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Quote: Originally posted by Feisty1 on Mar 10, 2012

I'm trying something different and going with two wheels in an effort to keep things tight. I grouped them by companion pairs/triads. Let's see how they do ...

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Quote: Originally posted by jackpotismine on Mar 11, 2012

Same set for 3/12.

Dam you '9'!!!!!!! Ha..ha.

JP -

I've been watching your set of 23 numbers. I check what I picked and played against your set, and invariably the lines I play typically contain at least 3, and many times 4 numbers included in your set of 23. I havent picked/played 5 out of the 23 yet, but I think that'll probably happen.

For instance, tonite I'm playing a total of 5 lines. 3 lines have 3 of your 23 numbers, and 2 of my lines have 4 of your 23. I didnt look at your set of 23 until after I picked the numbers I wanted to play.

How often do you make changes to your set of 23? While I dont really wheel numbers, there definitely is a method to my madness when it comes to picking numbers to play.

One number I played tonite isnt in your set. I liked/played "1" for tonite. It was last drawn 13 drawings ago, and in the last 39 drawings, it's only been drawn 3 times. What is it that you dont like about it?

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Quote: Originally posted by Feisty1 on Mar 12, 2012

Congrats on your win! While it sucks to miss by one being so close, that's a real sweet payout for 4#s! Whoo hoo now off to the claim office!

Agree Feisty1. In my previous sets there were 4 numbers and the other number was off by one. It happens more than you know but a win is a win and it gives you a chance to play some more on their dime. Congrats too!

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Quote: Originally posted by GiveFive on Mar 12, 2012

JP -

I've been watching your set of 23 numbers. I check what I picked and played against your set, and invariably the lines I play typically contain at least 3, and many times 4 numbers included in your set of 23. I havent picked/played 5 out of the 23 yet, but I think that'll probably happen.

For instance, tonite I'm playing a total of 5 lines. 3 lines have 3 of your 23 numbers, and 2 of my lines have 4 of your 23. I didnt look at your set of 23 until after I picked the numbers I wanted to play.

How often do you make changes to your set of 23? While I dont really wheel numbers, there definitely is a method to my madness when it comes to picking numbers to play.

One number I played tonite isnt in your set. I liked/played "1" for tonite. It was last drawn 13 drawings ago, and in the last 39 drawings, it's only been drawn 3 times. What is it that you dont like about it?

The set of 23 numbers is fixed. These numbers are based on these numbers 0,3,6,9.

Here is the breakdown:Any number that has a 'zero' in it ; 0=10,20,30 or any number when combine give you a ten's. For example: 19= 1+9=10, 28=2+8=10, and so on.

3's.Any number that has a 3 in it's tenth column or when added together gives you a 3. Example: 13,23,33,.

6's.Any number that has a 6 in it's tenth column or when added together gives you a 6. Example: 16,36,etc,.

9's.Same goes for 9. 9,27=2+7=9,29,etc.

So basically if it contains a 0,3,6,9 or adds up to any of these then it's include. That's how I got the 23 numbers for a 39 Pick 5 game. For the larger games like Lotto or Mega, it would be the same but would be much more numbers. I thought about this based on the 'old man zero trick' theory. I believe that wheeling your numbers is the best method however I don't think having power numbers is the best wheeling scheme but it is probably the cheapest. If you can use a wheel that uses no power number but gives you a guarantee win of 5 of 5 then I would use that. It would probably cost too much. As I said to Feisty1, if you just use these numbers and do your workout as if the Take 5 has ONLY these numbers and study the patterns and trends, you will hit 4 of 5 more often then not. Most people/players just want an easy way to hit but the fact is that you have to follow patterns and trends and do your homework. You can eliminate some of the numbers easily. So instead of 23 you can probably just work with 16 to 18 numbers if you eliminate numbers that are cold, hot, repeats, 10's, and so on. That's it.

Sorry for being so long winded. (That's why when people ask me how I chose these numbers I usually say do a search)

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Okay let's try it this way. Below there are two sets of numbers. Set AONLY uses numbers from the 23 numbers from my tag line below.( By the way, 4 numbers from the 23 numbers came out again.) Set B uses all the 39 numbers. Let's see if there is more sucess with this method. I will use the same power numbers. The power numbers will be from the 23 number set not from the other numbers. In this way you can pick set A or B to play if you think more numbers from my 23 set will come out. I don't expect anybody to play all 20 lines unless you have the money or have a strong feeling. Good Luck with this new approach.(I'm using Gail Howard old DOS program so excuse the ? marks that show up. Ha.ha.

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Quote: Originally posted by jackpotismine on Mar 13, 2012

Okay let's try it this way. Below there are two sets of numbers. Set AONLY uses numbers from the 23 numbers from my tag line below.( By the way, 4 numbers from the 23 numbers came out again.) Set B uses all the 39 numbers. Let's see if there is more sucess with this method. I will use the same power numbers. The power numbers will be from the 23 number set not from the other numbers. In this way you can pick set A or B to play if you think more numbers from my 23 set will come out. I don't expect anybody to play all 20 lines unless you have the money or have a strong feeling. Good Luck with this new approach.(I'm using Gail Howard old DOS program so excuse the ? marks that show up. Ha.ha.

New Sets for 3/13: Power Numbers are 3 & 6:

GOOD LUCK TO THOSE WHO PLAY!

Jackpotismine you might want to double check Set B because all 39 is not in that set ... unless you didn't paste the entire output.

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Quote: Originally posted by Feisty1 on Mar 13, 2012

Jackpotismine you might want to double check Set B because all 39 is not in that set ... unless you didn't paste the entire output.

No it's right. Set B will include some of the numbers from the 39 (in other words what excluded from the 39). In short I will consider ALL the numbers in Set B. I'm not saying that I am going to play all 39 in a wheel(though that's what I wrote) Ha.ha. Set B has a mix of the 23 and the rest of the number pool of 39.

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Quote: Originally posted by jackpotismine on Mar 13, 2012

No it's right. Set B will include some of the numbers from the 39 (in other words what excluded from the 39). In short I will consider ALL the numbers in Set B. I'm not saying that I am going to play all 39 in a wheel(though that's what I wrote) Ha.ha. Set B has a mix of the 23 and the rest of the number pool of 39.

Ok, I get it now. I was like hey do I need glasses cause there's a whole lot of numbers missing if all 39 is in that group! Heehee. Interesting...

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Quote: Originally posted by jackpotismine on Mar 12, 2012

The set of 23 numbers is fixed. These numbers are based on these numbers 0,3,6,9.

Here is the breakdown:Any number that has a 'zero' in it ; 0=10,20,30 or any number when combine give you a ten's. For example: 19= 1+9=10, 28=2+8=10, and so on.

3's.Any number that has a 3 in it's tenth column or when added together gives you a 3. Example: 13,23,33,.

6's.Any number that has a 6 in it's tenth column or when added together gives you a 6. Example: 16,36,etc,.

9's.Same goes for 9. 9,27=2+7=9,29,etc.

So basically if it contains a 0,3,6,9 or adds up to any of these then it's include. That's how I got the 23 numbers for a 39 Pick 5 game. For the larger games like Lotto or Mega, it would be the same but would be much more numbers. I thought about this based on the 'old man zero trick' theory. I believe that wheeling your numbers is the best method however I don't think having power numbers is the best wheeling scheme but it is probably the cheapest. If you can use a wheel that uses no power number but gives you a guarantee win of 5 of 5 then I would use that. It would probably cost too much. As I said to Feisty1, if you just use these numbers and do your workout as if the Take 5 has ONLY these numbers and study the patterns and trends, you will hit 4 of 5 more often then not. Most people/players just want an easy way to hit but the fact is that you have to follow patterns and trends and do your homework. You can eliminate some of the numbers easily. So instead of 23 you can probably just work with 16 to 18 numbers if you eliminate numbers that are cold, hot, repeats, 10's, and so on. That's it.

Sorry for being so long winded. (That's why when people ask me how I chose these numbers I usually say do a search)

Yeah, it was long winded, but THANKS so much because it eliminated the confusion that I obviously was operating under. Pardon me for being so slow on the uptake!

You're also correct, 4 of the 5 numbers were there last night, only the 17 was missing from your set of 23.

Identifying patterns and trends is my big weakness. I look at a speadsheet I keep of Take5 numbers, but I really dont know what the patterns that I should be looking for are. Maybe it's time for me to breakdown and buy Gail Howards Lottery Master Guide. I'm off from work today, so maybe I'll go to Barnes and Noble and see if they have a copy.

As for buying software, I'm not quite ready to take that step. I've read so many online reviews of various different programs that I dont which one to choose.

Thanks agin, and I'll buy some lines from both of your sets for tonite.

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Thanks agin, and I'll buy some lines from both of your sets for tonite.

Check that. There's a Take5 promotion going on. It's buy $10 on one ticket, and get three QP lines free.

So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm buying 5 lines from Set A for two nights, (That'll cost 10 bucks so I get the 3 free QP lines) and I'll do the same thing for Set B. This way I'll have 6 free QP lines for tonight, and play five lines from both sets for two nites. (3/13 and 3/14.)