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WIN D

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012 019 021 089 091 098 102 109 120 123 132 190 201 210 213 231 234 243 312 321 324 342 345 354 423 432 435 453 456 465 534 543 546 564 567 576 645 654 657 675 678 687 756 765 768 786 789 798 809 867 876 879 890 897 901 908 910 978 980 987

7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

Math says.....they are equal.

I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.

OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak."

Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
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Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 13, 2011
012 019 021 089 091 098 102 109 120 123 132 190 201 210 213 231 234 243 312 321 324 342 345 354 423 432 435 453 456 465 534 543 546 564 567 576 645 654 657 675 678 687 756 765 768 786 789 798 809 867 876 879 890 897 901 908 910 978 980 987

7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

Math says.....they are equal.

I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.

OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak."

Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL

More Hits Occur in the Sum Range: 09 --> 18 (6 out of 10 are in that Range)
More Hits Occur in MLME=0, MLMO=2, MHME=2, MHMO=0 Groups

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Cmb LHEO Sum
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012 ALME 03
019 MLMO 10
089 MHME 17
123 ALMO 06
234 ALME 09
345 MLMO 12
456 MHME 15
567 AHMO 18
678 AHME 21
789 AHMO 24
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Catch-22: A dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

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Oct 15, 2011, 12:44 am

Combine them.

All ODD + ALL EVEN

Works even better in pick 4. HHLL+OOEE.

How you do anything is how you do everything.
WIN D

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I wish I had the ability to run a test on this ....."consecutive straights number" group.

I am almost sure it will end up at the end of a year in any given game...... with the expected amount of hits .....and with as many hits as any of the other groups.

When ever I used to have the time to look into these strange things...... they always end up keeping pretty close to their math expectations.

What I think is at work here with this consecutive group is "clumping."

I don't have the ability to perform the right test to prove my theory... but I know that it can be done. Years ago when I used to go on long "number group" hunting and research trips ...LOL ...... I ran across some special test for just such a premise.
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In particular..... the "clumping" concept I mentioned is measured by some sort of spectral test. Loosely speaking...... a spectral test is in
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dimension n and measures the distribution of "n samples in a row"
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It is supposed to be a good test for easily weeding out this sort of thing and should be simple thing to do by someone who knows it.
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Perhaps good old Mr. JADE is the only person around here I know that can pull it off....... I sure can't.
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All I know is ... I hate "Clumping" it keeps me poor. If it wasn't for clumping I would be rich.
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The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
Kola

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Oct 17, 2011, 11:55 am

You always find these gems WIN D.

It may sound weird, but its in the NATURE of those consecuitives to hit like they do. Its the quality of those numbers rather than the quantity that dictate they do so. I kind of wish I could show you the proof, but then I would be showing you some of the nuts and bolts of my system, which is not ready for viewership yet. Nevertheless, there are a few numbers even in that bunch whose nature or rather quality dictate that it show up a little more frequently than the rest. This so called quality even correlates to the 0,3,6,9-digits-following-each-other-peculiarity that you've occasionally brought up.

Kola

Lottery Lore says "A past draw is the centerpoint of a circle - a black hole. Two overlapping circles whose centerpoints sit on the circumference of the other share a Common Radius. This Radius is a wormhole - it allows both draws (info) to safely travel into and beyond the other draw's event horizon without negative distortion, thereby creating an entanglement (synchrony) between the two communicating draws. This entangled space is the Vesica Piscis - the white hole or Stargate through which the next draw is born."
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Oct 18, 2011, 3:03 pm

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 13, 2011
012 019 021 089 091 098 102 109 120 123 132 190 201 210 213 231 234 243 312 321 324 342 345 354 423 432 435 453 456 465 534 543 546 564 567 576 645 654 657 675 678 687 756 765 768 786 789 798 809 867 876 879 890 897 901 908 910 978 980 987

7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

Math says.....they are equal.

I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.

OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak."

Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL

Hi Win D

I'm interested!

How did you come up with those numbers, did you check the history of you local lottery and tally?

I would like to do it for the Pick 4, any suggestions would be great!. 201 came on in sc eve on Monday!

Thanks

Seachelle
WIN D

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Oct 21, 2011, 10:56 am

Quote: Originally posted by Seachelle on Oct 18, 2011
Hi Win D

I'm interested!

How did you come up with those numbers, did you check the history of you local lottery and tally?

I would like to do it for the Pick 4, any suggestions would be great!. 201 came on in sc eve on Monday!

Thanks

Seachelle

Hi seachelle.... It sounds like KOLA up there actually has all the good stats on this and might share them with us sometime in the future.

What we do have right now is just the understanding that all these groups average around the same totals by the end of the year at least.

The only obvious conclusion we must make at this point is.........this group makes a lot of hey while the sun shines at certain times of the year in between those long skips.

That leads us to the "Clumping" idea. The "why" part is still the hard part of question and left for us to ponder. They do seem to clump more regularly than the other equal groups. ??

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The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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Oct 21, 2011, 11:19 am

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 13, 2011

012 019 021 089 091 098 102 109 120 123 132 190 201 210 213 231 234 243 312 321 324 342 345 354 423 432 435 453 456 465 534 543 546 564 567 576 645 654 657 675 678 687 756 765 768 786 789 798 809 867 876 879 890 897 901 908 910 978 980 987

7 popular groups with the same amount of boxes and Straights...... All hit on average of every 16.66 draws.

All Odd......All Even .......All IN......All Out.... All HIGH .....All LOW ....straights

Math says.....they are equal.

I say ......after about a Million years of playing and scars to prove it......consecutive straights don't play that way.

OK ....trackers you know it's true. Admit it. At any given time we look at the 60 pick 3 games going on in North America..... those darn consecutive groups always seem to be on some sort of "Contrary streak."

Comments ...opinions ...observations ?

It's time to drag this group out of the shadows and into the light of day (profit)... LOL

Straights have been hitting in Missouri all month, in the pick 3 and the pick 4. Triples coming?

Wed, Oct 12, 2011	midday	5-7-8-6
Wed, Oct 12, 2011	evening	6-7-5-4
Thu, Oct 13, 2011	midday	5-6-1-9 -3245 bonus Orange ball. I think it was with this number.

Thursday, Oct 20, 2011	Evening	9-8-0	Tuesday, Apr 17, 2012
Thursday, Oct 20, 2011	Midday	5-4-9	Tuesday, Apr 17, 2012
Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011	Evening	7-2-6	Monday, Apr 16, 2012
Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011	Midday	3-3-6	Monday, Apr 16, 2012
Tuesday, Oct 18, 2011	Evening	5-8-3	Sunday, Apr 15, 2012
Tuesday, Oct 18, 2011	Midday	8-4-7	Sunday, Apr 15, 2012
Monday, Oct 17, 2011	Evening	9-5-9	Saturday, Apr 14, 2012
Monday, Oct 17, 2011	Midday	9-8-7 Bonus:3-2-6	Saturday, Apr 14, 2012
Sunday, Oct 16, 2011	Evening	3-1-2	Friday, Apr 13, 2012
Sunday, Oct 16, 2011	Midday	5-3-4	Friday, Apr 13, 2012
Saturday, Oct 15, 2011	Evening	2-8-0	Thursday, Apr 12, 2012
Saturday, Oct 15, 2011	Midday	2-0-6	Thursday, Apr 12, 2012
Friday, Oct 14, 2011	Evening	4-5-2	Wednesday, Apr 11, 2012
Friday, Oct 14, 2011	Midday	5-0-2 Bonus:6-4-3	Wednesday, Apr 11, 2012

I've been wondering what's the meaning of all the straights this month.

Good Luck.

Missouri pick 3, giving out humble pies!

Kola

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Oct 22, 2011, 9:17 pm

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 21, 2011
Hi seachelle.... It sounds like KOLA up there actually has all the good stats on this and might share them with us sometime in the future.

What we do have right now is just the understanding that all these groups average around the same totals by the end of the year at least.

The only obvious conclusion we must make at this point is.........this group makes a lot of hey while the sun shines at certain times of the year in between those long skips.

That leads us to the "Clumping" idea. The "why" part is still the hard part of question and left for us to ponder. They do seem to clump more regularly than the other equal groups. ??

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WIN D,

I've never kept statistics on anything to do with the lottery. I use arithmetic on the last two draws, or sometimes up to the last 6.

Take care,

Kola

Lottery Lore says "A past draw is the centerpoint of a circle - a black hole. Two overlapping circles whose centerpoints sit on the circumference of the other share a Common Radius. This Radius is a wormhole - it allows both draws (info) to safely travel into and beyond the other draw's event horizon without negative distortion, thereby creating an entanglement (synchrony) between the two communicating draws. This entangled space is the Vesica Piscis - the white hole or Stargate through which the next draw is born."
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Oct 23, 2011, 11:37 am

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 21, 2011
Hi seachelle.... It sounds like KOLA up there actually has all the good stats on this and might share them with us sometime in the future.

What we do have right now is just the understanding that all these groups average around the same totals by the end of the year at least.

The only obvious conclusion we must make at this point is.........this group makes a lot of hey while the sun shines at certain times of the year in between those long skips.

That leads us to the "Clumping" idea. The "why" part is still the hard part of question and left for us to ponder. They do seem to clump more regularly than the other equal groups. ??

]

When you do a rundown on the other groups: The entire group doesn't appear in the same rundown like Consecutives Do:

012
123
234
345
456
567
789
890
901
012

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

Catch-22: A dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges: When the republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous.

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Oct 23, 2011, 1:01 pm

Hi Raven.....

I might understand what you mean....but maybe not. Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL

Would you fill in the gaps.

All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives

each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right? Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right? It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA. It really surprised me alot.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
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Oct 23, 2011, 1:19 pm

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 23, 2011
Hi Raven.....

I might understand what you mean....but maybe not. Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL

Would you fill in the gaps.

All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives

each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right? Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right? It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA. It really surprised me alot.

All Even:

024 026 028 046 048 068 246 248 268 468
135 137 139 157 159 179 357 359 379 579
246 248 240 268 260 280 468 460 480 680
357 359 351 379 371 391 579 571 591 791
468 460 462 480 482 402 680 682 602 802
579 571 573 591 593 513 791 793 713 913
680 682 684 602 604 624 802 804 824 024
791 793 795 713 715 735 913 915 935 135
802 804 806 824 826 846 024 026 046 246
913 915 917 935 937 957 135 137 157 357
024 026 028 046 048 068 246 248 268 468

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

Catch-22: A dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges: When the republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous.

The best way to learn is to never stop being an Experiential Student!
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Oct 23, 2011, 1:31 pm

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 23, 2011
Hi Raven.....

I might understand what you mean....but maybe not. Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL

Would you fill in the gaps.

All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives

each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right? Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right? It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA. It really surprised me alot.

All Low:

012 013 014 023 024 034 123 124 134 234
123 124 125 134 135 145 234 235 245 345
234 235 236 245 246 256 345 346 356 456
345 346 347 356 357 367 456 457 467 567
456 457 458 467 468 478 567 568 578 678
567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789
678 679 670 689 680 690 789 780 790 890
789 780 781 790 791 701 890 891 801 901
890 891 892 801 802 812 901 902 912 012
901 902 903 912 913 923 012 013 023 123
012 013 014 023 024 034 123 124 134 234

Consecutivs are part of more than one group!

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

Catch-22: A dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges: When the republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous.

The best way to learn is to never stop being an Experiential Student!
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Oct 23, 2011, 1:33 pm

Help ..... I thought at first this was the 60 straight versions of "ALL Even" like it says up there.......but then I saw it had a lot of repeat box all evens and included some All odds too so now I am mixed up.

But..... I might be getting close. Let me track them as the " ALL Group " putting them all together. Put all 7 groups together and see what happens then. Hmmmm

Thanks Raven !

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d
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Oct 23, 2011, 1:42 pm

Quote: Originally posted by WIN D on Oct 23, 2011
Hi Raven.....

I might understand what you mean....but maybe not. Do you mean ...... well ...maybe you could explain it better than I could ask it. LOL

Would you fill in the gaps.

All even........ All odd....... All in......... All out........ All High........ All Low.......... All consecutives

each of the 7 groups has 10 box singles or 60 straights right? Equal right ......at least in number of box and straight numbers.

Expected hit rate ...at least math wise is 16.66 for each right? It just seems like the consecutive group clumps together more often than the others. Although at the end of the year it could actually end up as the HIT LEADER for the year.... which is what has happened in GA. It really surprised me alot.

All High:

567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789
678 679 670 689 680 690 789 780 790 890
789 780 781 790 791 701 890 891 801 901
890 891 892 801 802 812 901 902 912 012
901 902 903 912 913 923 012 013 023 123
012 013 014 023 024 034 123 124 134 234
123 124 125 134 135 145 234 235 245 345
234 235 236 245 246 256 345 346 356 456
345 346 347 356 357 367 456 457 467 567
456 457 458 467 468 478 567 568 578 678
567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789

Consecutives appear in more than one group.

A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

Catch-22: A dilemma or difficult circumstance from which there is no escape because of mutually conflicting or dependent conditions.

Corruptissima re publica plurimae leges: When the republic is at its most corrupt the laws are most numerous.

The best way to learn is to never stop being an Experiential Student!

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