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sully16's avatar - sharan
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I have alot of people asking me how I pick my numbers, first you have to learn how to track them.

I like to play sums and root sums , I feel collecting data is important.

I like to use paper and pencils, it's portable and I think better writing then I do typing, its up to you.

I keep all my data sorted by month on a legal pad

example from my state Michigan

feb midday sum root  evening sum root

2/1 972      18     9       933       15    6

2/2 470       11    2       132          6    6

and so on down the page.

the sum is the total of the number 9+7+2 = 18

the root 1+8 = 9

on a seperate sheet of paper I number on column 1 - 27 thats how many sums there are ,

then I lable on the same sheet 1-9 thats how many roots there are

everytime a number is drawn I make a line  in the sum and the root

short example

13-1 1                                    4-1 1

14             (sum)                     5           (root)

15                                           6

 

15                                           6

this helps me track whats been out and what may be due

first learning to keep track is important

format it your way

more to come later...theres alot to learn,

there is also tools here that can help you and I'll explain how to use them.

First things first, start collecting your data.

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    Posted: February 23, 2011, 9:47 am - IP Logged

    Sully....I have been following your numbers since I became a LP member and allow me to be the first student in your class...

    Waiting for the next post.

     

    tip / South Carolina

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      I have alot of people asking me how I pick my numbers, first you have to learn how to track them.

      I like to play sums and root sums , I feel collecting data is important.

      I like to use paper and pencils, it's portable and I think better writing then I do typing, its up to you.

      I keep all my data sorted by month on a legal pad

      example from my state Michigan

      feb midday sum root  evening sum root

      2/1 972      18     9       933       15    6

      2/2 470       11    2       132          6    6

      and so on down the page.

      the sum is the total of the number 9+7+2 = 18

      the root 1+8 = 9

      on a seperate sheet of paper I number on column 1 - 27 thats how many sums there are ,

      then I lable on the same sheet 1-9 thats how many roots there are

      everytime a number is drawn I make a line  in the sum and the root

      short example

      13-1 1                                    4-1 1

      14             (sum)                     5           (root)

      15                                           6

       

      15                                           6

      this helps me track whats been out and what may be due

      first learning to keep track is important

      format it your way

      more to come later...theres alot to learn,

      there is also tools here that can help you and I'll explain how to use them.

      First things first, start collecting your data.

      Good call ! i use paper and pencil too  , data on spread sheet or excel is a good way also am learning . Thumbs Up

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        Good call ! i use paper and pencil too  , data on spread sheet or excel is a good way also am learning . Thumbs Up

        As for me, I like Excel spreadsheets to track numbers.  I color-code cells which I think makes it easier to spot trends.

        Not that pencil and paper is a bad thing, but for me, I like a spreadheet.  Spreadsheets will also do the math for you.  I've also been known to do a hybrid type of thing... I've printed out the spreadsheet and worked off of that with a pencil!!  Either way, nothing I've done tracking numbers has made me a millionaire.......

        About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

          Jani Norman's avatar - fiftyways
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          Posted: February 23, 2011, 10:10 am - IP Logged

          I have alot of people asking me how I pick my numbers, first you have to learn how to track them.

          I like to play sums and root sums , I feel collecting data is important.

          I like to use paper and pencils, it's portable and I think better writing then I do typing, its up to you.

          I keep all my data sorted by month on a legal pad

          example from my state Michigan

          feb midday sum root  evening sum root

          2/1 972      18     9       933       15    6

          2/2 470       11    2       132          6    6

          and so on down the page.

          the sum is the total of the number 9+7+2 = 18

          the root 1+8 = 9

          on a seperate sheet of paper I number on column 1 - 27 thats how many sums there are ,

          then I lable on the same sheet 1-9 thats how many roots there are

          everytime a number is drawn I make a line  in the sum and the root

          short example

          13-1 1                                    4-1 1

          14             (sum)                     5           (root)

          15                                           6

           

          15                                           6

          this helps me track whats been out and what may be due

          first learning to keep track is important

          format it your way

          more to come later...theres alot to learn,

          there is also tools here that can help you and I'll explain how to use them.

          First things first, start collecting your data.

          This is such a good idea for a beginner and I love it for a new learner..

          Hurray!                                                            Hurray!                                            Hurray!

          keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!

           

           

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            sully16's avatar - sharan
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            Thank everyone.

            Lesson 2  The facts

            There are 1000 numbers if played straight

            10-triples

            270 doubles

            720-singles

            now lets box them

            10-triples

            90-boxed doubles

            120-boxed singles

            thats 220 numbers, you just narrowed the playing field by almost 77 percent.

            next I'm going to give you the sums in boxed form

            I refer to this everytime I pick numbers.    next page

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              sum

              0= 000

              1=001

              2=002 011

              3=003 012 111

              4=004 013 022 112

              5=005 014 023 113 122

              6=006 015 024 033 114 123 222

              7=007 016 025 034 115 124 133 223

              8=008 017 026 035 044 116 125 134 224 233

              9=009 018 027 036 045 117 126 135 144 225 234 333

              10=019 028 037 046 055 118 127 136 145 226 235 244 334

              11=029 038 047 056 119 128 137 146 155 227 236 245 335 344

              12=039 048 057 066 129 138 147 156 228 237 246 255 336 345 444

              13=049 058 067 139 148 157 166 229 238 247 256 337 346 355 445

              14=059 068 077 149 158 167 239 248 257 266 338 347 356 446 455

              15=069 078 159 168 177 249 258 267 339 348 357 366 447 456 555

              16=079 088 169 178 259 268 277 349 358 367 448 457 466 556

              17=089 179 188 269 278 359 368 377 449 458 467 557 566

              18=099 189 279 288 369 378 459 468 477 558 567 666

              19=199 289 379 388 469 478 559 568 577 667

              20=299 389 479 488 569 578 668 677

              21=399 489 579 588 669 678 777

              22=499 589 679 688 778

              23=599 689 779 788

              24=699 789 888

              25=799 889

              26=899

              27=999

              you have all the sums in boxed form with the triples, if you turn this chart horizontal , you have the bell curve. more on that next, I will show you comparative data, I am a slow typer.

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                sully16's avatar - sharan
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                Lesson 3 statistics

                In a random distribution pool 99.97 percent of the numbers have to fall in the bell curve.

                Using Mich. as an example there are appro. 728 drawings mid and eve.

                roughly 364 odd/even sums give it plus or minus  15

                this is how the sums should fall  over here is data from 2009/2008 I haven't had a chance to do 2010 yet.

                0-3                                                                             0-    2        0

                1-3                                                                             1-    3        2

                2-6                                                                             2-    4        8

                3-9                                                                             3-    8        6

                4-12                                                                           4-    14      15

                5-15                                                                           5-    11      14

                6-21                                                                           6-    20      21

                7-24                                                                           7-    22      24

                8-35                                                                           8-    40      29

                9-41                                                                           9-    52      49

                10-44                                                                         10-   46      44

                11-47                                                                         11-   48      67

                12-52                                                                         12-   61      52

                13-52                                                                         13-   58      59

                14-52                                                                         14-   58      58

                15-52                                                                         15-   57      50

                16-47                                                                         16-   37      41

                17-44                                                                         17-   41      46

                18-41                                                                         18-   32      28

                19-35                                                                         19-   30      19

                20-24                                                                         20-    27     30

                21-21                                                                         21-    14     21

                22-15                                                                         22-    17     16

                23-12                                                                         23-      7     13

                24-9                                                                           24-     11     10

                25-6                                                                           25-       6      4

                26-3                                                                           26-       2      2

                27-3                                                                            27-      0       0

                Do you see how close the numbers from 2009/2008 are to the projection model?

                This tells me it's honest , it tells me a few other things also, more on that later , lets let this sink in .

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                  In the above charts we see how close the numbers that actually fell are to the projection model.

                  we know michigan plays an honest game.

                  we also now know sum 13 will fall way more then sum 2.

                  In a RANDOM DISTRIBUTION You HAVE To HAVE THE BELL CURVE.

                  We know there are more numbers adding up to 13 than 2 .

                  I will tie it all together I promise.

                  I have an Associates degree in Quality Control, SPC OR Statistcal process control is what I did for 17 years until I got an exciting job in a market place.

                  anyway, this process is used in manufactoring to monitor specs on things like pistons ,brake parts , everything.

                  so I know if 002 falls 47 times somethings wrong.

                  you don't have to do the extensive tracking that I do , I just want you to understand the why.

                  I pick my numbers by the sums, most of the sums I play will be between 5 and 22 the rest I ignore, just narrowed my playing field again.

                  If I miss 002, no big deal I get most of my best hits on sums 10 thru 20 .

                  be back later with more, let this sink in.

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                    The numbers themselves...what to play ? what to play ?

                    here goes more tracking of the numbers themselves.

                    numbers go hot and cold even the position they are in

                    I track all three positions

                    example mich.

                    1st pos. I'm going back 16 draws

                    o  1  2  3  4 times out

                    4  3  0      1    this is how many times the number in the first pos. came out in 16 draws

                    6  9  2             clearly 1 is hot , these numbers have to move forward

                            5

                            7

                            8

                    2nd pos

                    0  1  2  3  4 times out

                    0  2  4  5  1  one is hot in the second pos.

                    6  3      8

                        7

                        9

                    3rd pos

                    0  1  2  3  4 times out

                    5  2  0  1  4   4 is the hot number , I would keep in the back of my mind the possibility that 114 might

                    6  3  8  9                                          fall. when you put it on paper and look down you see things

                    7

                    Todays midday number fell 699 , so Ill circle 6 in the first 9 in the second and third.

                    after the evening numbers fall i'll circle them and make a new chart.

                    I'm looking for sums 10 , 12 and 17 I see 550 552 557 , but there more to it

                    I start new charts every 30 draws and I use the last 10 draws for my new chart.

                    This is where knowing what fell and whats due comes in handy, you get a feel for the numbers that you have to learn yourself.

                    I have to make dinner...yikes hungry family

                    next I'll get into front pairs back pairs and some of the great tools you can use here.

                    Mirrors and false triples and missing digits ( BIG THANK YOU TO LAVERNE MALONEY)

                    I'LL TRY TO SHOW YOU HOW I START WITH AN IDEA.

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                      Hi sully ,       I read all the posts and understood em up until this last one , now I'm lost :(

                      I don't understand the way you have the numbers laid out or formatted ? is that the right word ? LOL

                      could you PLEASE explain WHY the numbers are in the arrangement that you have them ?

                       

                      Thanks , LOU

                      I intend to win a multi-million dollar lottery jackpot in the very near future

                       

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                        I don't know how to underline , the top set of numbers for each position is how many times they have been out in 16 draws.

                        Take 10 draws add up how many times each digit has fallen first repeat for the second digit and the third.

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                          ok , so the top line of 0 1 2 3 4 is the amount of times out right ?        but beneath those #'s it seems like there are toooo many #'s  , which ones are the pick 3 #'s that you are working with ?

                          I intend to win a multi-million dollar lottery jackpot in the very near future

                           

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                            The bottom numbers are the actual numbers, there are 3 sets of balls used , one for each position.

                            if I plat 619 6 is 1st 1 is 2nd 9 is 3rd.

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                              sully, I understand about the positions and the different sets of balls , what I'm confused about is the way you have the numbers laid out , some going sideways and some hanging downways .  This is why I hate the internet LOL it's so dang hard to decipher what ppl sayin sometimes What?

                              I intend to win a multi-million dollar lottery jackpot in the very near future

                               

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