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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: July 13, 2011, 9:25 pm - IP Logged

I scrambled the numbers in the wheels so #1 hits most and #49 hits least and now I will look at the Ohio Classic Lotto and swap numbers accordingly, #1=22,#2=46 and etc.

  28 33 34 36 43 45
  34 41 43 46 48 49
  23 28 30 34 44 49
  29 34 40 41 44 45
  24 29 34 37 44 47
  25 31 33 34 39 44
  26 34 36 39 41 44
  32 34 35 37 40 44
  27 34 37 38 42 44
  23 31 34 36 45 46
  23 28 30 34 39 41
  25 30 34 36 45 48
  27 34 36 37 45 49
  24 26 32 34 36 38
  24 32 34 38 39 49
  25 31 33 34 41 49
  26 27 34 35 39 47
  26 29 34 35 39 42
  26 34 39 40 42 47
  39 43 44 45 46 48
  26 28 33 41 43 44
  23 24 25 38 43 47
  23 25 26 29 43 46
  23 25 35 40 42 43
  23 25 27 30 37 43
  23 25 32 33 36 43
  24 35 42 43 46 48
  24 27 30 31 40 43
  26 30 31 36 37 43
  29 30 31 35 38 43
  27 28 31 36 43 48
  27 28 29 32 33 43
  28 33 37 39 43 49
  38 40 43 46 47 48
  30 31 32 42 43 47
  23 28 30 39 44 45
  23 26 31 41 44 46
  25 31 33 44 45 49
  24 26 32 37 39 44
  24 32 36 38 44 49
  25 26 30 41 44 48
  27 35 36 44 47 49
  29 35 38 42 44 47
  29 36 40 42 44 49
  23 28 30 41 45 49
  23 24 28 30 35 42
  23 24 27 33 40 48
  23 26 33 36 37 48
  23 26 28 31 32 48
  23 29 33 35 38 48
  23 27 29 31 32 46
  23 28 30 38 40 47
  23 31 37 39 46 49
  23 32 33 42 47 48
  24 26 29 45 47 49
  24 35 37 38 41 45
  24 27 32 41 42 45
  25 31 33 39 41 45
  26 32 35 40 45 49
  26 27 38 42 45 49
  27 35 37 41 45 47
  29 36 37 40 42 45
  32 37 38 41 45 47
  24 25 31 33 35 42
  24 25 27 28 40 46
  24 26 27 32 35 41
  24 30 33 35 46 47
  24 27 29 32 39 40
  24 29 36 39 41 47
  24 28 31 38 42 48
  25 26 28 36 37 46
  25 28 29 35 38 46
  25 27 29 30 32 48
  25 28 29 31 37 48
  25 28 32 42 46 47
  25 30 37 39 48 49
  25 31 33 38 40 47
  26 27 30 31 33 46
  26 27 29 38 39 40
  32 35 36 39 40 41
  28 31 35 40 47 48
  27 36 38 39 41 42
  28 29 30 33 36 46
  30 32 33 37 46 48
  29 37 40 41 42 49
  30 33 38 40 42 46
  01 02 03 04 05 06
  01 02 07 08 09 10
  01 02 11 12 13 14
  01 02 15 16 17 18
  01 02 19 20 21 22
  01 03 07 11 15 19
  01 03 08 12 16 20
  01 03 09 13 17 21
  01 03 10 14 18 22
  01 04 07 12 17 22
  01 04 08 11 18 21
  01 04 09 14 15 20
  01 04 10 13 16 19
  01 05 07 13 18 20
  01 05 08 14 17 19
  01 05 09 11 16 22
  01 05 10 12 15 21
  01 06 07 14 16 21
  01 06 08 13 15 22
  01 06 09 12 18 19
  01 06 10 11 17 20
  02 03 07 12 18 21
  02 03 08 11 17 22
  02 03 09 14 16 19
  02 03 10 13 15 20
  02 04 07 11 16 20
  02 04 08 12 15 19
  02 04 09 13 18 22
  02 04 10 14 17 21
  02 05 07 14 15 22
  02 05 08 13 16 21
  02 05 09 12 17 20
  02 05 10 11 18 19
  02 06 07 13 17 19
  02 06 08 14 18 20
  02 06 09 11 15 21
  02 06 10 12 16 22
  03 04 07 08 13 14
  03 04 09 10 11 12
  03 04 15 16 21 22
  03 04 17 18 19 20
  03 05 07 10 16 17
  03 05 08 09 15 18
  03 05 11 14 20 21
  03 05 12 13 19 22
  03 06 07 09 20 22
  03 06 08 10 19 21
  03 06 11 13 16 18
  03 06 12 14 15 17
  04 05 07 09 19 21
  04 05 08 10 20 22
  04 05 11 13 15 17
  04 05 12 14 16 18
  04 06 07 10 15 18
  04 06 08 09 16 17
  04 06 11 14 19 22
  04 06 12 13 20 21
  05 06 07 08 11 12
  05 06 09 10 13 14
  05 06 15 16 19 20
  05 06 17 18 21 22
  07 08 15 17 20 21
  07 08 16 18 19 22
  07 09 11 14 17 18
  07 09 12 13 15 16
  07 10 11 13 21 22
  07 10 12 14 19 20
  08 09 11 13 19 20
  08 09 12 14 21 22
  08 10 11 14 15 16
  08 10 12 13 17 18
  09 10 15 17 19 22
  09 10 16 18 20 21
  11 12 15 18 20 22
  11 12 16 17 19 21
  13 14 15 18 19 21
  13 14 16 17 20 22
 
I never play more than 20 lines, so this is something I might work on for entertainment. Lately the best I've done with 20 lines is to match3 twice but with the new parameters I'm using I think its just a matter of time before I do better.  I'll probably continue to play OCL until someone wins it.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
   
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    Posted: July 16, 2011, 8:32 pm - IP Logged

    I think  that wheeling is worse than filtering.

       Wheeling is like to kill flies with cannon-shots. To succeed the correct bet with wheeling, are necessary innumerable bets with useless combinations, which it is very difficult that they go out:
       (For example, with all the even or odd numbers, etc.).

    Cheers

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      Posted: July 16, 2011, 8:43 pm - IP Logged

      Hi Developer:

         I have proved your program with a drawing of my lottery 6/49.

         The program was offering myself the numbers between a total of 26 numbers.
         Example:

         Ball 1:Between the numbers 6 to 10
         Ball 2:Between the numbers 15 to 20,
         Etc.

      With this 26 numbers,there were 4 successes. (Which is not bad, but I look more for precision, concerning 15 numbers).

         I understand that it is difficult, because of it the title of the post, it is "Clever lottery post members", (because I understand that it is a topic for a genius, to have the solution) .Perhaps there is no solution...

       

      Cheers

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        Posted: July 17, 2011, 11:06 am - IP Logged

        In order to pick the winning combination you have to first have a chance to choose it.  When you consider 6/49 games have 13,983,816 possible combinations and only 13,796 of them will match 4 or more of the winning numbers then you realize you could evaluate 10,000 combinations and never see a combination that would even matched 4 or more winning numbers. 

        The question in my mind is how many combinations should one be willing to evaluate to give themselves a chance of picking one of the 259 combinations that will a least match 5 of the winning numbers.  It could be that players who evaluate less than 50,000 combinations to pick the a few combinations to play never even evaluate a combination that would match 5 or better.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
           
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          Posted: July 17, 2011, 11:26 am - IP Logged

          Hi Developer:

             I have proved your program with a drawing of my lottery 6/49.

             The program was offering myself the numbers between a total of 26 numbers.
             Example:

             Ball 1:Between the numbers 6 to 10
             Ball 2:Between the numbers 15 to 20,
             Etc.

          With this 26 numbers,there were 4 successes. (Which is not bad, but I look more for precision, concerning 15 numbers).

             I understand that it is difficult, because of it the title of the post, it is "Clever lottery post members", (because I understand that it is a topic for a genius, to have the solution) .Perhaps there is no solution...

           

          Cheers

          How will a person of average ability know the solution presented by a person of extraordinary ability is the solution? Thud

          A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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            Posted: July 17, 2011, 11:32 am - IP Logged

            ........I understand that it is a topic for a genius......

            Not every player who thinks he's clever is a genius, if you wanted response from genius why didn't you say so up front?

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
               
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              Posted: July 17, 2011, 2:36 pm - IP Logged

              How will a person of average ability know the solution presented by a person of extraordinary ability is the solution? Thud

              Any solution that wins is the one, we average ability folks just have to be able to check our tickets.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
                 
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                Posted: July 17, 2011, 6:06 pm - IP Logged

                The failures persons, when someone indicates the moon, they look at the finger

                Luck exists but when it comes, you have to be being employed at it

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                  Posted: July 19, 2011, 6:20 pm - IP Logged

                  Hi Developer:

                     I have proved your program with a drawing of my lottery 6/49.

                     The program was offering myself the numbers between a total of 26 numbers.
                     Example:

                     Ball 1:Between the numbers 6 to 10
                     Ball 2:Between the numbers 15 to 20,
                     Etc.

                  With this 26 numbers,there were 4 successes. (Which is not bad, but I look more for precision, concerning 15 numbers).

                     I understand that it is difficult, because of it the title of the post, it is "Clever lottery post members", (because I understand that it is a topic for a genius, to have the solution) .Perhaps there is no solution...

                   

                  Cheers

                  Your referring to LOWESS predictions if I understand you correctly.

                  If you picture in your mind the LOWESS curve plotted like a cowboys whip, it flows, depending on the input from the cowboy more or less waves will appear.

                  When using LOWESS adjust the settings to reduce these waves but not enough to render them useless.

                  You will see the predictions become tighter giving less numbers to choose from.

                  Just in the past 4 weeks I have had two users (one was a syndicate of 6) report 5+1 win's on the Euro Millions, both different draws and both netted over £500,000

                  It is down to the user to track , analyse and adjust for the next draw.

                   

                  Then apply this knowledge to the next draw, keep at it and you will see a marked improvment on your wins.

                  It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

                  There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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                    Posted: July 19, 2011, 6:26 pm - IP Logged

                    Intresting fact on a 6/49 draw

                    Ball number 1 will appear as the lowest ball on avearge every 8 draws

                    But ball number 19 will only appear as a 5th ball on avearge every 152 draws

                    Ball number 49 will appear as the highest ball on avearge every 8 draws

                     

                    These facts can never change and are based on every ball combination in a 6/49 draw

                    It has been said every software has a bug in it, it has also been said that every program can be reduced by one line of code.

                    There for any program can be reduced to 1 line that dont work.

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                      Posted: July 19, 2011, 8:42 pm - IP Logged

                      Your referring to LOWESS predictions if I understand you correctly.

                      If you picture in your mind the LOWESS curve plotted like a cowboys whip, it flows, depending on the input from the cowboy more or less waves will appear.

                      When using LOWESS adjust the settings to reduce these waves but not enough to render them useless.

                      You will see the predictions become tighter giving less numbers to choose from.

                      Just in the past 4 weeks I have had two users (one was a syndicate of 6) report 5+1 win's on the Euro Millions, both different draws and both netted over £500,000

                      It is down to the user to track , analyse and adjust for the next draw.

                       

                      Then apply this knowledge to the next draw, keep at it and you will see a marked improvment on your wins.

                      Thanks Developer for your response:


                      Your program looks very good.I have some ideas, for reducing the numbers predicted.I have sent you a private message about some doubts.

                       

                      Thanks again

                      Luck exists but when it comes, you have to be being employed at it

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                        Posted: July 29, 2011, 5:45 pm - IP Logged

                        Hallo again:

                        Today- after many days without succeeding anything- I have got, with a new method, to succeed 5  (from 6) numbers of a  pool of 22 numbers.

                        What happened?:

                        0 successes!!!=0 euros

                          This it is the problem of playing more than 15 numbers. Though you succeed 5 ,or more, numbers, playing only 24 bets, it is very difficult to win.

                        I´ll never play big pools with more than 15 numbers.

                        Luck exists but when it comes, you have to be being employed at it

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                          hi lottohardworker!

                          It is very good you use programs for your analysis and generating combinations.I am afraid that is very difficult to work with a pool of 15 numbers.I was playing with a pool of 30 numbers and still didn't get all 6 numbers in the pool most of times.NOW! Please go on advancedlotttery(dot)co (dot )uk and read through.I know that most of what is beeing said there you already know but that's not the point.The point is the way of thinking as far as strategies and the possibility to create a unique syndicate where members can play ONE strategy (few hundred combinations).The heart of the site is to start thinking in terms of number groups.I am working on average of 4-6 hours a day on my lottery,have loads of lottery software and I work with millions of combinations. Listen if you are interested we can go in much more detail and share strategies.All the best

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                          I am choosing to be amongst the few!

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                            Thanks greencobra7. I´ll study your suggestions,but now I am a bit disillusioned by these topics and am going to rest a bit.

                            Thanks and Regards

                            Luck exists but when it comes, you have to be being employed at it

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                              Posted: August 4, 2011, 3:04 pm - IP Logged

                              hi lottohardworker!

                              It is very good you use programs for your analysis and generating combinations.I am afraid that is very difficult to work with a pool of 15 numbers.I was playing with a pool of 30 numbers and still didn't get all 6 numbers in the pool most of times.NOW! Please go on advancedlotttery(dot)co (dot )uk and read through.I know that most of what is beeing said there you already know but that's not the point.The point is the way of thinking as far as strategies and the possibility to create a unique syndicate where members can play ONE strategy (few hundred combinations).The heart of the site is to start thinking in terms of number groups.I am working on average of 4-6 hours a day on my lottery,have loads of lottery software and I work with millions of combinations. Listen if you are interested we can go in much more detail and share strategies.All the best

                              Rather than working with a pool of 15 numbers, you would probably have better luck working with a pool of numbers generated doing the last 15 drawings.  In Ohio Classic Lotto, most of its winning numbers have hit at least once in the previous 15 drawings.

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
                                 
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