL. Any time you wish to share your ideas is fine with me. Please don't let some person dictate what you want to do. And please don't some person discourage you.
CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN
A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
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Quote: Originally posted by rcbbuckeye on Feb 25, 2011
Very impressive RL. Any time you wish to share your ideas is fine with me. Please don't let some person dictate what you want to do. And please don't some person discourage you.
rcbbuckeye
Don't be fooled into thinking this is easy, it's not. For my 5-39 game digits 1-2-3 all show togeather around
70% of the time.
#1. Try to Time plays to days when digits 1-2-3 hit, I think most can understand the first step.
#2. 73% of drawings for my pick 5 game contain 5 or 6 digits. I will choose 5 or 6 to play based
on digit shows/ totals compared to the expected calculated from entire matrix.
#3. If I chooes to play 5 digits and select digits 1-2-3 first then I only need 2 more digits selections
#4. If I choose to play 6 digits and select digits 1-2-3 first then I only need 3 more digit selections
#5. Digits = 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0
#6. I select 1-2-3 first and then must choose 2 or 3 of the remaining seven. 4-5-6-7-8-9-0
#7. selecting 2 of 7 gives odds of 1 in 21 for picking both correct.
#8. selecting 3 of 7 gives odds of 1 in 35 for picking three correct.
#9. Since I track digits in my database it makes for a good source of information. I look at many
things to help me make my final 2 or 3 digit selections from the remaining seven.
a. What is the percent of digits repeat on average
b. What is the percent of digits change on average
c. What percent of digits show more then once per set
d. I calculate these values from both the history and the matrix and then make a simple count
using different data sizes from my database to help me decide how well the draws are doing
when compaired to the expected selection from the matrix.
#10. Since I have the advantage of missing or selecting a incorrect digit and still hiting lower
prizes I don't need to be 100% correct in my choice.
#11. I then choose how many of each of the base digits I want to include in each set using steps
from above.
#12. I then select the approaite values and click run.
#13. If I get too many sets to play I may apply a few filters to reduce but if I have to use many filters
to reduce then I don't play.
List of tools I have built over the years that I use to help evaluate or help select digits
Bayesian predictors
Nerual networks
AI
Machine learning / pattern recognition
Pattern recoginiton
Bias search / recognition
The matrix Bible, A complete breakdown of all filters, digits and group values for my game.
I best like to play when all the data points to single high digit hits meaning that any of the digits
4-5-6-7-8-9-0 that show will occur only once per set.
I also like to play when the base digits 1-2-3 are shown to have a good chance of contributing to
2 of the five numbers drawn. example 21-33, 01-32 ect. Three base digits number sets are also highly
prized.
Some days I like to just take a big old guess at the final two or three. I have been using this method
for many years and have developed a very good nack for guessing and being correct by just looking
at the data in my database and making a few counts. I don't play every day unless the data or my
opinion of the data says it's a good day to play.
Jimmy is famous for not reading post or he would find the information that he thinks I have eluded
from posting. The exact method that I use is of no importance to players using another matrix but if
one takes the time to study the game they play they can gain some insight on how, what and when
to play.
If I find myself struggling to make selections I don't play. If I am not feeling good I don't play. Always
put yourself into a state of relaxation before playing. If you find yourself trying to make the data fit
some preconceived notion of what you think will hit then don't play. I think that most understand that
selecting digits shows and totals is essential and was posted to give another method of playing. Some
people are left hemispheric and some are right. When I take the test I always show 50/50. Not sure
if this helps or not but like to think it does. I use both disciplines and creativeness because the lottery
requires both.
RL
Jimmy
Your reply still shows your intent. If I took a poll how many people ever considered to look at the lottery
drawings from this perspective, what would be the results? If I can but give another perspective then I
have achived my goal.
RL
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Hind site? Is that a chair or a sofa?
Maybe you meant Hindsight which means realization of the possibilities after the occurrence.
JIMMY, HOMBRE, we all have those 'if I knew then what I know now moments!!!!' I had one this morning!
When I opened the shed, the left rear lawn tractor tire was FLAT.
If I'd have known that, I WOULDN'T HAVE OPENED THE SHED. That's Hindsight.
But with all my determination was I going to let it stop me?
Well........yeah. Determination is a good thing if you want beat your head against a brick wall.
Determination vs Random Event? The random event can win. I don't have to mow today.
Same with the lottery. I'd like to win TODAY. But if I don't, I was blindsided by a random event.
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Feb 26, 2011
Hind site? Is that a chair or a sofa?
Maybe you meant Hindsight which means realization of the possibilities after the occurrence.
JIMMY, HOMBRE, we all have those 'if I knew then what I know now moments!!!!' I had one this morning!
When I opened the shed, the left rear lawn tractor tire was FLAT.
If I'd have known that, I WOULDN'T HAVE OPENED THE SHED. That's Hindsight.
But with all my determination was I going to let it stop me?
Well........yeah. Determination is a good thing if you want beat your head against a brick wall.
Determination vs Random Event? The random event can win. I don't have to mow today.
Same with the lottery. I'd like to win TODAY. But if I don't, I was blindsided by a random event.
Good for you Gary! You finally found what you were looking for, a spelling mistake in one of my posts. Keep watching; you just might catch another one. And if you scrutinize my next post coming up shortly, you might even find a round off error in my arithmetic.
Good work!
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 26, 2011
Good for you Gary! You finally found what you were looking for, a spelling mistake in one of my posts. Keep watching; you just might catch another one. And if you scrutinize my next post coming up shortly, you might even find a round off error in my arithmetic.
Good work!
Eeryone, place your bets, Jimmy is about to explode with another set of statistics that will echo
through LP land. I just hope that he includes the data for 2of3's, 3of3's and not just the 4of5's
that has tipped his plate. Save yourself the time jimmy. Been there done that so before you waste
your time which is exactly what you are doing, take a deep breath and remember the one word that
I use so often -----> IF <------ . The idea here is to remove from the pool of selection. If one is trying
to make 5 selections from a pool of lets say 59 numbers or picking 5 digits from a pool of 10 and given
a few of these 10 choices are a bit easier to select and that no SP will ever do worse then a QP then
you should conclude that anything you come up with is static and useless. We know the math and are
selections are made in faith. We hope we pick the correct digits or numbers. I make my final selections
based on the belief that at the drawings will follow the matrix in population and distribution. I will never
post my exact methods and you have taken this as a way to attack me. I posted just what I said I would
post and I also hold back what I will hold back. I use to spend far more but never gained from doing so.
Playing digits works for me and just because you don't have any success using them means nothing.
I know the math and you will never post anything here concerning the odds that I have not already looked
at.
RL
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Feb 25, 2011
Anyone, everyone
I posted a system that uses / wheels digits to build my lines to play. Over the years I have worked
out several methods of selecting digits that allows me to win more then I play. For the record, I win
between $500.00 to $1000.00 per year more then I spend. I play between 25 and 35 times a year
and play between 8 and 15 lines. I normally hit three or four 4 of 5's each year but have hit three in
one day. I win many 3 of 5's which pays $10.00 and 2 of 5's which pays $1.00. I have never claimed
to be rich or make a living playing the lottery. My methods require me to wait sometimes for weeks
between plays waiting for the correct time to play. If I wanted to play more agressive then I could
probably win more but I could also lose more. I wish I could win any time that I chose to play but that
is not the case. Jimmy wants me to show the exact method I use and It's not that simple. There is
no one bit of data but may different things that show that the RNG is about to come home to papa so
to speak. Below is a list from last nights drawing that shows all the possible 4 of 5's for that drawing
and the digits needed to produce them. This data -> 3230001000 shows the times each digit hit per
set. The first digit 3 in the line is the number of times digit 1 was in the set. The next digit 2 is the
times digit 2 is in the set and so on. You can see from the list that I have many different ways I could
have set my wheel using many different digit combinations and still hit a 4of5. Some of these will produce
less then 10 total lines using no filters.
Example for first line
01-13-17-22-33 3230001000 1237 <- digits needed for a 4 of 5
digit 1 hit three
digit 2 hit two
digit 3 hit three
digits 4-5-6 no shows
digit 7 hit one
digits 8-9-0 no shows
numbers______1234567890__digits needed
01 13 17 22 33 3230001000 1237
01 13 17 22 34 3221001000 12347
01 13 17 33 34 3041001000 1347
01 13 22 33 34 2241000000 1234
01 17 22 33 34 2231001000 12347
02 13 17 22 33 2330001000 1237
02 13 17 22 34 2321001000 12347
02 13 17 33 34 2141001000 12347
02 13 22 33 34 1341000000 1234
02 17 22 33 34 1331001000 12347
03 13 17 22 33 2240001000 1237
03 13 17 22 34 2231001000 12347
03 13 17 33 34 2051001000 1347
03 13 22 33 34 1251000000 1234
03 17 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
04 13 17 22 33 2231001000 12347
04 13 17 22 34 2222001000 12347
04 13 17 33 34 2042001000 1347
04 13 22 33 34 1242000000 1234
04 17 22 33 34 1232001000 12347
05 13 17 22 33 2230101000 12357
05 13 17 22 34 2221101000 123457
05 13 17 33 34 2041101000 13457
05 13 22 33 34 1241100000 12345
05 17 22 33 34 1231101000 123457
06 13 17 22 33 2230011000 12367
06 13 17 22 34 2221011000 123467
06 13 17 33 34 2041011000 13467
06 13 22 33 34 1241010000 12346
06 17 22 33 34 1231011000 123467
07 13 17 22 33 2230002000 1237
07 13 17 22 34 2221002000 12347
07 13 17 33 34 2041002000 1347
07 13 22 33 34 1241001000 12347
07 17 22 33 34 1231002000 12347
08 13 17 22 33 2230001100 12378
08 13 17 22 34 2221001100 123478
08 13 17 33 34 2041001100 13478
08 13 22 33 34 1241000100 12348
08 17 22 33 34 1231001100 123478
09 13 17 22 33 2230001010 12379
09 13 17 22 34 2221001010 123479
09 13 17 33 34 2041001010 13479
09 13 22 33 34 1241000010 12349
09 17 22 33 34 1231001010 123479
10 13 17 22 33 3230001001 12370
10 13 17 22 34 3221001001 123470
10 13 17 33 34 3041001001 13470
10 13 22 33 34 2241000001 12340
10 17 22 33 34 2231001001 123470
11 13 17 22 33 4230001000 1237
11 13 17 22 34 4221001000 12347
11 13 17 33 34 4041001000 1347
11 13 22 33 34 3241000000 1234
11 17 22 33 34 3231001000 12347
12 13 17 22 33 3330001000 1237
12 13 17 22 34 3321001000 12347
12 13 17 33 34 3141001000 12347
12 13 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
12 17 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
13 14 17 22 33 3231001000 12347
13 14 17 22 34 3222001000 12347
13 14 17 33 34 3042001000 1347
13 14 22 33 34 2242000000 1234
13 15 17 22 33 3230101000 12357
13 15 17 22 34 3221101000 123457
13 15 17 33 34 3041101000 13457
13 15 22 33 34 2241100000 12345
13 16 17 22 33 3230011000 12367
13 16 17 22 34 3221011000 123467
13 16 17 33 34 3041011000 13467
13 16 22 33 34 2241010000 12346
13 17 18 22 33 3230001100 12378
13 17 18 22 34 3221001100 123478
13 17 18 33 34 3041001100 13478
13 17 19 22 33 3230001010 12379
13 17 19 22 34 3221001010 123479
13 17 19 33 34 3041001010 13479
13 17 20 22 33 2330001001 12370
13 17 20 22 34 2321001001 123470
13 17 20 33 34 2141001001 123470
13 17 21 22 33 3330001000 1237
13 17 21 22 34 3321001000 12347
13 17 21 33 34 3141001000 12347
13 17 22 23 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 23 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 33 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 24 34 2322001000 12347
13 17 22 25 33 2330101000 12357
13 17 22 25 34 2321101000 123457
13 17 22 26 33 2330011000 12367
13 17 22 26 34 2321011000 123467
13 17 22 27 33 2330002000 1237
13 17 22 27 34 2321002000 12347
13 17 22 28 33 2330001100 12378
13 17 22 28 34 2321001100 123478
13 17 22 29 33 2330001010 12379
13 17 22 29 34 2321001010 123479
13 17 22 30 33 2240001001 12370
13 17 22 30 34 2231001001 123470
13 17 22 31 33 3240001000 1237
13 17 22 31 34 3231001000 12347
13 17 22 32 33 2340001000 1237
13 17 22 32 34 2331001000 12347
13 17 22 33 34 2241001000 12347 5 OF 5
13 17 22 33 35 2240101000 12357
13 17 22 33 36 2240011000 12367
13 17 22 33 37 2240002000 1237
13 17 22 33 38 2240001100 12378
13 17 22 33 39 2240001010 12379
13 17 22 34 35 2231101000 123457
13 17 22 34 36 2231011000 123467
13 17 22 34 37 2231002000 12347
13 17 22 34 38 2231001100 123478
13 17 22 34 39 2231001010 123479
13 17 23 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 24 33 34 2142001000 12347
13 17 25 33 34 2141101000 123457
13 17 26 33 34 2141011000 123467
13 17 27 33 34 2141002000 12347
13 17 28 33 34 2141001100 123478
13 17 29 33 34 2141001010 123479
13 17 30 33 34 2051001001 13470
13 17 31 33 34 3051001000 1347
13 17 32 33 34 2151001000 12347
13 17 33 34 35 2051101000 13457
13 17 33 34 36 2051011000 13467
13 17 33 34 37 2051002000 1347
13 17 33 34 38 2051001100 13478
13 17 33 34 39 2051001010 13479
13 18 22 33 34 2241000100 12348
13 19 22 33 34 2241000010 12349
13 20 22 33 34 1341000001 12340
13 21 22 33 34 2341000000 1234
13 22 23 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 24 33 34 1342000000 1234
13 22 25 33 34 1341100000 12345
13 22 26 33 34 1341010000 12346
13 22 27 33 34 1341001000 12347
13 22 28 33 34 1341000100 12348
13 22 29 33 34 1341000010 12349
13 22 30 33 34 1251000001 12340
13 22 31 33 34 2251000000 1234
13 22 32 33 34 1351000000 1234
13 22 33 34 35 1251100000 12345
13 22 33 34 36 1251010000 12346
13 22 33 34 37 1251001000 12347
13 22 33 34 38 1251000100 12348
13 22 33 34 39 1251000010 12349
14 17 22 33 34 2232001000 12347
15 17 22 33 34 2231101000 123457
16 17 22 33 34 2231011000 123467
17 18 22 33 34 2231001100 123478
17 19 22 33 34 2231001010 123479
17 20 22 33 34 1331001001 123470
17 21 22 33 34 2331001000 12347
17 22 23 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 24 33 34 1332001000 12347
17 22 25 33 34 1331101000 123457
17 22 26 33 34 1331011000 123467
17 22 27 33 34 1331002000 12347
17 22 28 33 34 1331001100 123478
17 22 29 33 34 1331001010 123479
17 22 30 33 34 1241001001 123470
17 22 31 33 34 2241001000 12347
17 22 32 33 34 1341001000 12347
17 22 33 34 35 1241101000 123457
17 22 33 34 36 1241011000 123467
17 22 33 34 37 1241002000 12347
17 22 33 34 38 1241001100 123478
17 22 33 34 39 1241001010 123479This is the digit system, My software allows me to click on the digits I want to wheel and click run. Notice
how many of these sets have digits 1-2-3 and many have 1-2-3-4 which would produced a 4 of 5. Some
of these will produce more then one.
RL
RL-RANDOMLOGIC,
(From your more recent posts:)
"I use to spend far more but never gained from doing so."
So your system is not scalable. Too bad.
"Playing digits works for me and just because you don't have any success using them means nothing."
I play QuickPicks.
--------------------Referring to the quoted post above-------------------
Finally, RL-RANDOMLOGIC has given us some numbers we can work with.
He said, "For the record, I win between $500.00 to $1000.00 per year more then I spend. I play between 25 and 35 times a year and play between 8 and 15 lines."
I've taken the liberty of averaging and rounding off the high and low yearly estimates:
#Plays = (25 + 35) / 2 = 30
#Lines / Play = (8 + 15) / 2 = 12
$Spent = Plays * (Lines/Play) = 30 * 12 = $360 / Year
$Won = $Spent + $(500+1000)/2 = $360 + $750 = $1110 / Year
ROI = Return On Investment = ($Won / $Spent) = 1110 / 360 = 3 / 1 (Rounded)
This is very impressive indeed. $3 won for every $1 spent!
Back in May, 2010(1), RL told us he won $25,000 after taxes (in 1999), and in June, 2010(2) he told us he won $37,000 before taxes at an unspecified time. Let's assume these two reports are for one and the same win of $25,000 after taxes. (BTW, this puts him in the 32% tax bracket.) Since most people reading this are pretty good with numbers, I'm guessing you can see that we have a problem here! If RL is only spending $360 per year and winning $1110 per year, he would have needed at least 23 years of play in Missouri to account for this $25K. Since the MO lottery has been around since 1986, and he claims to have played for many years, this is possible, but it would require RL to have won little or nothing other than the $25K hit. But that was supposedly in 1999, and he claims to make most of his money from the minor prizes!
So, the bottom line is, RL-RANDOMLOGIC's winnings reports JUST DON'T ADD UP!On a more general note - does it make sense to you that someone who claims they want to help as many people as possible by building homeless shelters and other good works, if they really had a system of lottery play that netted them $3 for every $1 they spent, would NOT collaborate with a reliable money management expert and figure out a way to make more than $750 per year? Do you REALLY believe that?
If RL's $37K before taxes and $25K after taxes are two distinct hits, think about the implications of THAT in light of the above.
Another thing to think about is the fact that RL has hinted on several occasions that his system works because of anomalies in the Missouri computerized Lotto system. But yet, if we read what he said back in May of last year(3), he seems to believe the opposite. Go figure.
Finally, in his post above, grinding out the digit details of the results of the previous day's drawing, are you really convinced when he looks back at a drawing that's already occured and asks, "Note how easily my settings COULD have matched this." (This is a paraphrase.)
So what is the REAL TRUTH here?
Garyo1954: Did you find any spelling mistakes or round-off errors in this post? Let me know if you do. Thanks.(1) https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/214099/1661732
(2) https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/216196/1688429
(3) https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/214856/1663662P.S. If RL-RANDOMLOGIC replies to this and seems to be convincing you that his conflicting statements over time really are not conflicting, and that my observations above are all wrong, run this video again, and think about it:
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Jimbo
For the record the amount was $36,764.70. 28% feds and 4% state. This winning is not
included in my figures because you posted that unless a person wins a jackpot then they
will never win in the long run. Back in the days of the 5-30 it was nothing to win a
4 of 5 a couple times a month and if I remember correctly it payed $100.00. A 3 of 5
payed $10.00 and a 2 of 5 paid nothing.
When I give my figures for winning they are for the current game which has been running
since 08/2008. Before that Show Me cash was a 5-44 game which paid $750.00 for a 4 of 5.
So your system is not scalable. Too bad.
I have explained this many times that one of the most important reasons for winning is
to wait on the draw. Playing day to day would be a losing proposition, one I avoid like
the plague.
This part would be very close for the last year. I had a few months which winners fell off
but the problem was in the bayesian predictor which I quit using and my winnings came back.
#Plays = (25 + 35) / 2 = 30
#Lines / Play = (8 + 15) / 2 = 12
$Spent = Plays * (Lines/Play) = 30 * 12 = $360 / Year
$Won = $Spent + $(500+1000)/2 = $360 + $750 = $1110 / Year
ROI = Return On Investment = ($Won / $Spent) = 1110 / 360 = 3 / 1 (Rounded)
Take out the $25.000 cash which is the same win as the $36,764.70 before taxes and then rerun
the figures. I think they would be a little low but the ROI would still fall very close. Some
of my best years I played closer to $1000.00 per year but was a different game then.
The figure do add up.
Finally, in his post above, grinding out the digit details of the results of the previous day's
drawing, are you really convinced when he looks back at a drawing that's already occured and asks,
"Note how easily my settings COULD have matched this." (This is a paraphrase.)
The reason this example was given was to show that the digits selected are a little forgiving
when it comes to selection. I played on paper yesterday and chose digits 1-2-3-5-6-8-0 to play
Here are the sets that I could have won a 4 of 5 using thees digits even when 2-3-5-6-8 showed
05 06 10 28 33 1120110101 1235680
05 06 10 28 35 1110210101 1235680
06 10 28 33 35 1130110101 1235680
I added the digit 0 to my list at the last minute and so my best picks were 1-2-3-5-6-8
01 05 06 28 33 1120110100 123568
01 05 06 28 35 1110210100 123568
01 06 28 33 35 1130110100 123568
05 06 11 28 33 2120110100 123568
05 06 11 28 35 2110210100 123568
05 06 12 28 33 1220110100 123568
05 06 12 28 35 1210210100 123568
05 06 13 28 33 1130110100 123568
05 06 13 28 35 1120210100 123568
05 06 16 28 33 1120120100 123568
05 06 16 28 35 1110220100 123568
plus many, more 4 of 5's were possible.
winning set
05 06 28 33 35 0130210100 23568 5 OF 5
I sent these picks to another person before the draw so I am not making this up as I know you
will be thinking.
You can see from this list I had all the digits that hit plus 1 and 0 which did not hit but
even with these incorrect digits I would have still been in the running for a 4 of 5 and many
3 of 5 hits.
This is a average day that I don't play. I was unsure of digit 0 but I did think that digit 1
would hit. Another tip I give many people is that when one of the base digits misses then it
is very likely that several others will follow. Wait the game out until 1-2-3 start a long run
of hits before playing again. It is not uncommon for 1-2-3 to hit over 10 drawings in a row for
my 5-39 game.
To those that are somehow effected by my spelling I would like to say in my defence that I have
been dyslexic from my youth. I have no phonic capibilities. Every word I use I have memeorized
as I cannot sound out a word for the correct spelling. This is also the reason that I use simple
text whenever I post. I can however understand anything one wishes to write.
RL -
Interesting set of posts RL. Thanks.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 26, 2011
RL-RANDOMLOGIC,
(From your more recent posts:)
"I use to spend far more but never gained from doing so."
So your system is not scalable. Too bad.
"Playing digits works for me and just because you don't have any success using them means nothing."
I play QuickPicks.
--------------------Referring to the quoted post above-------------------
Finally, RL-RANDOMLOGIC has given us some numbers we can work with.
He said, "For the record, I win between $500.00 to $1000.00 per year more then I spend. I play between 25 and 35 times a year and play between 8 and 15 lines."
I've taken the liberty of averaging and rounding off the high and low yearly estimates:
#Plays = (25 + 35) / 2 = 30
#Lines / Play = (8 + 15) / 2 = 12
$Spent = Plays * (Lines/Play) = 30 * 12 = $360 / Year
$Won = $Spent + $(500+1000)/2 = $360 + $750 = $1110 / Year
ROI = Return On Investment = ($Won / $Spent) = 1110 / 360 = 3 / 1 (Rounded)
This is very impressive indeed. $3 won for every $1 spent!
Back in May, 2010(1), RL told us he won $25,000 after taxes (in 1999), and in June, 2010(2) he told us he won $37,000 before taxes at an unspecified time. Let's assume these two reports are for one and the same win of $25,000 after taxes. (BTW, this puts him in the 32% tax bracket.) Since most people reading this are pretty good with numbers, I'm guessing you can see that we have a problem here! If RL is only spending $360 per year and winning $1110 per year, he would have needed at least 23 years of play in Missouri to account for this $25K. Since the MO lottery has been around since 1986, and he claims to have played for many years, this is possible, but it would require RL to have won little or nothing other than the $25K hit. But that was supposedly in 1999, and he claims to make most of his money from the minor prizes!
So, the bottom line is, RL-RANDOMLOGIC's winnings reports JUST DON'T ADD UP!On a more general note - does it make sense to you that someone who claims they want to help as many people as possible by building homeless shelters and other good works, if they really had a system of lottery play that netted them $3 for every $1 they spent, would NOT collaborate with a reliable money management expert and figure out a way to make more than $750 per year? Do you REALLY believe that?
If RL's $37K before taxes and $25K after taxes are two distinct hits, think about the implications of THAT in light of the above.
Another thing to think about is the fact that RL has hinted on several occasions that his system works because of anomalies in the Missouri computerized Lotto system. But yet, if we read what he said back in May of last year(3), he seems to believe the opposite. Go figure.
Finally, in his post above, grinding out the digit details of the results of the previous day's drawing, are you really convinced when he looks back at a drawing that's already occured and asks, "Note how easily my settings COULD have matched this." (This is a paraphrase.)
So what is the REAL TRUTH here?
Garyo1954: Did you find any spelling mistakes or round-off errors in this post? Let me know if you do. Thanks.(1) https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/214099/1661732
(2) https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/216196/1688429
(3) https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/214856/1663662P.S. If RL-RANDOMLOGIC replies to this and seems to be convincing you that his conflicting statements over time really are not conflicting, and that my observations above are all wrong, run this video again, and think about it:
Very simply....
You refuse to stop attacking RL because tearing someone down makes you feel superior.
In reality, you are a very inferior person.
This is my one and only post to you, to try to show others what you are really about.
CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN
A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)
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Some of these threads could actually be pretty good if it weren't for his attacks.
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Jim! Jimmy! Jimbo! Duddddddddde!
People gonna think you be hating on me now! I can't help I was born stupid! Hind site. Hindsight. No big deal, just funny if you think about it. I make enough mistakes to fill an encyclopedia. But don't underestimate me, as soon as I've done the stupidest thing you can imagine, I'll do something stupider just to prove you're wrong!
Would like to tell you how I come up with the megaplier 4 last night but my dog is eating my ham and egg croissant. It's an old secret family formula me and the neighbor lady put together last night.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimmy4164 on Feb 21, 2011
This morning, while reading over my recent posts and the responses they have elicited, I came to the decision that it is a futile endeavor. Why? Because after doing a little research, I realize that the reason for much of the strife here over the issue of randomness goes much deeper than the lottery. It is a fundamental difference in philosophy between those who abhor what I post here and myself. My opponents have a much more deterministic view of the world than I do. For example, RL-RANDOMLOGIC has read the Bible at least 40 times:
https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/222942/1844691
I have only read what was necessary to satisfy course requirements, most memorably, The Book of Ecclesiastes, which I enjoyed. Religion for me provides perspective for the study of philosophy, sociology, and psychology. Here are a couple of references with excerpts that help to explain why I have decided to stop "preaching!"
Randomness vs Determinism
http://pjmazumdar.wordpress.com/2010/01/15/randomness-vs-determinism/
"Determinism would seem to be seriously challenged by quantum theory, which has proved randomness in as far as quantum events are concerned. This is however rejected by determinative thinkers who hold that determinism still holds at the macroscopic level. Thus a determinism adherent would hold for example that if we could have a sort of supercomputer, he would be able to predict every bubble in a wave or every toss of a coin. So a determinism adherent would say that in a macroscopic case, say a billiard ball hitting the side of the table and bouncing back, we could predict exactly by knowing the angle at which the ball hits the table and its initial velocity, the resultant angle and velocity after hitting the table.
"But is this so? In fact, this is not really true and randomness still enters the picture. The path of the ball is not in fact totally predictable but has random fluctuations in its path, but these fluctuations are of a quantum proportion and therefore are not measured in macroscopic measurements."
Chance
http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/chance.html
"The core idea of chance and indeterminism is closely related to the idea of causality. Indeterminism for some is simply an event without a cause, an uncaused cause or causa sui that starts a new causal chain. If we admit some uncaused causes, we can have an adequate causality without the physical necessity of strict determinism - which implies complete predictability of events and only one possible future."
RL-RANDOMLOGIC's chances of convincing me that his Base-Ten-Digits Numerological System gives him an edge in the lottery are about as good as someone convincing a devout Catholic that they have irrefutable evidence that Gabriel was an apprentice carpenter to Joseph of Nazareth who was dismissed shortly after Joseph's wife became pregnant.
It's futile. We must agree to disagree.
--Jimmy4164
P.S. I hope the links above provide good sources for further investigation of these issues.
To Whom It May Concern,
Jimmy keeps attacking! How quickly you forget. If you start at the top of this Topic, which I initiated, you will see that I was trying to remove myself from this futile debate with RL-RANDOMLOGIC. It's too much like debating evolution. The 10,000 year old earth types are not content to go about their business with their beliefs, they feel compelled to attack the scientists who present an abundance of evidence to the contrary. The bible thumpers smile and feel satisfied and proud to proclaim they "ain't related to no monkey," leaving the scientists frustrated and often in legal battles with their children's school districts, or if they're teachers, fighting for their jobs.
If you want to know the truth of what has transpired in this thread, you will reread it from the top. If you do, I think you will see that I didn't start again aggressively going after RL-RANDOMLOGIC until he reneged on his promise to stay out of my business. He and his 2 friends have hijacked the Topic. Don't take my word for this - go ahead, read it again. It's not that long.
I see garyo1954 just said, "...as soon as I've done the stupidest thing you can imagine, I'll do something stupider just to prove you're wrong!," and he did just that, again!
If you are satisfied when RL-RANDOMLOGIC does a workout for his system the day after a draw, as he did here in one of his latest posts, and feel no need to request that he do one for the next day, even if he doesn't plan on betting, you are a fool!. If he is able to analyse a draw after the fact without revealing the proprietary aspects of his selection process, there is no reason why he can't do it for the next day.
Here, again, I will attempt to end this exchange by repeating what I wrote above in this thread:
"In the meantime, because the mathematics to theoretically prove or disprove the efficacy of any number selection system for lotteries is not a reasonable goal for most of us here, a computer simulation or a backtest is the only approach that makes any sense. Consequently, until you are prepared to demonstrate your system in this way, it would really make me happy if you would take the thousands of dollars you've had the good fortune to win, parlay it, and leave those interested free to examine some interesting Monte Carlo Software techniques that I would like to introduce which could prove useful not only in understanding the lottery, but other more general areas where stochastic processes exist.
"You are free to explore your interests in other Topics here, and unless you are mounting attacks on me, either directly, or through innuendo, I will feel no need to interrupt you."
--Jimmy4164
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Quote: Originally posted by RL-RANDOMLOGIC on Feb 26, 2011
Jimbo
For the record the amount was $36,764.70. 28% feds and 4% state. This winning is not
included in my figures because you posted that unless a person wins a jackpot then they
will never win in the long run. Back in the days of the 5-30 it was nothing to win a
4 of 5 a couple times a month and if I remember correctly it payed $100.00. A 3 of 5
payed $10.00 and a 2 of 5 paid nothing.
When I give my figures for winning they are for the current game which has been running
since 08/2008. Before that Show Me cash was a 5-44 game which paid $750.00 for a 4 of 5.
So your system is not scalable. Too bad.
I have explained this many times that one of the most important reasons for winning is
to wait on the draw. Playing day to day would be a losing proposition, one I avoid like
the plague.
This part would be very close for the last year. I had a few months which winners fell off
but the problem was in the bayesian predictor which I quit using and my winnings came back.
#Plays = (25 + 35) / 2 = 30
#Lines / Play = (8 + 15) / 2 = 12
$Spent = Plays * (Lines/Play) = 30 * 12 = $360 / Year
$Won = $Spent + $(500+1000)/2 = $360 + $750 = $1110 / Year
ROI = Return On Investment = ($Won / $Spent) = 1110 / 360 = 3 / 1 (Rounded)
Take out the $25.000 cash which is the same win as the $36,764.70 before taxes and then rerun
the figures. I think they would be a little low but the ROI would still fall very close. Some
of my best years I played closer to $1000.00 per year but was a different game then.
The figure do add up.
Finally, in his post above, grinding out the digit details of the results of the previous day's
drawing, are you really convinced when he looks back at a drawing that's already occured and asks,
"Note how easily my settings COULD have matched this." (This is a paraphrase.)
The reason this example was given was to show that the digits selected are a little forgiving
when it comes to selection. I played on paper yesterday and chose digits 1-2-3-5-6-8-0 to play
Here are the sets that I could have won a 4 of 5 using thees digits even when 2-3-5-6-8 showed
05 06 10 28 33 1120110101 1235680
05 06 10 28 35 1110210101 1235680
06 10 28 33 35 1130110101 1235680
I added the digit 0 to my list at the last minute and so my best picks were 1-2-3-5-6-8
01 05 06 28 33 1120110100 123568
01 05 06 28 35 1110210100 123568
01 06 28 33 35 1130110100 123568
05 06 11 28 33 2120110100 123568
05 06 11 28 35 2110210100 123568
05 06 12 28 33 1220110100 123568
05 06 12 28 35 1210210100 123568
05 06 13 28 33 1130110100 123568
05 06 13 28 35 1120210100 123568
05 06 16 28 33 1120120100 123568
05 06 16 28 35 1110220100 123568
plus many, more 4 of 5's were possible.
winning set
05 06 28 33 35 0130210100 23568 5 OF 5
I sent these picks to another person before the draw so I am not making this up as I know you
will be thinking.
You can see from this list I had all the digits that hit plus 1 and 0 which did not hit but
even with these incorrect digits I would have still been in the running for a 4 of 5 and many
3 of 5 hits.
This is a average day that I don't play. I was unsure of digit 0 but I did think that digit 1
would hit. Another tip I give many people is that when one of the base digits misses then it
is very likely that several others will follow. Wait the game out until 1-2-3 start a long run
of hits before playing again. It is not uncommon for 1-2-3 to hit over 10 drawings in a row for
my 5-39 game.
To those that are somehow effected by my spelling I would like to say in my defence that I have
been dyslexic from my youth. I have no phonic capibilities. Every word I use I have memeorized
as I cannot sound out a word for the correct spelling. This is also the reason that I use simple
text whenever I post. I can however understand anything one wishes to write.
RL"Playing day to day would be a losing proposition, one I avoid like the plague."
That's really bad news for Jimmy because all his statistics are based on playing the same number the same way everyday; sometimes for years.
"If you play $1 on a straight daily, every 2 or 3 years you'll hit for $500." and "My backtests of 33+ years of the PA [000-999] lottery resulted in an average straight hit rate of 1 per 1000 draws, and this was true applying various TTT schemes as well as "systems" like betting on "yesterday's winner"."
I've never spoke with anyone playing the same number every day for 2 or 3 years, but while it's possible they would continue to play to recoup some of their losses, suggesting someone would play the same number every day for over 33 years is incredibly stupid. When I read Jimmy's statistics based on his mind boggling suggestion that a group of Challenge players would wager $3168 two or four times a week for a year, it was easy to see his statistics have no credibility and are worthless.
"To those that are somehow effected by my spelling I would like to say in my defence that I have
been dyslexic from my youth. I have no phonic capibilities."I've had no problems understanding your posts and it doesn't look like the others that have actually played pick-5 games have a problem either. Playing Ohio Rolling Cash 5 is one of the things I miss after moving to Kentucky.