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All groups are not equal ...at least they don't play that way.

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                             7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

                                                 All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

 

 Math says.....they are equal.

                       I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.


                   OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups  always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak." 

                                                                                 Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

                                                        It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL         

 

 

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                              Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                              Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                       Win d    

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                                 7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

                                                     All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

     

     Math says.....they are equal.

                           I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.


                       OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups  always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak." 

                                                                                     Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

                                                            It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL         

    More Hits Occur in the Sum Range: 09 --> 18 (6 out of 10 are in that Range)
    More Hits Occur in MLME=0, MLMO=2, MHME=2, MHMO=0 Groups

    ============
    Cmb LHEO Sum
    ============
    012 ALME 03
    019 MLMO 10
    089 MHME 17
    123 ALMO 06
    234 ALME 09
    345 MLMO 12
    456 MHME 15
    567 AHMO 18
    678 AHME 21
    789 AHMO 24
    ============

    A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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      Posted: October 15, 2011, 12:44 am - IP Logged

      Combine them.

       

      All ODD + ALL EVEN 

       

      Works even better in pick 4. HHLL+OOEE.

       

      Conehead

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         I wish I had the ability to run a test on this ....."consecutive straights number" group. 

         I am almost sure it will end up at the end of a year in any given game......  with the expected amount of hits .....and with as many hits as any of the other groups.

         When ever I used to have the time to look into these strange things...... they always end up keeping pretty close to their math expectations.

         

         What I think is at work here with this consecutive group is "clumping."

         I don't have the ability to perform the right test to prove my theory... but I know that it can be done. Years ago when I used to go on long "number group" hunting and research trips ...LOL    ...... I ran across some special test for just such a premise.

         

        In particular..... the "clumping" concept I mentioned is measured by some sort of spectral test. Loosely speaking...... a spectral test is in
        dimension n and measures the distribution of "n samples in a row"
        It is supposed to be a good test for easily weeding out this sort of thing and should be simple thing to do by someone who knows it.
        Perhaps good old Mr. JADE is the only person around here I know that can pull it off....... I sure can't.

        All I know is ... I hate "Clumping" it keeps me poor. If it wasn't for clumping I would be rich.

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

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          You always find these gems WIN D.

          It may sound weird, but its in the NATURE of those consecuitives to hit like they do. Its the quality of those numbers rather than the quantity that dictate they do so. I kind of wish I could show you the proof, but then I would be showing you some of the nuts and bolts of my system, which is not ready for viewership yet. Nevertheless, there are a few numbers even in that bunch whose nature or rather quality dictate that it show up a little more frequently than the rest. This so called quality even correlates to the 0,3,6,9-digits-following-each-other-peculiarity that you've occasionally brought up.

          Kola

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                                         7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

                                                             All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

             

             Math says.....they are equal.

                                   I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.


                               OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups  always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak." 

                                                                                             Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

                                                                    It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL         

            Hi Win D

            I'm interested!

            How did you come up with those numbers, did you check the history of you local lottery and tally?

            I would like to do it for the Pick 4, any suggestions would be great!.  201 came on in sc eve on Monday!

             

            Thanks

            Seachelle

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              Hi Win D

              I'm interested!

              How did you come up with those numbers, did you check the history of you local lottery and tally?

              I would like to do it for the Pick 4, any suggestions would be great!.  201 came on in sc eve on Monday!

               

              Thanks

              Seachelle

              Hi seachelle....  It sounds like KOLA up there actually has all the good stats on this and might share them with us sometime in the future.

                What we do have right now is just the understanding that all these groups average around the same totals by the end of the year at least.

                The only obvious conclusion we must make at this point is.........this group makes a lot of hey while the sun shines at certain times of the year in between those long skips.

               That leads us to the "Clumping" idea.  The "why" part is still the hard part of question and left for us to ponder. They do seem to clump more regularly than the other equal groups.      ?? 

              ]

               

               

              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                     Win d    

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                Posted: October 21, 2011, 11:19 am - IP Logged

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                                             7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

                                                                 All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

                 

                 Math says.....they are equal.

                                       I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.


                                   OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups  always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak." 

                                                                                                 Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

                                                                        It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL         

                Straights have been hitting in Missouri all month, in the pick 3 and the pick 4. Triples coming?

                Wed,   Oct 12, 2011

                midday

                5-7-8-6 

                Wed,   Oct 12, 2011

                evening

                6-7-5-4 

                Thu,   Oct 13, 2011

                midday

                5-6-1-9   -3245 bonus Orange ball. I think it was   with this number.

                 

                 

                 

                 

                Thursday, Oct 20, 2011

                Evening

                9-8-0

                Tuesday, Apr 17, 2012

                 

                Thursday, Oct 20, 2011

                Midday

                5-4-9

                Tuesday, Apr 17, 2012

                 

                Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011

                Evening

                7-2-6

                Monday, Apr 16, 2012

                 

                Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011

                Midday

                3-3-6

                Monday, Apr 16, 2012

                 

                Tuesday, Oct 18, 2011

                Evening

                5-8-3

                Sunday, Apr 15, 2012

                 

                Tuesday, Oct 18, 2011

                Midday

                8-4-7

                Sunday, Apr 15, 2012

                 

                Monday, Oct 17, 2011

                Evening

                9-5-9

                Saturday, Apr 14, 2012

                 

                Monday, Oct 17, 2011

                Midday

                9-8-7 Bonus:3-2-6

                Saturday, Apr 14, 2012

                 

                Sunday, Oct 16, 2011

                Evening

                3-1-2

                Friday, Apr 13, 2012

                 

                Sunday, Oct 16, 2011

                Midday

                5-3-4

                Friday, Apr 13, 2012

                Saturday, Oct 15, 2011

                Evening

                2-8-0

                Thursday, Apr 12, 2012

                 

                Saturday, Oct 15, 2011

                Midday

                2-0-6

                Thursday, Apr 12, 2012

                 

                Friday, Oct 14, 2011

                Evening

                4-5-2

                Wednesday, Apr 11, 2012

                Friday, Oct 14, 2011

                Midday

                5-0-2 Bonus:6-4-3

                Wednesday, Apr 11, 2012

                 I've been wondering what's the meaning of all the straights this month.

                Good Luck.

                The Struggle is real!

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                  Hi seachelle....  It sounds like KOLA up there actually has all the good stats on this and might share them with us sometime in the future.

                    What we do have right now is just the understanding that all these groups average around the same totals by the end of the year at least.

                    The only obvious conclusion we must make at this point is.........this group makes a lot of hey while the sun shines at certain times of the year in between those long skips.

                   That leads us to the "Clumping" idea.  The "why" part is still the hard part of question and left for us to ponder. They do seem to clump more regularly than the other equal groups.      ?? 

                  ]

                  WIN D,

                  I've never kept statistics on anything to do with the lottery. I use arithmetic on the last two draws, or sometimes up to the last 6.

                  Take care,

                  Kola

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                    Hi seachelle....  It sounds like KOLA up there actually has all the good stats on this and might share them with us sometime in the future.

                      What we do have right now is just the understanding that all these groups average around the same totals by the end of the year at least.

                      The only obvious conclusion we must make at this point is.........this group makes a lot of hey while the sun shines at certain times of the year in between those long skips.

                     That leads us to the "Clumping" idea.  The "why" part is still the hard part of question and left for us to ponder. They do seem to clump more regularly than the other equal groups.      ?? 

                    ]

                    When you do a rundown on the other groups: The entire group doesn't appear in the same rundown like Consecutives Do:

                    012
                    123
                    234
                    345
                    456
                    567
                    789
                    890
                    901
                    012

                    A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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                      Hi Raven..... 

                       I might understand what you mean....but maybe not.  Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL   

                       Would you fill in the gaps.   

                       All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives 

                       each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right?  Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

                       Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right?  It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA.  It really surprised me alot.   

                       

                       

                      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                             Win d    

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                        Hi Raven..... 

                         I might understand what you mean....but maybe not.  Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL   

                         Would you fill in the gaps.   

                         All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives 

                         each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right?  Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

                         Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right?  It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA.  It really surprised me alot.   

                        All Even:

                        024 026 028 046 048 068 246 248 268 468
                        135 137 139 157 159 179 357 359 379 579
                        246 248 240 268 260 280 468 460 480 680
                        357 359 351 379 371 391 579 571 591 791
                        468 460 462 480 482 402 680 682 602 802
                        579 571 573 591 593 513 791 793 713 913
                        680 682 684 602 604 624 802 804 824 024
                        791 793 795 713 715 735 913 915 935 135
                        802 804 806 824 826 846 024 026 046 246
                        913 915 917 935 937 957 135 137 157 357
                        024 026 028 046 048 068 246 248 268 468

                        A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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                          Hi Raven..... 

                           I might understand what you mean....but maybe not.  Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL   

                           Would you fill in the gaps.   

                           All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives 

                           each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right?  Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

                           Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right?  It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA.  It really surprised me alot.   

                          All Low:

                          012 013 014 023 024 034 123 124 134 234
                          123 124 125 134 135 145 234 235 245 345
                          234 235 236 245 246 256 345 346 356 456
                          345 346 347 356 357 367 456 457 467 567
                          456 457 458 467 468 478 567 568 578 678
                          567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789
                          678 679 670 689 680 690 789 780 790 890
                          789 780 781 790 791 701 890 891 801 901
                          890 891 892 801 802 812 901 902 912 012
                          901 902 903 912 913 923 012 013 023 123
                          012 013 014 023 024 034 123 124 134 234

                          Consecutivs are part of more than one group!

                          A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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                             Help .....  I thought at first this was the 60 straight versions of "ALL Even" like it says up there.......but then I saw it had a lot of repeat box all evens and included some All odds too so now I am mixed up. 

                             

                             But..... I might be getting close. Let me track them as the " ALL Group "  putting them all together. Put all 7 groups together and see what happens then.  Hmmmm 

                             Thanks Raven !

                             

                             

                            The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                          Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                          Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                                   Win d    

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                              Hi Raven..... 

                               I might understand what you mean....but maybe not.  Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL   

                               Would you fill in the gaps.   

                               All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives 

                               each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right?  Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

                               Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right?  It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA.  It really surprised me alot.   

                              All High:

                              567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789
                              678 679 670 689 680 690 789 780 790 890
                              789 780 781 790 791 701 890 891 801 901
                              890 891 892 801 802 812 901 902 912 012
                              901 902 903 912 913 923 012 013 023 123
                              012 013 014 023 024 034 123 124 134 234
                              123 124 125 134 135 145 234 235 245 345
                              234 235 236 245 246 256 345 346 356 456
                              345 346 347 356 357 367 456 457 467 567
                              456 457 458 467 468 478 567 568 578 678
                              567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789

                              Consecutives appear in more than one group.

                              A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!