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Posted: March 21, 2011, 7:31 pm - IP Logged

A Lottery Post member who had virus warnings today let me know that Avast (their virus protection) installed an update that the company admits is producing "false positives" on many Web sites.  (Apparently including Lottery Post.)

A false positive is when the software incorrectly identifies good code as a virus.

They are putting out an update soon to correct the problem.

In the meantime, if you use Avast on your computer, please ignore any warning messages you get on Lottery Post.

Also, if you would consider changing virus protection programs, I highly recommend installing Microsoft Security Essentials.  (This advice is for users of any virus software.)

Security Essentials has an excellent reputation for accuracy, does not slow your PC down, and keeps quiet unless there is a problem.

If you want to try it, first uninstall your current anti-virus software (including firewall software), and then run the installer from Microsoft's Web site:  http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials

Security Essentials works together with the firewall that is built into Windows, and provides great protection.

 

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    Posted: March 21, 2011, 9:37 pm - IP Logged

    A Lottery Post member who had virus warnings today let me know that Avast (their virus protection) installed an update that the company admits is producing "false positives" on many Web sites.  (Apparently including Lottery Post.)

    A false positive is when the software incorrectly identifies good code as a virus.

    They are putting out an update soon to correct the problem.

    In the meantime, if you use Avast on your computer, please ignore any warning messages you get on Lottery Post.

    Also, if you would consider changing virus protection programs, I highly recommend installing Microsoft Security Essentials.  (This advice is for users of any virus software.)

    Security Essentials has an excellent reputation for accuracy, does not slow your PC down, and keeps quiet unless there is a problem.

    If you want to try it, first uninstall your current anti-virus software (including firewall software), and then run the installer from Microsoft's Web site:  http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials

    Security Essentials works together with the firewall that is built into Windows, and provides great protection.

    Good advice Todd. I have microsoft security esseniials installed on my computer and it does a great job of keeping the pop ups away. I had gamevance embedded in my computer and it got rid of it

    norton didn't even come close to getting rid of it. The best part about it is it's free.

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      Posted: March 21, 2011, 10:07 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks Todd...

      You are soooo multi-dimensional...

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        Posted: March 21, 2011, 10:12 pm - IP Logged

        thanks todd,  i just got one here and at another site also.i knew normally that other site was alright.just now i read your message and boom avast popped up a warning.

          think i need to ditch avast altogether or give them a chance to correct the issue?

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          Posted: March 21, 2011, 10:30 pm - IP Logged

          Thanks Todd...

          You are soooo multi-dimensional...

          Stretch

           

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            Posted: March 22, 2011, 7:55 am - IP Logged

            Morning Todd,

            Great advice I learned the hard way some time ago. Had a real nasty that Avast did not find and crashed the system. My computer guy cleaned it out then loaded Essentials because he told me that his large customers software requires it. (He works on hospital computers).

            About 2 weeks ago, Essentials did miss 1 that got around it and removed the Essentials exceute file from my system. My guy had never seen this criter before and contacted Microsoft. He had the fix for this critter the same day. I never thought to highly of Microsoft products until this program.

            This virus program (Microsoft Security Essentials) beats anything else I've ever tried before, not to mention that the local hospital software requires it to be loaded onto their machines.

            If anyone hasn't tried this program, nows the time...

            Thank you Todd for letting everyone know that it really works.

                      The only DUMB question is the one question you DID NOT ask...

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              Posted: March 22, 2011, 8:44 am - IP Logged

              This thread really has me wondering about virus protection and MS Essentials.

              Since the beginning of the Microsoft operating systems, of any sorts, we have always been in need of an antivirus protection. We have also needed other apps to clean and straighten out registry problems, to fix the "blue screen of death" and the lists go on and on.

              Microsoft has always been 10 steps behind in being able to prevent anything happening to thier OS. I find it hard to beleive that MS is now a "leader" in being able to stop virus threats of any kind, unless the Essentials program is actually from a contracted company that makes it for them.

              I will stay with what I know is to be one of the best anti virus protections out there, Trend Micro. I have never had one problem within the 8 years of using them.

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                Posted: March 22, 2011, 9:32 am - IP Logged

                A Lottery Post member who had virus warnings today let me know that Avast (their virus protection) installed an update that the company admits is producing "false positives" on many Web sites.  (Apparently including Lottery Post.)

                A false positive is when the software incorrectly identifies good code as a virus.

                They are putting out an update soon to correct the problem.

                In the meantime, if you use Avast on your computer, please ignore any warning messages you get on Lottery Post.

                Also, if you would consider changing virus protection programs, I highly recommend installing Microsoft Security Essentials.  (This advice is for users of any virus software.)

                Security Essentials has an excellent reputation for accuracy, does not slow your PC down, and keeps quiet unless there is a problem.

                If you want to try it, first uninstall your current anti-virus software (including firewall software), and then run the installer from Microsoft's Web site:  http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials

                Security Essentials works together with the firewall that is built into Windows, and provides great protection.

                Ooops that memeber beat me to it..It popped up like every 2 seconds

                Yelling "MALWARE VIRUS MALWARE MALWARE!!!"

                It forced me to log off and take a break Oogle

                Couldn't listen to my music and surf LPost in peace Skeptical

                Avast like to over do things a bit.

                Mine stopped by itself!!

                 

                 

                Thanks Todd

                The goal is to approach the Pick 3 & Pick 4 game sensibly and systematically!! Wink

                 I'm not like the guy who predicted the end of the world and nothing happened.

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                  Posted: March 22, 2011, 9:40 am - IP Logged

                  This thread really has me wondering about virus protection and MS Essentials.

                  Since the beginning of the Microsoft operating systems, of any sorts, we have always been in need of an antivirus protection. We have also needed other apps to clean and straighten out registry problems, to fix the "blue screen of death" and the lists go on and on.

                  Microsoft has always been 10 steps behind in being able to prevent anything happening to thier OS. I find it hard to beleive that MS is now a "leader" in being able to stop virus threats of any kind, unless the Essentials program is actually from a contracted company that makes it for them.

                  I will stay with what I know is to be one of the best anti virus protections out there, Trend Micro. I have never had one problem within the 8 years of using them.

                  It may seem to you that Microsoft is 10 steps behind and that they suddenly came from nowhere to become a "leader", but the fact is that their antivirus software has been around and working well for years.

                  Security Essentials is the combination of two efforts within the company that came together:  OneCare (consumer protection) and ForeFront (enterprise/corporate protection).

                  OneCare was ridiculed by many people, but it turned out to be among the elite in terms of accuracy of its scanning engine.  By elite, I mean that under testing of the industry standard virus-testing organization (can't remember the name) it was in the top-5 worldwide.

                  Turns out that much of the ridicule was ginned up by the big-name "security software" companies who did not like that Microsoft was putting out a cheap product that was better than their scanners, and did not have the effect of slowing down peoples' PCs the way their overly-bulky software did.

                  Most people haven't heard of ForeFront because it is aimed at companies to protect their various servers from threats.  (I have used it on my servers for years.)

                  The end result of the combination of products was Security Essentials for consumers and ForeFront for companies, but they are the same exact scanning engine underneath.  In fact, the interfaces are pratically identical on them.  So when you install Security Essentials, you are using the same exact software and virus definitions that companies around the world are using to protect their critical servers.

                  The only real difference between the packages is that ForeFront can be monitored and controlled within a corporate domain centrally, whereas Security Essentials is a stand-alone product. 

                  The fact that Microsoft put it out there as a free product is the right thing to do, but it really is amazing if you think about it.

                  OF COURSE Microsoft needs anti-virus protection.  If Apple ran 90% of the world's computers and Microsoft had a mere 5% share, don't you think the shoe would be on the other foot?  Apple would be targeted by everyone and suffering these same issues, and Microsoft would be sitting back not doing much -- like Apple is today.  It's hard to be the leader in this case, and it's great to see that Microsoft has stepped up with excellent software.

                  It may sound like I'm being a salesman for Microsoft, but my passionate descriptions of this software are simply from my own life experience.  For several years I went from software package to software package looking for virus protection that would give me good protection, not slow my PC down, not annoy me with constant reminders and "alerts" about ridiculous "evil cookies", and constantly try to scare me into upgrading every year to their next release.

                  I tried everything out there, and I mean everything.  I came close a few times to finding something I liked, but then I found it did not work for one reason or another.  It didn't matter if it was free or paid software, they all disappointed me.

                  Then I tried Microsoft OneCare, and that was the closest thing to my ideal anti-virus that I came across.  It was not free software at the time -- I think it cost around $50 after a free trial.  I did the free trial and was so happy with it that I purchased it, and then installed on my various PCs.  It made me a little nervous because of the snarky comments from people on the Internet about it, but then I started seeing the test results coming out showing that it was among the best in the world at finding viruses.

                  When OneCare eventually become Security Essentials -- and became free -- it made a good thing even better and simpler.

                  If you're using Trend Micro and it works for you, then great!  Everyone has their own list of ideal qualities for virus protection, so use whatever works for you.

                  I recommend Security Essentials because I know that so many people struggle with protecting their PCs from online threats, and the security software business is vulture-like in its drive to scare people and extract their money for bloated junk that makes them wrongly feel that cookies are as bad as viruses and they have to keep paying every year for basic protection.  And many times those software packages have terrible detection rates!

                  As a web site owner, every day I have to cope with people asking me "why can't I log in", and it turns out that their "security" software is blocking their browser's ability to store the login cookie.  Why does it block the cookie?  Because paid "security" software has to act like it is constantly doing something critically important , or else why would you bother paying for it every year?

                  That is angering to me, and it is a sign of very bad software practices.  Security software should stay in the background at all times, silently doing its thing, and only make its presence known when something bad happens.  It should not interfere with browsing the web, aside from protecting against true threats.  It should be a small, efficient software package that does not consume more than a minimum amount of memory and processing power.

                  So that's why I recommend Security Essentials.

                   

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                    Posted: March 22, 2011, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

                    Todd, thanks for letting me know about the virus warnings. I didn't know why there are virus warnings.

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                      Posted: March 22, 2011, 5:27 pm - IP Logged

                      hey now,

                      um a user, a duck and a memba who followed Todd's advice! 

                      i believe my whole community lives in my house, i know when i wake up they here, and when i go to bed they still here, anyway they luv being on line and up/downloadin' a bunch a junk, but with my windows 7 and Security Essentials, bells go off and they have to come get me, and then i DECIDE on the damage that it about to be done. 

                      in short, i had a bunch of issues in the PAST, so here's Thumbs UpThumbs UpSecurity EssentialsThumbs UpThumbs UpThumbs Up

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                        Posted: March 22, 2011, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

                        Because of your comments about Microsoft anti-virus I ditched my virus software I'd been paying for about 8 years and installed Security Essentials a few days ago.  Seems to work very well, am very pleased with increased speed ..... and it auto-updates.

                        Good luck to everyone!

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                          Posted: March 23, 2011, 12:19 am - IP Logged

                          Will this Security Essentials work with FIREFOX 4?

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                            Posted: March 23, 2011, 12:19 pm - IP Logged

                            Because of your comments about Microsoft anti-virus I ditched my virus software I'd been paying for about 8 years and installed Security Essentials a few days ago.  Seems to work very well, am very pleased with increased speed ..... and it auto-updates.

                            I Agree! Security Essentials - excellent product, and you can't beat the price !

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                              Posted: March 23, 2011, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

                              Yeah becasue I stop coming up here because of that I thought there was an virus.... Thanks for the update