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If you knew the numbers before the drawing?

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Posted: February 26, 2012, 1:30 pm - IP Logged

this story was for a pick four game .......

 

and welcome to the LP , Scientistman

 and thanks for the eye breaker of a first post Crazy

hearsetrax,

That's what I was thinking....with no mention of payout limits on Pick 3/ Pick 4.......so if someone really knew a number was going to be drawn ( 3 digit number, 4 digit numbr) and loaded up on it, that number would be locked out.

As always, there is no such thing as a lock.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Posted: February 26, 2012, 1:55 pm - IP Logged

    Although some may be aware of the true story about a newpaper printing the winning numbers prior to the drawing some years ago...

    The story basically goes like this..

    What would happen if, crazy as it might sound, a newspaper published the correct numbers of a lottery before the numbers were drawn?     This story begins where a Vancouver resident called Oregon Lottery officials claiming that the newspaper he was reading The Columbian had printed the winning numbers for that nights drawing in the paper before the numbers were drawn.   So, David Hooper, public affairs manager of the Oregon Lottery, placed a call to The Columbian. He asked for the numbers we had printed in the Pick 4 Oregon Lottery game. We told him: 6-8-5-5. That's not what he wanted to hear. Because those were the numbers that were drawn several hours after the newpaper was published. We got a call back. Would we fax him a copy of the page? Sure. It was 6-8-5-5 again. OK, one last try. Oregon Lottery officials went out and bought a copy of The Columbian. Maybe our call and the fax were sort of a joke.   But when they plunked down their 50 cents, (very, very dramatic pause required here) they were at a loss. We indeed had published the winning numbers several hours before they were drawn.   Hmmm. "Game security is our most valuable commodity," Hooper would say later. "This was something we needed to take a more serious look at."   There are dozens of checks and double-checks firewalls, to protect the integrity of the lottery game, and every one of them would now have to be checked. Could there have been a leak in the system? An inside job? A fix? If someone could get the numbers in advance, think of the quick money that could be made.   Think of how the entire Oregon Lottery, which brings in millions of dollars, would collapse. But the firewalls all checked out. There still was no answer. Hooper had no options left. So he called the law. That's when Lloyd W. Beil, a detective with the Oregon State Police's gaming enforcement section, paid us a visit.   Beil's stop here was at News Editor Cynthia Tank's desk. The news desk is in charge of many things, including getting the lottery results in the paper.   "What's up" must have been his first inquiry. Lucky he didn't run into me first. I would have grinned and said, "Hey, I know people who know people."   Tank, however, came clean. Here's what happened: The Columbian's computers crashed Wednesday and we had to scramble to re-create a news page that had been lost. It happened to be the page that had the lottery results. A copy editor was assigned to go back and get the Oregon Lottery numbers off the news wires. We were pushing deadline, and he had to be quick.   He spotted the Pick 4 numbers. Problem was, he grabbed the Virginia Pick 4 numbers, not Oregon's. And miracle of miracles, Virginia's Pick 4 numbers were the same exact numbers that Oregon was about to draw that day.   "We can laugh about it now," Hooper said. "Because there's nothing wrong with our system." But he admits there were some anxious moments. And exactly what are the odds of hitting the Pick 4?   "Well, it's 10,000 to 1," he said. And the odds of us crashing our computers, picking the Virginia lottery numbers by mistake and having those numbers be the same numbers you would draw the next day?   "A gazillion to one." _____       Ok so a Washington (state) newspaper The Columbian printed the winning Pick4 numbers for the Oregon State Lottery several hours before the numbers were actually drawn. But it turns out that what really happened was that in a rush the news editor grabbed the Virginia State Lottery Pick 4 numbers by mistake and posted them in the paper before the drawing occured in Oregon.   A subscriber reportedly noticed the time discrepancy, and contacted the Lottery. They investigated and suppossedly found that a harmless coincidence was the source of the "pre-printing" of the winning numbers.   Appearing at about 7:30 AM ET on the NBC program TODAY, the Managing Editor of The Columbian explained that as the deadline for the paper approached, a staff Editor went to "the wire" to obtain the winning numbers. However, "their (The Columbian's) computer crashed" at just that moment, and in trying to recover the information, the staff Editor accidentally accessed and printed the winning numbers for the Virginia State Lottery, believing they were the Oregon State Lottery numbers.   And, by a coincidence described as "one in a ga-zillion" by the Oregon State Lottery officials, the winning numbers for Oregon and Virginia just happened to be the same that day.   End of story--or so they would have you believe.   I don't think so.   This "explaination" just can't be right--even if the numbers for Oregon and Virginia /were/ coincidentally the same on July 3.   The heart of the matter is that the deadline for The Columbian was obviously several hours before the drawing of the Oregon Lottery, because the paper was on the streets with the "winning numbers" in print several hours before the drawing.   So how does a newspaper routinely access the correct numbers "on the wire" several hours before they are physically drawn?   It doesn't--unless the numbers have already been picked "several hours" before the "supposed" official drawing time. Which means that the winning numbers "are known" to at least "some persons in advance" and that is the very essence of a fradulent lottery. In otherwords they claim that the lottery drawing is at such and such time and really it could be drawn early in the morning or afternoon? And if this is true what are we watching on television a recorded show from the morning or afternoon several hours before the drawing time. THINK ABOUT IT!   So--if the Pick4 is fradulently drawn, what about all the other Lottery drawings?   Interestingly, the managing Editor commented during his appearance that upon being contacted by the observant subscriber, the Oregon State Lottery immediately went to "DefCon 4", and checked all their firewalls and security systems to make sure that "this [in context meaning an unautorized advance access of the winning numbers] couldn't happen".   Just the phrasing of that statement alone seems to imply that an "authorized advance access" of the winning number CAN happen!

    So this brings me to a question I have been waiting forever to ask the entire lottery community for years!

    1. If the numbers could be known in advance what would you do with those numbers? 2. If only half of the numbers could be known in advance what would you do with those numbers?

    Lets focus on number 1

    Lets say you knew in advance that 6855 were going to be drawn in your pick 4 lottery tonight or tomorrow whatever?

    Well naturally IT DOESNT TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST HERE. You would play those 4 digits and win THE MULLA.

    Number 2

    Ok lets say you only knew half or only 2 of the numbers from 6855 like only the 68 or 55 would it be easy to win with knowing only 2 numbers? How easy? What would be your system of winning?

    Ok lets look at a 6/49 lottery

    If you knew HALF of the 6 numbers in advance.

    What type of method would you play to go about getting the other 3 to win the jackpot?

    I am very very very interested in hearing from anyone on this forum.

    One last note: I reasize that some here may be fixed on a belief that it is absolutely impossible to know in advance even 1 number of any lottery let alone half the numbers before they are drawn yet because I know for a fact that it is not only probable but very possible! I have discovered a loophole in the lottery that I believe I may be the the ONLY ONE on earth on the entire planet who has found it!

    And because I only know 3 of the numbers I naturaly have won thousands of times with 3 numer wins and 4 number wins also and also won wiht 5 numbers but cant get the 6th one no matter how I try!

    And it is 100% accurate! Maybe It is random, maybe not, but it is accurate!

    Now if anyone can help me attain the other 3 in the 649 lottery I will share the money with you.

    In otherwords I want to shake up your belief about the lottery and show everyone on this site that something unusual is occuring in the lottery that I have single handedly discovered and very much doubt anyone in the world is aware of, I accidently stumbled upon it one late night in the wee hours of the morning. I just dont know what to do with my discovery or how to play to attain the other 3?

     The lottery is not random and I know you have yor own belief that it is yet I do not share this belief with you pand never will so please do not try to convince me otherwise it will do you no good!

    I know 3 of the numbers in the 6/49 lottery before it occurs. If anyone can help me attain the other 3 with some method I will share the jackpot with you!

    What wheel should I play? What method? Show me and I will play it and try to win it!

    I am serious! Just help me and I will share it with you because I would be happy with some of the jackpot than none of the jackpot at all. Would you?

    Awesome! What should I do????

    I know 3 numbers in the lottery before the drawing occurs?

    Dont ask me how I know I will not tell you and Iam not crazy!

    Just trust me on this without question!

    I need a system to attain the other 3

    Hopefully that will not cost too much to play!

    So if you knew 3 of the 6 how would you play?

    Anyone?

    I have discovered a loophole in the lottery that I believe I may be the the ONLY ONE on earth on the entire planet who has found it!

    That's a very common belief. Clown

     

    I just dont know what to do with my discovery ...

    Would you like us to tell you what to do with your discovery? Shocked

     

    If anyone can help me attain the other 3 with some method I will share the jackpot with you!

    And you just need my bank details to know where to wire the money, right? Troll

     

    Just trust me on this without question!

    Yes, Mr. President. Patriot

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      Posted: February 26, 2012, 2:13 pm - IP Logged

      Someone won the Powerball last night! O.o 

      The first post has to many words cluttered up. Should've considered some white space but I'll read it bit by bit and try to understand the plot. Spam

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        Posted: February 26, 2012, 2:39 pm - IP Logged

        Okay, I read the first post and nice questions you have.

        Seriously though, I know what will always be the next 4 numbers for Pick 4 because the numbers are always in my work book the day before the draw. 

        The system I use is proven and creates winners everyday. My only problem is, I choose the wrong numbers to play, always. If I can find a way to just understand what number to nail, than I'll be a millionaire quick with the Pick 4. And I'm serious. 

        As for knowing what 3 numbers to play for the games that need 6 numbers, I gave up on that because these games have lousy pay-outs. The only pay-out that's good is the Jackpot. 

        However, if you can understand the 3 hottest digits for the game and its history, well like RJOH suggested, do your thing and make your lines. You'll be a winner one day guranteed!

         

        Afterall, these are just numbers we're talking about. It's not rocket science. Thumbs Up

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          Scientistman re original post:

          I didn't have trouble reading it, but i have a lot of practice reading medical jargon that runs for pararaphs on end.  This is a forum that takes some getting used to,  most people on the forum WILL be more knowledgeable about the lottery than a new member and people are SERIOUS here about accusations of fraud/deceit in the system.  Its best to follow general internet rules that people have mentioned.  Use white spaces, paragraphs to break up the text.  Also make sure you are clear in your sentence structure and concise as possible.  Just my own personal suggestions.

          And since this is a long-running lottery forum, a new person who tells a story of anything involving the following is generally treated with suspicion and for good reason.

          1.  Lottery rigging

          2.  Lottery prediction with "their" nearly infallible method, be it formulaic or inside info

          3.  New member stating that they have information that the long-term members and players of the game do not have a clue about.

           

          You are dealing with a whole forum-full of RKIs, so treading delicately is sometimes the key.

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            I have discovered a loophole in the lottery that I believe I may be the the ONLY ONE on earth on the entire planet who has found it!

            If anyone can help me attain the other 3 with some method I will share the jackpot with you!

             

            Method #1: The Most Powerful Method ever known to MEN (Manipulative Egotistical Numbskull)

            Materials Needed:

            2 Packs of Post It Notes

            1 Pack of Thumb Tacks

            6 Darts

            1 #2 Pencil

            An Empty Wall Space

            Blind Fold

            Instructions:

            Unwrap Post It Notes and separate from packaging.

            Use #2 Pencil to scribe the numbers 1-49 per Post It Notes.

            Open Pack of Thumb Tack, next proceed by tacking each individual Post It Notes to the Empty Wall Space.

            Have Darts close at hand.

            Tie Blindfold to Eyes.

            When Blindfold has been properly place, have Darts in hand, face wall and throw Darts towards wall, if this is done with accuracy and precision, Success is bound to follow.

             

            Come back & let us know how it works out for you.

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              Here's what it says at the end of the "story":

              "Lottery immediately went to "DefCon 4", and checked all their firewalls and security systems to make sure that "this [in context meaning an unautorized advance access of the winning numbers] couldn't happen".   Just the phrasing of that statement alone seems to imply that an "authorized advance access" of the winning number CAN happen!"

              Except that's from somebody's comment to the actual story, and includes their misinterpretation of the phrase, "this couldn't happen". That statement had nothing to do with accessing the numbers ahead of time. It was about the possibility that anyone could know the numbers ahead of time and that couldn't happen. It's that simple.

              One part of the story that could be more clear is that the winning numbers were reported as the numbers for the previous drawing. They were working late on Wednesday to publish Thursday's paper, and reported VA's Wednesday results as Oregon's Wednesday results.  Oregon's Thursday drawing then happened to repeat VA's Wednesday results.

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                I have discovered a loophole in the lottery that I believe I may be the the ONLY ONE on earth on the entire planet who has found it!

                That's a very common belief. Clown

                 

                I just dont know what to do with my discovery ...

                Would you like us to tell you what to do with your discovery? Shocked

                 

                If anyone can help me attain the other 3 with some method I will share the jackpot with you!

                And you just need my bank details to know where to wire the money, right? Troll

                 

                Just trust me on this without question!

                Yes, Mr. President. Patriot

                That's what I needed, a Cliffs Notes version.


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

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                  Along the lines of this topic:  back on March 20, 1992, I was minding a video game store for a friend who left for a video game service call.  I was sitting there watching TV, waiting for the PA evening drawing just before 7pm.  All of a sudden the number was streamed across the screen as "0-0-0".  Then 7pm came and the drawing was held, but the drawing was "1-3-0".  My first thought was that someone at the TV station had really screwed up his job somehow and I didn't think anything of it.  But the next night the number drawn was "0-0-0".  Could it have been possible for the drawing to have all ready been held and recorded because the persons associated with the drawing did not want to have to come in on a Saturday to do a drawing?......and someone slipped up and put the wrong number into the streaming?.....or maybe it was not a "mistake" but a way to tip off someone what the number was going to be the next night and since it was a triple, they would be able to buy a lot of tickets without any suspicion.  There would be a lot of sales on the triples, so the lottery would not be any wiser, particularly if those involved did not go way overboard cashing tickets like the 1980 triple 6's scandel in PA.  I never heard anything about that after that night. I tried a few minutes ago to see if they showed the payout on that drawing, but they don't go that far back with payout info. Guess I should have gone across the line and got a few tickets!!

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                    Along the lines of this topic:  back on March 20, 1992, I was minding a video game store for a friend who left for a video game service call.  I was sitting there watching TV, waiting for the PA evening drawing just before 7pm.  All of a sudden the number was streamed across the screen as "0-0-0".  Then 7pm came and the drawing was held, but the drawing was "1-3-0".  My first thought was that someone at the TV station had really screwed up his job somehow and I didn't think anything of it.  But the next night the number drawn was "0-0-0".  Could it have been possible for the drawing to have all ready been held and recorded because the persons associated with the drawing did not want to have to come in on a Saturday to do a drawing?......and someone slipped up and put the wrong number into the streaming?.....or maybe it was not a "mistake" but a way to tip off someone what the number was going to be the next night and since it was a triple, they would be able to buy a lot of tickets without any suspicion.  There would be a lot of sales on the triples, so the lottery would not be any wiser, particularly if those involved did not go way overboard cashing tickets like the 1980 triple 6's scandel in PA.  I never heard anything about that after that night. I tried a few minutes ago to see if they showed the payout on that drawing, but they don't go that far back with payout info. Guess I should have gone across the line and got a few tickets!!

                    Maybe you were the victim of a short 24 hours time disturbance and didn't know it.  I often wondered if that ever happened, if one would notice and if one could use it to ones advantage.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one * 
                       
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                      i think they put in 0-0-0 cause they did't have the info,their info stream system requires somthing be put in there,

                      they could'nt put blanks,and if they put dashes to represent blanks it would look like this   -----

                      jmho.

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                        That's what I needed, a Cliffs Notes version.

                        did't think it,i was looking for the,

                        for dummies version, LOL. Wink

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                          i think they put in 0-0-0 cause they did't have the info,their info stream system requires somthing be put in there,

                          they could'nt put blanks,and if they put dashes to represent blanks it would look like this   -----

                          jmho.

                          Good point, haymaker....maybe it ws a Max Headroom type of thing. Remember that?

                          "What's the max headroom in the vehicle?"

                          "Who's Max Headroom?"

                          Voila..........

                          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                          Lep

                          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.