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Honduras
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i´ll give you an example...

a 4/4 box wheel size 10 will cost you: \$210 dollars a 3/4 box wheel size 10 will cost you i dont know: \$70 to play using all 10 numbers...

My question is a: a 2/4 box wheel size 8 might cost you i dont know: \$12, now do you see the: \$70 - \$12 = \$58 dollars or \$210 - \$12 = \$98 dollars difference...do you see the \$58 dollars difference...Question is Cant you take those \$58 dollars difference create another wheel that might have 2/4 or several 1/4 size 8 that might cost less and attached it to the \$12 wheel making it as equivalent as the: 4/4 box wheel but cheaper...

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i´ll give you an example...

a 4/4 box wheel size 10 will cost you: \$210 dollars a 3/4 box wheel size 10 will cost you i dont know: \$70 to play using all 10 numbers...

My question is a: a 2/4 box wheel size 8 might cost you i dont know: \$12, now do you see the: \$70 - \$12 = \$58 dollars or \$210 - \$12 = \$98 dollars difference...do you see the \$58 dollars difference...Question is Cant you take those \$58 dollars difference create another wheel that might have 2/4 or several 1/4 size 8 that might cost less and attached it to the \$12 wheel making it as equivalent as the: 4/4 box wheel but cheaper...

The smallest 3 if 4 wheel I found has 18 box combos and the 2 if 4 has 3. A 1 if 4 wheel must have 3 combos too because all ten digits must be used. Jade has a very nice simple wheel generator that you can install on your computer.

bgonÃ§alves
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Hello, stack47, is it possible to create wheels that can be,
Pin down the digits that is, before I choose the digits to set a weight
For each digit, example, I want the left digit is 1,4,2 =
And the right weights and then set = 4,5,8,9 in the digits, so instead of picking numbers
If you choose weights to create wheels!

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Hello, stack47, is it possible to create wheels that can be,
Pin down the digits that is, before I choose the digits to set a weight
For each digit, example, I want the left digit is 1,4,2 =
And the right weights and then set = 4,5,8,9 in the digits, so instead of picking numbers
If you choose weights to create wheels!

I believe you're referring to filtering full wheels and Lottery Director has a free wheeling program. On the website they have examples of compound wheels and that may be what you're looking for.

bgonÃ§alves
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Hello, ok, ok stack, you think it is possible to calculate the lottery pairs pick3
With the FFG ion formula? But the calculation of the pairs ok

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dr. san are you really from brazil...really or are you from somewhere else...

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

bgonÃ§alves
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Hello, pumpi76, yes I'm from Brazil, a city in southern Brazil, Bento Gonçalves, Rio Grande do Sul google.pumpi see ok, comes the inspiration for quand0 lotus, you have to think so = that the basis of this lottery is, can be predicted mathematically is to some extent after random
Example in a game 49 / 6 can be predicted mathematically until 3 to 4 with confidence others are random, the problem of wheels that they have flaws in their construction ok
Not getting a smaller building, pump, watch out because the translation is done by google, pump your need for a study on the union depares the smaller number and greater number that is the pair of tips, example = 12,15,26, 32,45,47 and 12 the smallest number greater 47
So the pair will be 12.47, you can see this study or have their good ideas, not in Brazil
The use of resources in computing, after the Americans joined the north and south
They are the greatest nation in the world, and most developed in the world even though we Americans, but we would be ruled by ruthless dictators, pump ok
Another based on lotteries, half is formed by the repetition of numbers with delays
Joining these two points, how to try to predict with more confidence are pairs and trios (a lottery of 49 / 6), pump you have to program your subconscious to see ideas
What they use up to 80% of the sweepstakes, using the subconscious as gauss

And great mathematicians, many ideas came in a dream, thank you

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Hello, Pump, you can help me see this idea, eg
After choosing the example = 01.13 pair make a run .....
Choosing pairs, instead of picking numbers, the wheel
Choose pairs, provided the pair hitting hits
Linked to the record of results, that at most one pair of each
Draw, an example jogo49 / 6 can not have 3 raffles numerosdos
Previous positions and also on the list of backward pairings on the list
We have 6 positions to represent letters by letter A 1 position, up to 6
Then = A, B, C, D, E. F, JADE does, can do this code?,
Wheels would be filtered by the entries of the results is guaranteed
80% would be fine, thank you

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Hello, ok, ok stack, you think it is possible to calculate the lottery pairs pick3
With the FFG ion formula? But the calculation of the pairs ok

I believe by changing (1/1000) to (1/100), the mean is 79.2, but Ion Saliu's formulas are usually way way over my head.

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I believe by changing (1/1000) to (1/100), the mean is 79.2, but Ion Saliu's formulas are usually way way over my head.

Really?

I thought you knew it all.

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Really?

I thought you knew it all.

Just the fact I knew the Dr. was talking about Ion Saliu means I'm many notches above your lottery IQ.

Stick to posting what you do best; the odds and payoffs of pick-3 games and I'm sure some day you'll find someone that didn't already know them.

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Just the fact I knew the Dr. was talking about Ion Saliu means I'm many notches above your lottery IQ.

Stick to posting what you do best; the odds and payoffs of pick-3 games and I'm sure some day you'll find someone that didn't already know them.

This is hilarious!

When Ion Saliu had his bogus stuff deleted at Wikipedia he bemoaned his plight.  Here is what one of the gatekeepers said in reply: (Some LP people call the gatekeepers Lottery Nazis!)

"Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place to post your own theories. See Wikipedia:No original research. andy 19:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC) I've run into this issue before where my mathematical contributions were deleted, so I empathize with you somewhat. Please try getting correct references for the info you posted. If your research is original and useful as you say, it is probably worth publishing somewhere first."

--Amit 06:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lottery

When you can show that your winnings are positively correlated with your "Lottery IQ" and not the number of tickets you purchase, publish your results and become famous.

It's incredible that you would accept the self serving garbage produced by system software salespeople like Gail Howard and Ion Saliu, but reject the work of a mathematician and casino industry consultant like Don Catlin.

http://catlin.casinocitytimes.com/article/lottery-nonsense-8694

--Jimmy4164

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Hello, Jimmy, as the basis of lottery games in half the forecast is mathematically possible and the other half random example, in a game 49 / 6
Predicting trios and blocks, it is mathematically possible and feasible in all sweepstakes
The difficulty and the other part of the random part to complete the bet six
Based on this concept, how to set up lottery system?
Maybe wheels with this concept? What is the most perfect mother of the wheels?
A system that has aproveitamentode 80% of the sweepstakes will be good, the repetition of a key event is the probability, a replay system of pairs of intervals
Sounds promising, we must design systems that have a utilization of 80% to 90%, 100% close because it is impossible,

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This is hilarious!

When Ion Saliu had his bogus stuff deleted at Wikipedia he bemoaned his plight.  Here is what one of the gatekeepers said in reply: (Some LP people call the gatekeepers Lottery Nazis!)

"Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place to post your own theories. See Wikipedia:No original research. andy 19:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC) I've run into this issue before where my mathematical contributions were deleted, so I empathize with you somewhat. Please try getting correct references for the info you posted. If your research is original and useful as you say, it is probably worth publishing somewhere first."

--Amit 06:09, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lottery

When you can show that your winnings are positively correlated with your "Lottery IQ" and not the number of tickets you purchase, publish your results and become famous.

It's incredible that you would accept the self serving garbage produced by system software salespeople like Gail Howard and Ion Saliu, but reject the work of a mathematician and casino industry consultant like Don Catlin.

http://catlin.casinocitytimes.com/article/lottery-nonsense-8694

--Jimmy4164

"When you can show that your winnings are positively correlated with your "Lottery IQ" and not the number of tickets you purchase, publish your results and become famous."

It's obvious you searched the name Ion Saliu AFTER I mentioned I knew who he was in my reply to Dr. San. How many of your lottery kindergarten variety statements do you want me to post that proves the lottery IQ of LP drops several notches every time you post?

"It's incredible that you would accept the self serving garbage produced by system software salespeople like Gail Howard and Ion Saliu,"

Did you forget to give at least one example of me tauting Howard or Saliu's systems, miss the article in the daily lottery news "Fla. man wins \$35M lottery jackpot with computer software", or maybe just pretending to ignore it?

Everybody knows you ride short yellow lottery school bus; no need to keep on proving it.

"but reject the work of a mathematician and casino industry consultant like Don Catlin."

From Casino City Times:

"Don Catlin is a retired professor of mathematics and statistics from the University of Massachusetts. His original research area was in Stochastic Estimation applied to submarine navigation problems but has spent the last several years doing gaming analysis for gaming developers and writing about gaming. He is the author of The Lottery Book, The Truth Behind the Numbers published by Bonus books."

Nice try Jimmy, pretending Catlin actually is a consultant to some of the multi-billion dollar gaming corporations. LMAO!

Guess you didn't know that Catlin is just a writer for Casino City Times and "Casino City is an independent directory and information service free of any gaming operator's control." Did Catlin design a short yellow submarine just for you?

In all fairness to Catlin, he does write some informative gaming articles intended for people with low gaming IQs.

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"When you can show that your winnings are positively correlated with your "Lottery IQ" and not the number of tickets you purchase, publish your results and become famous."

It's obvious you searched the name Ion Saliu AFTER I mentioned I knew who he was in my reply to Dr. San. How many of your lottery kindergarten variety statements do you want me to post that proves the lottery IQ of LP drops several notches every time you post?

"It's incredible that you would accept the self serving garbage produced by system software salespeople like Gail Howard and Ion Saliu,"

Did you forget to give at least one example of me tauting Howard or Saliu's systems, miss the article in the daily lottery news "Fla. man wins \$35M lottery jackpot with computer software", or maybe just pretending to ignore it?

Everybody knows you ride short yellow lottery school bus; no need to keep on proving it.

"but reject the work of a mathematician and casino industry consultant like Don Catlin."

From Casino City Times:

"Don Catlin is a retired professor of mathematics and statistics from the University of Massachusetts. His original research area was in Stochastic Estimation applied to submarine navigation problems but has spent the last several years doing gaming analysis for gaming developers and writing about gaming. He is the author of The Lottery Book, The Truth Behind the Numbers published by Bonus books."

Nice try Jimmy, pretending Catlin actually is a consultant to some of the multi-billion dollar gaming corporations. LMAO!

Guess you didn't know that Catlin is just a writer for Casino City Times and "Casino City is an independent directory and information service free of any gaming operator's control." Did Catlin design a short yellow submarine just for you?

In all fairness to Catlin, he does write some informative gaming articles intended for people with low gaming IQs.

I found Ion Saliu's website long before posting the above but it is of no importance.  Apparently, you think that such knowledge adds to your "Lottery IQ."   If you investigated Don Catlin a little further you would learn that, among other things, he IS a consultant.  But that information would NOT add any points to your Lottery IQ.  And since his math is not to your liking, it won't add any points to any other IQ you might possess.

Are you implying that the casino industry makes its money using math principals that disagree with Catlin's?

Rather than try to refute the mathematically sound principals in his books and essays that expose your beliefs about lottery bets as hogwash, you want to contest his current job status.  Oh boy!

And you think I'm ignoring the fact that someone who uses a system won a jackpot.  Really?  What can I say other than to point out that he's not alone.  National stats indicate that around 30% of the winners choose their own numbers.  What do you say when a QuickPick player wins?

You seem very proud of the fact that you have a lot of knowledge of the lottery.  I'm happy for you and concede that you probably know at least 10 times as much as me.  However, about the only way that knowledge will contribute to your financial gain is if you use it to produce lottery software or design ads to entice people to pay you for betting advice.  Design and build a website that competes with LP and you might make a few bucks too.  As far as your ability to increase the Prize Ratio of your lottery bets is concerned, your "Lottery IQ" is worthless!

If you feel you can show Don Catlin's or BlueJay's work to be faulty in any way, you really should hire a ghost writer to help you write a book.  On second thought, the LP type website idea is probably your best bet.

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