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The Lottery Is A Zero-Sum Game. No Lottery Player Can Win Without Another Lottery Playery Losing.

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Posted: April 6, 2012, 9:20 pm - IP Logged

"You can't spend $4 weekly on PB for the dream like everybody else?"

You can dream about digging up a 500 pound gold nugget in your backyard or you buy a dream at your local lottery retailer. Either way, unless you hit the jackpot, it's nothing but a dream.

WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF SAVING YOUR MONEY VS PLAYING THE LOTTERY?

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    Posted: April 6, 2012, 9:23 pm - IP Logged

    WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF SAVING YOUR MONEY VS PLAYING THE LOTTERY?

    You can save all your money and still not make it anywhere..

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      Posted: April 6, 2012, 9:26 pm - IP Logged

      You can save all your money and still not make it anywhere..

      What are the advantages of saving money versus playing the lottery?

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        You can actually stop playing the lottery for an entire year, because you play the lottery sporadically.

        Would you spend $175,711,536M to win a $646M lottery jackpot if you had the money?

        $300M+? That is funny. You can't spend $4 weekly on PB for the dream like everybody else?

        LOL Even if it WERE possible to buy every possible combination for Mega Millions for one draw, it would be a foolish proposition for the sole purpose of winning ~$290 million or whatever after taxes, simply due to the probability of another winning ticket (or more winning tickets) being sold, therefore causing you a LOSS of at least $30 million.

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          Posted: April 7, 2012, 4:41 am - IP Logged

          You can save all your money and still not make it anywhere..

          Am I either an ignorant or an idiot for playing the lottery?

          "Somebody wrote on here you could save all your life and never have the millions. Try comparing how many people who have saved their whole lives who become millionaires versus those who play the lottery their whole lives and end up millionaires. I'll bet you a lottery ticket the number who save is over a 1,000 times more than the lottery players. That's 1 millionaire lottery winner to every 1,000 saver millionaire. You work hard, save, and invest to become a millionaire, people. It's not about luck."

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            LOL Even if it WERE possible to buy every possible combination for Mega Millions for one draw, it would be a foolish proposition for the sole purpose of winning ~$290 million or whatever after taxes, simply due to the probability of another winning ticket (or more winning tickets) being sold, therefore causing you a LOSS of at least $30 million.

            "Play" the lottery, is a word used to deceive you into thinking you are being entertained, while your money transfers from your hand into the cash register. For bigger purchases, the word "invest" is often applied. You have to think your evaporated money became a charitable contribution toward education, for rationalization purposes. If you ever read the fine print, and understand the math, you might become a former lottery ticket buyer, if you ever started in the first place. Save your money instead of playing the lottery. That will make you a winner every time.

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              Posted: April 7, 2012, 5:03 am - IP Logged

              "You can't spend $4 weekly on PB for the dream like everybody else?"

              You can dream about digging up a 500 pound gold nugget in your backyard or you buy a dream at your local lottery retailer. Either way, unless you hit the jackpot, it's nothing but a dream.

              How many times do you dream about winning?

              Do you have to win every week to be happy?

              Of course not.

              You only have to win once.

              So you only have to play the lottery, at some time in the future to be able to legitimately dream of winning a huge lottery jackpot.

              "You're missing my point; you buy a $1 dream on Tuesday, a $2 dream on Wednesday, another $1 dream on Friday, and another $2 dream on Saturday. Total cost for the week $6 for four Dreams. You already know the odds against winning something so you sure can't classify that type of wagering as gambling.

              The yearly cost is $312 for 208 dreams. If you want to dream, play PB and/or MM, if you want to gamble, learn how to play poker."

              How about spending $312 once a year in one MM drawing?

              You will have 312 chances (Dreams) on one shot.

              Oh, I am sorry you are not a gambler like me.

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                Posted: April 7, 2012, 11:57 am - IP Logged

                You can actually stop playing the lottery for an entire year, because you play the lottery sporadically.

                Would you spend $175,711,536M to win a $646M lottery jackpot if you had the money?

                $300M+? That is funny. You can't spend $4 weekly on PB for the dream like everybody else?

                 That is funny. You can't spend $4 weekly on PB for the dream like everybody else?

                Sounds like you are addicted to playing PB if you really believe  everybody else spend $4 weekly dreaming of winning its jackpot.  I would have thought since you are only dreaming, you would spend $2 weekly on MM and saved $2 instead.  Since I'm a system player, I play the games that I feel offer the best value for my dollars.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: April 7, 2012, 3:21 pm - IP Logged

                  How many times do you dream about winning?

                  Do you have to win every week to be happy?

                  Of course not.

                  You only have to win once.

                  So you only have to play the lottery, at some time in the future to be able to legitimately dream of winning a huge lottery jackpot.

                  "You're missing my point; you buy a $1 dream on Tuesday, a $2 dream on Wednesday, another $1 dream on Friday, and another $2 dream on Saturday. Total cost for the week $6 for four Dreams. You already know the odds against winning something so you sure can't classify that type of wagering as gambling.

                  The yearly cost is $312 for 208 dreams. If you want to dream, play PB and/or MM, if you want to gamble, learn how to play poker."

                  How about spending $312 once a year in one MM drawing?

                  You will have 312 chances (Dreams) on one shot.

                  Oh, I am sorry you are not a gambler like me.

                  "How about spending $312 once a year in one MM drawing?"

                  That question was debated a few months ago, the math showed either bet is a wash, and it's all about preference.

                  "Oh, I am sorry you are not a gambler like me."

                  If you consider buying one or two MM or PB QPs gambling, you're correct. I'd still be playing internet poker from the comforts of my home if the government hadn't decided I was being preyed on by International thieves. We can't even compare the PB odds of 1 in every 32 chances wins something (usually $7 or under) to horse racing or casino betting.

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                     That is funny. You can't spend $4 weekly on PB for the dream like everybody else?

                    Sounds like you are addicted to playing PB if you really believe  everybody else spend $4 weekly dreaming of winning its jackpot.  I would have thought since you are only dreaming, you would spend $2 weekly on MM and saved $2 instead.  Since I'm a system player, I play the games that I feel offer the best value for my dollars.

                    How ironic, I am a system player too. I just need to be in the right place at the right time to win. You never know when you buying QP tickets.

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                      "How about spending $312 once a year in one MM drawing?"

                      That question was debated a few months ago, the math showed either bet is a wash, and it's all about preference.

                      "Oh, I am sorry you are not a gambler like me."

                      If you consider buying one or two MM or PB QPs gambling, you're correct. I'd still be playing internet poker from the comforts of my home if the government hadn't decided I was being preyed on by International thieves. We can't even compare the PB odds of 1 in every 32 chances wins something (usually $7 or under) to horse racing or casino betting.

                      YOU HAVE TO BE IN IT TO WIN IT.

                      Can we use visualization to win a lottery jackpot?

                      Can we become addicted to lottery daydreaming?

                      I feel that face to face poker is the best .That is the real thing.I love to watch the poker games on tv.

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                        Posted: April 7, 2012, 9:19 pm - IP Logged

                         That is funny. You can't spend $4 weekly on PB for the dream like everybody else?

                        Sounds like you are addicted to playing PB if you really believe  everybody else spend $4 weekly dreaming of winning its jackpot.  I would have thought since you are only dreaming, you would spend $2 weekly on MM and saved $2 instead.  Since I'm a system player, I play the games that I feel offer the best value for my dollars.

                        Yep, somebody's gotta win, and, somebody's gotta lose in these games...no way around it.  Your last sentence speaks the gospel in its' fullest form and I live by it. I might play a line or two on the MM, PB, or most of all, our 6/54 games every now and again, but there's no sense in doing it regularly due to the odds. As a note, I high lighted the 6/54 game due a thread I will begin shortly. Like you, RJOh, I stick to the games that I know I can make some money on, and, regularly. I even have a pretty decent approach to the roulette game which I also make good money on. It's all about the odds and the best way to narrow them down to one's advantage in the end...and there are ways to accomplish this.

                         The states are doing very, very, very, very, well with their jackpot games!!! Man, if I could get just $.25 from every person in Texas, every single day, I'd be set in stone!!!!! That's how easy it really is!!! Seriously, though, it's cool to chase the proverbial "dollar and a dream" as long as you don't go overboard with it. I personally believe it has to do with a person's state of mind...just look at the guy who got struck by lightening a few days ago. The intensity of one's thoughts are extremely powerful. Mastering those thoughts is where the challenge lies...

                        L.L.

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                          Yep, somebody's gotta win, and, somebody's gotta lose in these games...no way around it.  Your last sentence speaks the gospel in its' fullest form and I live by it. I might play a line or two on the MM, PB, or most of all, our 6/54 games every now and again, but there's no sense in doing it regularly due to the odds. As a note, I high lighted the 6/54 game due a thread I will begin shortly. Like you, RJOh, I stick to the games that I know I can make some money on, and, regularly. I even have a pretty decent approach to the roulette game which I also make good money on. It's all about the odds and the best way to narrow them down to one's advantage in the end...and there are ways to accomplish this.

                           The states are doing very, very, very, very, well with their jackpot games!!! Man, if I could get just $.25 from every person in Texas, every single day, I'd be set in stone!!!!! That's how easy it really is!!! Seriously, though, it's cool to chase the proverbial "dollar and a dream" as long as you don't go overboard with it. I personally believe it has to do with a person's state of mind...just look at the guy who got struck by lightening a few days ago. The intensity of one's thoughts are extremely powerful. Mastering those thoughts is where the challenge lies...

                          L.L.

                          "Seriously, though, it's cool to chase the proverbial "dollar and a dream" as long as you don't go overboard with it. I personally believe it has to do with a person's state of mind...just look at the guy who got struck by lightening a few days ago. The intensity of one's thoughts are extremely powerful. Mastering those thoughts is where the challenge lies."

                          Can you explain it in more details?

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                            "Seriously, though, it's cool to chase the proverbial "dollar and a dream" as long as you don't go overboard with it. I personally believe it has to do with a person's state of mind...just look at the guy who got struck by lightening a few days ago. The intensity of one's thoughts are extremely powerful. Mastering those thoughts is where the challenge lies."

                            Can you explain it in more details?

                            Well, this type of thing goes back a long, long way. A person's thoughts and mind set has everything to do with how things fare in their lives. The thought process is extremely powerful and will produce expected results...depending on the intensity of them. It may sound far fetched, but, it's true. This follows the, "If you think you can, you're right, and, if you think you can't, then you're right." I've lived it...and still do. Everyone does not have the same thought process and/or belief system. Everyone sees things differently, and, from a different perspective. This is the epitome in definition of personality. Now, some personalities produce more while others produce less. 

                            For instance, when you look at the side of a FEDEX truck, what do you see? Honestly. I'll tell you what I see...I see the "FEDEX" logo which also contains AN ARROW between the E and the X which points to the rear of the truck. This follows suite with people in how they percieve, differently, everything in life. When I look at numbers, I see lots of things going on, and, the more you see the more way you see you can actually win....within reason of course.

                            L.L. 

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                              Well, this type of thing goes back a long, long way. A person's thoughts and mind set has everything to do with how things fare in their lives. The thought process is extremely powerful and will produce expected results...depending on the intensity of them. It may sound far fetched, but, it's true. This follows the, "If you think you can, you're right, and, if you think you can't, then you're right." I've lived it...and still do. Everyone does not have the same thought process and/or belief system. Everyone sees things differently, and, from a different perspective. This is the epitome in definition of personality. Now, some personalities produce more while others produce less. 

                              For instance, when you look at the side of a FEDEX truck, what do you see? Honestly. I'll tell you what I see...I see the "FEDEX" logo which also contains AN ARROW between the E and the X which points to the rear of the truck. This follows suite with people in how they percieve, differently, everything in life. When I look at numbers, I see lots of things going on, and, the more you see the more way you see you can actually win....within reason of course.

                              L.L. 

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