FL United States Member #93841 July 8, 2010 576 Posts Offline

Posted: April 24, 2011, 6:38 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Teamprofit on April 24, 2011

I believe I finally have the worksheet set up properly (http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/230019)

Now do I still update the information in this order....

Enter lottery number Find Gap number Find PID Generate AID

Then fill out all the tracking information for lines 6-22

You don't have to answer the above question anymore I figured it out..........I have a new question, I will write it in a new post to be less confusing

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FL United States Member #93841 July 8, 2010 576 Posts Offline

Posted: April 24, 2011, 7:01 pm - IP Logged

In this post http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/229325/1997616

You began with this worksheet......

Beginning Worksheet:

Line 1: HOT 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Line 2: R1 F1 F2 F3 M1 M2 M4 L1 L2 L3 Line 3: HOT 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Line 4: A A A B B B C C C R Line 5: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0

Line 6: HOT R1 F1 F2 F3 M1 M2 M3 L1 L2 L3

Then your final worksheet was....

The updated worksheet (without strike overs) lines are:

Line 1: HOT 0 2 3 5 6 8 9 7 4 1 Line 2: R1 F1 F3 M1 M2 M4 L1 L2 L3 F2 M1 F1 Line 3: HOT 1 2 4 5 7 8 0 3 6 9 Line 4: A A A B B B C C C R C C C Line 5: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 8 7 9

Line 6: HOT R1 F3 M2 M3 L1 L2 L3 F2 M1 F1

I know this is the old sheet but in this thread you explain how to enter the lottery numbers and generate the GAP, PID, and AID. I am confused on how to properly generate the PID because the first time you generate the PID you use the difference between the GAP number in the stream and the new GAP number entered to create the number used to generate the PID. Then the next time around you just use the Gap number to generate the PID directly.

Example 1... You enter the 7(lottery) which gives you a Gap number 3 which in turn you count the difference between the new 3 and the 3 in the stream, then you get 8. Now you count the fixed PID from right to left using 8 to get F2.

In the next example with the lottery number 4 and 1 you do not count the difference given by the Gap number, you just use the Gap number and count the fixed PID from right to left to generate the PID.

Example 2... You enter the 4(lottery) which gives you a Gap number 6. Now you count the fixed PID from right to left using 6 to get M1.

Example 3... You enter the 1(lottery) which gives you a Gap number 9. Now you count the fixed PID from right to left using 9 to get F1.

In example 1 you used the difference of the gap number in the stream and the new gap number to count off in the fixed PID but in example 2 and 3 you used the Gap number to count off in the fixed PID chart.

Is there a mistake? Or do you have to use the difference between the gap numbers the first time and then just use the gap numbers?

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San Angelo, Texas United States Member #1097 January 31, 2003 1394 Posts Offline

Posted: April 24, 2011, 9:13 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Teamprofit on April 24, 2011

In this post http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/229325/1997616

You began with this worksheet......

Beginning Worksheet:

Line 1: HOT 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Line 2: R1 F1 F2 F3 M1 M2 M4 L1 L2 L3 Line 3: HOT 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 Line 4: A A A B B B C C C R Line 5: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0

Line 6: HOT R1 F1 F2 F3 M1 M2 M3 L1 L2 L3

Then your final worksheet was....

The updated worksheet (without strike overs) lines are:

Line 1: HOT 0 2 3 5 6 8 9 7 4 1 Line 2: R1 F1 F3 M1 M2 M4 L1 L2 L3 F2 M1 F1 Line 3: HOT 1 2 4 5 7 8 0 3 6 9 Line 4: A A A B B B C C C R C C C Line 5: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 8 7 9

Line 6: HOT R1 F3 M2 M3 L1 L2 L3 F2 M1 F1

I know this is the old sheet but in this thread you explain how to enter the lottery numbers and generate the GAP, PID, and AID. I am confused on how to properly generate the PID because the first time you generate the PID you use the difference between the GAP number in the stream and the new GAP number entered to create the number used to generate the PID. Then the next time around you just use the Gap number to generate the PID directly.

Example 1... You enter the 7(lottery) which gives you a Gap number 3 which in turn you count the difference between the new 3 and the 3 in the stream, then you get 8. Now you count the fixed PID from right to left using 8 to get F2.

In the next example with the lottery number 4 and 1 you do not count the difference given by the Gap number, you just use the Gap number and count the fixed PID from right to left to generate the PID.

Example 2... You enter the 4(lottery) which gives you a Gap number 6. Now you count the fixed PID from right to left using 6 to get M1.

Example 3... You enter the 1(lottery) which gives you a Gap number 9. Now you count the fixed PID from right to left using 9 to get F1.

In example 1 you used the difference of the gap number in the stream and the new gap number to count off in the fixed PID but in example 2 and 3 you used the Gap number to count off in the fixed PID chart.

Is there a mistake? Or do you have to use the difference between the gap numbers the first time and then just use the gap numbers?

Hi!

I've been unable to find the data you hilighted on my worksheets. Doesn't take long to use up a page of graph paper. I'm on page 6.

I'm still updating the streams beginning with Feb 1 when the revised Fixed PID was adopted. I've not encountered any problems.

I use the exact same procedure to generate the data.

The Gap number is determined by counting the active cells between like numbers in the Lottery stream.

The PID is determined by counting the active cells between like numbers in the Gap stream.

An active cell is one that has not been marked off. There are ten in each stream.

If the Gap number is 3 for example, you make a mental count (starting with L3 and counting right to left, equals M3, or by using the Fixed PID at top of the worksheet, counting 3 spaces going from right to left, equals M3.

The Fixed PID is R1F1F2F3M1M2M3L1L2L3.

The AID is determined by transferring the PID to Line 6 and counting from right to left.

Remember that the original PID stream does not have any strike overs; whereas in the Line 6 PID stream the duplicate PIDs are marked off (obliterated) after being counted.

FL United States Member #93841 July 8, 2010 576 Posts Offline

Posted: April 24, 2011, 9:41 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on April 24, 2011

Hi!

I've been unable to find the data you hilighted on my worksheets. Doesn't take long to use up a page of graph paper. I'm on page 6.

I'm still updating the streams beginning with Feb 1 when the revised Fixed PID was adopted. I've not encountered any problems.

I use the exact same procedure to generate the data.

The Gap number is determined by counting the active cells between like numbers in the Lottery stream.

The PID is determined by counting the active cells between like numbers in the Gap stream.

An active cell is one that has not been marked off. There are ten in each stream.

If the Gap number is 3 for example, you make a mental count (starting with L3 and counting right to left, equals M3, or by using the Fixed PID at top of the worksheet, counting 3 spaces going from right to left, equals M3.

The Fixed PID is R1F1F2F3M1M2M3L1L2L3.

The AID is determined by transferring the PID to Line 6 and counting from right to left.

Remember that the original PID stream does not have any strike overs; whereas in the Line 6 PID stream the duplicate PIDs are marked off (obliterated) after being counted.

If the count is 6, then the AID is 6B.

These are hard and fast rules.

Advise if you need further explanation.

If the Gap number is 3 for example, you make a mental count (starting with L3 and counting right to left, equals M3, or by using the Fixed PID at top of the worksheet, counting 3 spaces going from right to left, equals M3.

Thank you this answers my question. Thanks for your help

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San Angelo, Texas United States Member #1097 January 31, 2003 1394 Posts Offline

Posted: April 25, 2011, 8:55 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by Teamprofit on April 24, 2011

If the Gap number is 3 for example, you make a mental count (starting with L3 and counting right to left, equals M3, or by using the Fixed PID at top of the worksheet, counting 3 spaces going from right to left, equals M3.

Thank you this answers my question. Thanks for your help

Sorry about the typo.

I, of course, meant to use Gap 4 as the example.

The PID for Gap 3 is L3.

The 'SOP' is the important thing.

I've made some G to PID errors in the past. They can be corrected if caught early. However, there isn't enough data available to know what effect they have on the selection process.

I have also mistakenly used lottery numbers to generate the PIDs, an error that has to be corrected immediately. Because it involves a lot of extra work, I've set up a QC procedure to guide my logging.

FL United States Member #93841 July 8, 2010 576 Posts Offline

Posted: April 26, 2011, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on April 25, 2011

Sorry about the typo.

I, of course, meant to use Gap 4 as the example.

The PID for Gap 3 is L3.

The 'SOP' is the important thing.

I've made some G to PID errors in the past. They can be corrected if caught early. However, there isn't enough data available to know what effect they have on the selection process.

I have also mistakenly used lottery numbers to generate the PIDs, an error that has to be corrected immediately. Because it involves a lot of extra work, I've set up a QC procedure to guide my logging.

Accuracy is important in all things.

Thanks for your interest.

How is the PID for Gap 3...L3???

R1

F1

F2

F3

M1

M2

M3

L1

L2

L3

10

9

8

7

6

5

4

3

2

1

I thought the PID for Gap 3 would be L1 if you go from right to left

I have one more question.........

How many sheets are you actually using now?And can you named them please(example: Inventory, Tracking, Worksheet, etc)

"It's evolve or die, really, you have to evolve, you have to move on otherwise it just becomes stagnant."

San Angelo, Texas United States Member #1097 January 31, 2003 1394 Posts Offline

Posted: April 27, 2011, 10:00 am - IP Logged

Hi!

I think the spot examples have created a problem.

Your chart suggests that Gap 3 is always L1, which is incorrect.

Any workout must have 'dynamic' features.

Converting Gap numbers to Position Identifiers has to be dynamic.

Here how it works:

Gap Stream: 7 2 3 0 6 4 8 1 9 5

Next Gap # is 3:

Counting right to left, Gap 3 equals F2

(5 is L3, 9 is L2, 1 is L1, 8 is M3, 4 is M2, 6 is M1, 0 is F3, 3 is F2)

Updated Gap Stream: 7 2 0 6 4 8 1 9 5 3

Next Gap # 8

Counting right to left, Gap 8 equals M3

Updated Gap Stream: 7 2 0 6 4 1 9 5 3 8

Next Gap # 7

Counting right to left, Gap 7 equals R1

Updated Gap Stream: 2 0 6 4 1 9 5 3 8 7

Next Gap # 3

Counting right to left, Gap 3 equals L1

Updated Gap Stream: 2 0 6 4 1 9 5 8 7 3

In practice, the gap stream is a mix of marked and unmarked cells.

Therefore, the Fixed PID can be used as a reference, or overlay, simply by removing the active cells and writing them down in proper order under or over the FPID stream.

Once you have the SOP down pat, the counting can become a mental process simply by starting the count with L3 at the last Gap number and proceeding right to left.

I don't know how else to describe it.

This post is getting rather long.

I'll answer your question about forms in another thread.

FL United States Member #93841 July 8, 2010 576 Posts Offline

Posted: April 28, 2011, 12:16 am - IP Logged

Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on April 27, 2011

Hi!

I think the spot examples have created a problem.

Your chart suggests that Gap 3 is always L1, which is incorrect.

Any workout must have 'dynamic' features.

Converting Gap numbers to Position Identifiers has to be dynamic.

Here how it works:

Gap Stream: 7 2 3 0 6 4 8 1 9 5

Next Gap # is 3:

Counting right to left, Gap 3 equals F2

(5 is L3, 9 is L2, 1 is L1, 8 is M3, 4 is M2, 6 is M1, 0 is F3, 3 is F2)

Updated Gap Stream: 7 2 0 6 4 8 1 9 5 3

Next Gap # 8

Counting right to left, Gap 8 equals M3

Updated Gap Stream: 7 2 0 6 4 1 9 5 3 8

Next Gap # 7

Counting right to left, Gap 7 equals R1

Updated Gap Stream: 2 0 6 4 1 9 5 3 8 7

Next Gap # 3

Counting right to left, Gap 3 equals L1

Updated Gap Stream: 2 0 6 4 1 9 5 8 7 3

In practice, the gap stream is a mix of marked and unmarked cells.

Therefore, the Fixed PID can be used as a reference, or overlay, simply by removing the active cells and writing them down in proper order under or over the FPID stream.

Once you have the SOP down pat, the counting can become a mental process simply by starting the count with L3 at the last Gap number and proceeding right to left.

I don't know how else to describe it.

This post is getting rather long.

I'll answer your question about forms in another thread.

Thanks for your interest.

Thank you for your reply.....I'm catching on, I'm just trying to make sure I got all the details right

"It's evolve or die, really, you have to evolve, you have to move on otherwise it just becomes stagnant."