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Are there any wheeling systems or wheels available that will generate a wheel using 7 or more single digits without filtering out a duplicate digit.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance. 

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    Are there any wheeling systems or wheels available that will generate a wheel using 7 or more single digits without filtering out a duplicate digit.

    Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance. 

    ? Are you talking Pick3/Pick 4?

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      ? Are you talking Pick3/Pick 4?

      Thanks for responding Raven62,

      Not specifically for Pick3 or Pick 4 but for any single digits from 0-9

      eg. 02458575

      To be able to wheel the digits into as many combinations as it can produce regardless of duplicate digits.

      It can be done paper/pencil but proves to be overly time consuming.

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        Thanks for responding Raven62,

        Not specifically for Pick3 or Pick 4 but for any single digits from 0-9

        eg. 02458575

        To be able to wheel the digits into as many combinations as it can produce regardless of duplicate digits.

        It can be done paper/pencil but proves to be overly time consuming.

        Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

        Numbers: 8 (02458575)
        Pick: 3
        Guarantee: 3
        Condition: 3
        Combinations: 56

        024
        025
        028
        025
        027
        025
        045
        048
        045
        047
        045
        058
        055
        057
        055
        085
        087
        085
        057
        055
        075
        245
        248
        245
        247
        245
        258
        255
        257
        255
        285
        287
        285
        257
        255
        275
        458
        455
        457
        455
        485
        487
        485
        457
        455
        475
        585
        587
        585
        557
        555
        575
        857
        855
        875
        575

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          Thanks for responding Raven62,

          Not specifically for Pick3 or Pick 4 but for any single digits from 0-9

          eg. 02458575

          To be able to wheel the digits into as many combinations as it can produce regardless of duplicate digits.

          It can be done paper/pencil but proves to be overly time consuming.

          Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

          Numbers: 8 (02458575)
          Pick: 4
          Guarantee: 4
          Condition: 4
          Combinations: 70

          0245
          0248
          0245
          0247
          0245
          0258
          0255
          0257
          0255
          0285
          0287
          0285
          0257
          0255
          0275
          0458
          0455
          0457
          0455
          0485
          0487
          0485
          0457
          0455
          0475
          0585
          0587
          0585
          0557
          0555
          0575
          0857
          0855
          0875
          0575
          2458
          2455
          2457
          2455
          2485
          2487
          2485
          2457
          2455
          2475
          2585
          2587
          2585
          2557
          2555
          2575
          2857
          2855
          2875
          2575
          4585
          4587
          4585
          4557
          4555
          4575
          4857
          4855
          4875
          4575
          5857
          5855
          5875
          5575
          8575

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            Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

            Numbers: 8 (02458575)
            Pick: 4
            Guarantee: 4
            Condition: 4
            Combinations: 70

            0245
            0248
            0245
            0247
            0245
            0258
            0255
            0257
            0255
            0285
            0287
            0285
            0257
            0255
            0275
            0458
            0455
            0457
            0455
            0485
            0487
            0485
            0457
            0455
            0475
            0585
            0587
            0585
            0557
            0555
            0575
            0857
            0855
            0875
            0575
            2458
            2455
            2457
            2455
            2485
            2487
            2485
            2457
            2455
            2475
            2585
            2587
            2585
            2557
            2555
            2575
            2857
            2855
            2875
            2575
            4585
            4587
            4585
            4557
            4555
            4575
            4857
            4855
            4875
            4575
            5857
            5855
            5875
            5575
            8575

            Thanks Raven62,

            This is not the wheel that I need.

            The Ininuga Pick 3 is only capable of wheeling only 3 digits at a time. 

            and Ininuga Pick 4 is only capable of wheeling only 4 digits at a time.

            Those are only limited to 3 & 4 digits. 

            I'm looking for a string wheel that will produce 7 or 8 single digits without filtering out any duplicate digit.

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              Thanks Raven62,

              This is not the wheel that I need.

              The Ininuga Pick 3 is only capable of wheeling only 3 digits at a time. 

              and Ininuga Pick 4 is only capable of wheeling only 4 digits at a time.

              Those are only limited to 3 & 4 digits. 

              I'm looking for a string wheel that will produce 7 or 8 single digits without filtering out any duplicate digit.

              Give an example please!

              Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

              Numbers: 10 (0957565432)
              Pick: 5
              Guarantee: 5
              Condition: 5
              Combinations: 252

              09575
              09576
              09575
              09574
              09573
              09572
              09556
              09555
              09554
              09553
              09552
              09565
              09564
              09563
              09562
              09554
              09553
              09552
              09543
              09542
              09532
              09756
              09755
              09754
              09753
              09752
              09765
              09764
              09763
              09762
              09754
              09753
              09752
              09743
              09742
              09732
              09565
              09564
              09563
              09562
              09554
              09553
              09552
              09543
              09542
              09532
              09654
              09653
              09652
              09643
              09642
              09632
              09543
              09542
              09532
              09432
              05756
              05755
              05754
              05753
              05752
              05765
              05764
              05763
              05762
              05754
              05753
              05752
              05743
              05742
              05732
              05565
              05564
              05563
              05562
              05554
              05553
              05552
              05543
              05542
              05532
              05654
              05653
              05652
              05643
              05642
              05632
              05543
              05542
              05532
              05432
              07565
              07564
              07563
              07562
              07554
              07553
              07552
              07543
              07542
              07532
              07654
              07653
              07652
              07643
              07642
              07632
              07543
              07542
              07532
              07432
              05654
              05653
              05652
              05643
              05642
              05632
              05543
              05542
              05532
              05432
              06543
              06542
              06532
              06432
              05432
              95756
              95755
              95754
              95753
              95752
              95765
              95764
              95763
              95762
              95754
              95753
              95752
              95743
              95742
              95732
              95565
              95564
              95563
              95562
              95554
              95553
              95552
              95543
              95542
              95532
              95654
              95653
              95652
              95643
              95642
              95632
              95543
              95542
              95532
              95432
              97565
              97564
              97563
              97562
              97554
              97553
              97552
              97543
              97542
              97532
              97654
              97653
              97652
              97643
              97642
              97632
              97543
              97542
              97532
              97432
              95654
              95653
              95652
              95643
              95642
              95632
              95543
              95542
              95532
              95432
              96543
              96542
              96532
              96432
              95432
              57565
              57564
              57563
              57562
              57554
              57553
              57552
              57543
              57542
              57532
              57654
              57653
              57652
              57643
              57642
              57632
              57543
              57542
              57532
              57432
              55654
              55653
              55652
              55643
              55642
              55632
              55543
              55542
              55532
              55432
              56543
              56542
              56532
              56432
              55432
              75654
              75653
              75652
              75643
              75642
              75632
              75543
              75542
              75532
              75432
              76543
              76542
              76532
              76432
              75432
              56543
              56542
              56532
              56432
              55432
              65432

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                Give an example please!

                Ininuga - Lotto Wheels, by Uros Boltin

                Numbers: 10 (0957565432)
                Pick: 5
                Guarantee: 5
                Condition: 5
                Combinations: 252

                09575
                09576
                09575
                09574
                09573
                09572
                09556
                09555
                09554
                09553
                09552
                09565
                09564
                09563
                09562
                09554
                09553
                09552
                09543
                09542
                09532
                09756
                09755
                09754
                09753
                09752
                09765
                09764
                09763
                09762
                09754
                09753
                09752
                09743
                09742
                09732
                09565
                09564
                09563
                09562
                09554
                09553
                09552
                09543
                09542
                09532
                09654
                09653
                09652
                09643
                09642
                09632
                09543
                09542
                09532
                09432
                05756
                05755
                05754
                05753
                05752
                05765
                05764
                05763
                05762
                05754
                05753
                05752
                05743
                05742
                05732
                05565
                05564
                05563
                05562
                05554
                05553
                05552
                05543
                05542
                05532
                05654
                05653
                05652
                05643
                05642
                05632
                05543
                05542
                05532
                05432
                07565
                07564
                07563
                07562
                07554
                07553
                07552
                07543
                07542
                07532
                07654
                07653
                07652
                07643
                07642
                07632
                07543
                07542
                07532
                07432
                05654
                05653
                05652
                05643
                05642
                05632
                05543
                05542
                05532
                05432
                06543
                06542
                06532
                06432
                05432
                95756
                95755
                95754
                95753
                95752
                95765
                95764
                95763
                95762
                95754
                95753
                95752
                95743
                95742
                95732
                95565
                95564
                95563
                95562
                95554
                95553
                95552
                95543
                95542
                95532
                95654
                95653
                95652
                95643
                95642
                95632
                95543
                95542
                95532
                95432
                97565
                97564
                97563
                97562
                97554
                97553
                97552
                97543
                97542
                97532
                97654
                97653
                97652
                97643
                97642
                97632
                97543
                97542
                97532
                97432
                95654
                95653
                95652
                95643
                95642
                95632
                95543
                95542
                95532
                95432
                96543
                96542
                96532
                96432
                95432
                57565
                57564
                57563
                57562
                57554
                57553
                57552
                57543
                57542
                57532
                57654
                57653
                57652
                57643
                57642
                57632
                57543
                57542
                57532
                57432
                55654
                55653
                55652
                55643
                55642
                55632
                55543
                55542
                55532
                55432
                56543
                56542
                56532
                56432
                55432
                75654
                75653
                75652
                75643
                75642
                75632
                75543
                75542
                75532
                75432
                76543
                76542
                76532
                76432
                75432
                56543
                56542
                56532
                56432
                55432
                65432

                Example: 2595

                Result should be

                Set #                               Combinations
                1                                      5-5-2-9
                2                                      5-5-9-2
                3                                      5-2-5-9
                4                                      5-2-9-5
                5                                      5-9-5-2
                6                                      5-9-2-5
                7                                      2-5-5-9
                8                                      2-5-9-5
                9                                      2-9-5-5
                10                                    9-5-5-2
                11                                    9-5-2-5
                12                                    9-2-5-5


                Total # combinations: 12

                So if I plug in 7 digits I want to be able to wheel the 7 digits to obtain all of the various combinations from the set of 7 digits including duplicate digits.

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                  Example: 2595

                  Result should be

                  Set #                               Combinations
                  1                                      5-5-2-9
                  2                                      5-5-9-2
                  3                                      5-2-5-9
                  4                                      5-2-9-5
                  5                                      5-9-5-2
                  6                                      5-9-2-5
                  7                                      2-5-5-9
                  8                                      2-5-9-5
                  9                                      2-9-5-5
                  10                                    9-5-5-2
                  11                                    9-5-2-5
                  12                                    9-2-5-5


                  Total # combinations: 12

                  So if I plug in 7 digits I want to be able to wheel the 7 digits to obtain all of the various combinations from the set of 7 digits including duplicate digits.

                  Your example is a Permutation rather than a Wheel.

                  FYI: A 7-digit Permutation=5040 Combinations

                  Here's a 5-digit Permutation: (120 combinations)

                  ABCDE
                  ABCED
                  ABDCE
                  ABDEC
                  ABECD
                  ABEDC
                  ACBDE
                  ACBED
                  ACDBE
                  ACDEB
                  ACEBD
                  ACEDB
                  ADBCE
                  ADBEC
                  ADCBE
                  ADCEB
                  ADEBC
                  ADECB
                  AEBCD
                  AEBDC
                  AECBD
                  AECDB
                  AEDBC
                  AEDCB
                  BACDE
                  BACED
                  BADCE
                  BADEC
                  BAECD
                  BAEDC
                  BCADE
                  BCAED
                  BCDAE
                  BCDEA
                  BCEAD
                  BCEDA
                  BDACE
                  BDAEC
                  BDCAE
                  BDCEA
                  BDEAC
                  BDECA
                  BEACD
                  BEADC
                  BECAD
                  BECDA
                  BEDAC
                  BEDCA
                  CABDE
                  CABED
                  CADBE
                  CADEB
                  CAEBD
                  CAEDB
                  CBADE
                  CBAED
                  CBDAE
                  CBDEA
                  CBEAD
                  CBEDA
                  CDABE
                  CDAEB
                  CDBAE
                  CDBEA
                  CDEAB
                  CDEBA
                  CEABD
                  CEADB
                  CEBAD
                  CEBDA
                  CEDAB
                  CEDBA
                  DABCE
                  DABEC
                  DACBE
                  DACEB
                  DAEBC
                  DAECB
                  DBACE
                  DBAEC
                  DBCAE
                  DBCEA
                  DBEAC
                  DBECA
                  DCABE
                  DCAEB
                  DCBAE
                  DCBEA
                  DCEAB
                  DCEBA
                  DEABC
                  DEACB
                  DEBAC
                  DEBCA
                  DECAB
                  DECBA
                  EABCD
                  EABDC
                  EACBD
                  EACDB
                  EADBC
                  EADCB
                  EBACD
                  EBADC
                  EBCAD
                  EBCDA
                  EBDAC
                  EBDCA
                  ECABD
                  ECADB
                  ECBAD
                  ECBDA
                  ECDAB
                  ECDBA
                  EDABC
                  EDACB
                  EDBAC
                  EDBCA
                  EDCAB
                  EDCBA

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                    When the Maybells Quik Wheel is set to Pick-4 Straight Force Doubles for 2-5-9 you get . . .

                    1: 2222
                    2: 2225
                    3: 2229
                    4: 2252
                    5: 2255
                    6: 2259
                    7: 2292
                    8: 2295
                    9: 2299
                    10: 2522
                    11: 2525
                    12: 2529
                    13: 2552
                    14: 2555
                    15: 2559
                    16: 2592
                    17: 2595
                    18: 2599
                    19: 2922
                    20: 2925
                    21: 2929
                    22: 2952
                    23: 2955
                    24: 2959
                    25: 2992
                    26: 2995
                    27: 2999
                    28: 5222
                    29: 5225
                    30: 5229
                    31: 5252
                    32: 5255
                    33: 5259
                    34: 5292
                    35: 5295
                    36: 5299
                    37: 5522
                    38: 5525
                    39: 5529
                    40: 5552
                    41: 5555
                    42: 5559
                    43: 5592
                    44: 5595
                    45: 5599
                    46: 5922
                    47: 5925
                    48: 5929
                    49: 5952
                    50: 5955
                    51: 5959
                    52: 5992
                    53: 5995
                    54: 5999
                    55: 9222
                    56: 9225
                    57: 9229
                    58: 9252
                    59: 9255
                    60: 9259
                    61: 9292
                    62: 9295
                    63: 9299
                    64: 9522
                    65: 9525
                    66: 9529
                    67: 9552
                    68: 9555
                    69: 9559
                    70: 9592
                    71: 9595
                    72: 9599
                    73: 9922
                    74: 9925
                    75: 9929
                    76: 9952
                    77: 9955
                    78: 9959
                    79: 9992
                    80: 9995
                    81: 9999

                    You could scratch out the triples and quads if you don't want them.  It won't put more then four digits in a combination.   The Maybells Quik Wheel comes with the Lotto-Logix book or can be found on the Lotto-Logix.com site on the Wheeling Resources page. 

                    BobP

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                      Your example is a Permutation rather than a Wheel.

                      FYI: A 7-digit Permutation=5040 Combinations

                      Here's a 5-digit Permutation: (120 combinations)

                      ABCDE
                      ABCED
                      ABDCE
                      ABDEC
                      ABECD
                      ABEDC
                      ACBDE
                      ACBED
                      ACDBE
                      ACDEB
                      ACEBD
                      ACEDB
                      ADBCE
                      ADBEC
                      ADCBE
                      ADCEB
                      ADEBC
                      ADECB
                      AEBCD
                      AEBDC
                      AECBD
                      AECDB
                      AEDBC
                      AEDCB
                      BACDE
                      BACED
                      BADCE
                      BADEC
                      BAECD
                      BAEDC
                      BCADE
                      BCAED
                      BCDAE
                      BCDEA
                      BCEAD
                      BCEDA
                      BDACE
                      BDAEC
                      BDCAE
                      BDCEA
                      BDEAC
                      BDECA
                      BEACD
                      BEADC
                      BECAD
                      BECDA
                      BEDAC
                      BEDCA
                      CABDE
                      CABED
                      CADBE
                      CADEB
                      CAEBD
                      CAEDB
                      CBADE
                      CBAED
                      CBDAE
                      CBDEA
                      CBEAD
                      CBEDA
                      CDABE
                      CDAEB
                      CDBAE
                      CDBEA
                      CDEAB
                      CDEBA
                      CEABD
                      CEADB
                      CEBAD
                      CEBDA
                      CEDAB
                      CEDBA
                      DABCE
                      DABEC
                      DACBE
                      DACEB
                      DAEBC
                      DAECB
                      DBACE
                      DBAEC
                      DBCAE
                      DBCEA
                      DBEAC
                      DBECA
                      DCABE
                      DCAEB
                      DCBAE
                      DCBEA
                      DCEAB
                      DCEBA
                      DEABC
                      DEACB
                      DEBAC
                      DEBCA
                      DECAB
                      DECBA
                      EABCD
                      EABDC
                      EACBD
                      EACDB
                      EADBC
                      EADCB
                      EBACD
                      EBADC
                      EBCAD
                      EBCDA
                      EBDAC
                      EBDCA
                      ECABD
                      ECADB
                      ECBAD
                      ECBDA
                      ECDAB
                      ECDBA
                      EDABC
                      EDACB
                      EDBAC
                      EDBCA
                      EDCAB
                      EDCBA

                      Raven62, Good looking out, the Permutation is exactly what I need, did not know what to call it or just could not descibe it as such.

                      Thank you so much for researching this for me, I truly appreciate it. 

                      Would you happen to know where I could obtain such a softwares?

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                        When the Maybells Quik Wheel is set to Pick-4 Straight Force Doubles for 2-5-9 you get . . .

                        1: 2222
                        2: 2225
                        3: 2229
                        4: 2252
                        5: 2255
                        6: 2259
                        7: 2292
                        8: 2295
                        9: 2299
                        10: 2522
                        11: 2525
                        12: 2529
                        13: 2552
                        14: 2555
                        15: 2559
                        16: 2592
                        17: 2595
                        18: 2599
                        19: 2922
                        20: 2925
                        21: 2929
                        22: 2952
                        23: 2955
                        24: 2959
                        25: 2992
                        26: 2995
                        27: 2999
                        28: 5222
                        29: 5225
                        30: 5229
                        31: 5252
                        32: 5255
                        33: 5259
                        34: 5292
                        35: 5295
                        36: 5299
                        37: 5522
                        38: 5525
                        39: 5529
                        40: 5552
                        41: 5555
                        42: 5559
                        43: 5592
                        44: 5595
                        45: 5599
                        46: 5922
                        47: 5925
                        48: 5929
                        49: 5952
                        50: 5955
                        51: 5959
                        52: 5992
                        53: 5995
                        54: 5999
                        55: 9222
                        56: 9225
                        57: 9229
                        58: 9252
                        59: 9255
                        60: 9259
                        61: 9292
                        62: 9295
                        63: 9299
                        64: 9522
                        65: 9525
                        66: 9529
                        67: 9552
                        68: 9555
                        69: 9559
                        70: 9592
                        71: 9595
                        72: 9599
                        73: 9922
                        74: 9925
                        75: 9929
                        76: 9952
                        77: 9955
                        78: 9959
                        79: 9992
                        80: 9995
                        81: 9999

                        You could scratch out the triples and quads if you don't want them.  It won't put more then four digits in a combination.   The Maybells Quik Wheel comes with the Lotto-Logix book or can be found on the Lotto-Logix.com site on the Wheeling Resources page. 

                        BobP

                        Thanks for responding BobP, 

                        Raven62 has brought to light that I actuall need a software that is capable of generating Premutation numbers, so my quest is to now find that software.

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                          Thanks for responding BobP, 

                          Raven62 has brought to light that I actuall need a software that is capable of generating Premutation numbers, so my quest is to now find that software.


                          You said Raven62 had generated what you wanted, but his wheel does not have your duplicates.

                          I realize you are likely constructing a strategy for a particular game you'd rather we all not start winning and close down.  On the other hand the ony way you are likely to get help finding what you want is to point to a game and explain what you are trying to do to win it. 

                          Advanced Lotto Tool can make a 10 ball lottery with 3-9 balls drawn, but no duplicates and you have to use 10 as zero in the full wheels it auto makes from the game size and your digit picks.

                          CoverMaster can make a 10 ball lottery with 3-7 balls drawn, but no duplicates 10 is 0 and the guarantee is one prize tier less then jackpot like 

                          Pool 10
                          Pick 7
                          Match 6
                          Hits 7

                           1  2  3  4  5  6  7
                           1  2  3  4  5  6 10
                           1  2  6  7  8  9 10
                           1  3  4  5  6  7 10
                           1  3  4  5  6  8  9
                           2  3  4  7  8  9 10
                           2  3  5  7  8  9 10
                           2  4  5  7  8  9 10

                           Match 6 of 7 takes a lot fewer combinations if you can work that way.  If so there might be some keno wheels you could use.

                          The sticking point is your need to allow for duplicate digits, not a lot of call for that.

                          You could try a google for the game's name or other games of the same format and lottery software, see if someone's software already works with it or the like, maybe a Canadian game, etc.

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                            Raven62, Good looking out, the Permutation is exactly what I need, did not know what to call it or just could not descibe it as such.

                            Thank you so much for researching this for me, I truly appreciate it. 

                            Would you happen to know where I could obtain such a softwares?

                            Permutation: To rearrange the order of a sequence of elements.

                            They don't say: A picture (example) is worth a thousand words for nothing!

                            Once you have the skeleton in alphabetic format that you want: You can use the replace function of a text editor (UltraEdit) to change the letters to numbers:

                            Example using: 95756 (then sorting & removing duplicates):

                            55679
                            55697
                            55769
                            55796
                            55967
                            55976
                            56579
                            56597
                            56759
                            56795
                            56957
                            56975
                            57569
                            57596
                            57659
                            57695
                            57956
                            57965
                            59567
                            59576
                            59657
                            59675
                            59756
                            59765
                            65579
                            65597
                            65759
                            65795
                            65957
                            65975
                            67559
                            67595
                            67955
                            69557
                            69575
                            69755
                            75569
                            75596
                            75659
                            75695
                            75956
                            75965
                            76559
                            76595
                            76955
                            79556
                            79565
                            79655
                            95567
                            95576
                            95657
                            95675
                            95756
                            95765
                            96557
                            96575
                            96755
                            97556
                            97565
                            97655

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                              You said Raven62 had generated what you wanted, but his wheel does not have your duplicates.

                              I realize you are likely constructing a strategy for a particular game you'd rather we all not start winning and close down.  On the other hand the ony way you are likely to get help finding what you want is to point to a game and explain what you are trying to do to win it. 

                              Advanced Lotto Tool can make a 10 ball lottery with 3-9 balls drawn, but no duplicates and you have to use 10 as zero in the full wheels it auto makes from the game size and your digit picks.

                              CoverMaster can make a 10 ball lottery with 3-7 balls drawn, but no duplicates 10 is 0 and the guarantee is one prize tier less then jackpot like 

                              Pool 10
                              Pick 7
                              Match 6
                              Hits 7

                               1  2  3  4  5  6  7
                               1  2  3  4  5  6 10
                               1  2  6  7  8  9 10
                               1  3  4  5  6  7 10
                               1  3  4  5  6  8  9
                               2  3  4  7  8  9 10
                               2  3  5  7  8  9 10
                               2  4  5  7  8  9 10

                               Match 6 of 7 takes a lot fewer combinations if you can work that way.  If so there might be some keno wheels you could use.

                              The sticking point is your need to allow for duplicate digits, not a lot of call for that.

                              You could try a google for the game's name or other games of the same format and lottery software, see if someone's software already works with it or the like, maybe a Canadian game, etc.

                              BobP

                              I realize you are likely constructing a strategy for a particular game you'd rather we all not start winning and close down. 

                              LOL... 

                              Hi BobP,

                              Raven62 didn't generate what I needed, he enlightened me that what I actually needed was a Permutation and not a wheel. 

                              I found an Advance Permutation Generator online, however it repeats the whole sequence more than once thus providing double total combinations.

                              eg. Digits entered 225

                              Result:

                              225
                              225
                              252
                              252
                              522
                              522

                              The generator should of only giving a 3 line result of 225-252-522, but instead gave 6 lines of which is a repeat that I don't need. I tried it with 4 digits and it did the same thing also.

                              The list below was taken from the result after putting in these digits: 1245462 

                              1245462
                              2145462
                              2415462
                              2451462
                              2454162
                              2454612
                              2454621
                              1425462
                              4125462
                              4215462
                              4251462
                              4254162
                              4254612
                              4254621
                              1542462
                              5142462
                              5412462
                              5421462
                              5424162
                              5424612
                              5424621
                              1445262
                              4145262
                              4415262
                              4451262
                              4452162
                              4452612
                              4452621
                              1645422
                              6145422
                              6415422
                              6451422
                              6454122
                              6454212
                              6454221
                              1245462
                              2145462
                              2415462
                              2451462
                              2454162
                              2454612
                              2454621
                              1254462
                              2154462
                              2514462
                              2541462
                              2544162
                              2544612
                              2544621
                              1245462
                              2145462
                              2415462
                              2451462

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