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# Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Im going back to a group of 20 for live play.

03 06 07 08 09 10 11 13 14 16 20 23 32 39 42 46 50 51 55 56

bonus ball 03

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Ronnie316

Not to Butt-In,

Was letting you know  that LP has a      3 if 4 of 12   ( \$12)

and a        3 if 3 of 12   ( \$29)

in the abbreviated section...  if you ever gain confidence in your Maddogs

I use them from time to time

just popping in

vacation club money up to   \$120

Both very good ideas x,

Im cutting down to 20 numbers and that the lowest I can convince myself to go at this time.......

The odds are 1 in 39 with 28 numbers and with 20, I think its 1 in 400 or something like that.....

Stack of RJOh can verify those odds..... but the point remains that its a lot of draws without an expectation of hitting 5 of 5 and with the wheel its even less......

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I would like to know, how many combinations are in a 4 if 4 of 20 wheel???

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RL is welcome here anytime  RJOh. I have never tried to run anyone away from any thread. Its too bad that RL and his pool buddies seemed to be harbouring such hard feelings, and were intent on dispensing of me.

No doubt you could do a BETTER job of analyzing repeating winning numbers, as what RL says sounds more like random nonsense. He said he chose random numbers only to change that, and say that he selected a set of 28 that had a high win rate. Its hard to listen to his stories that keeps changing......

I tried repeating numbers without much luck, I'm now talking about repeating positions in the latest list.  For example when RL pointed out that I said the first 15 numbers in the PB list could be skipped and in the next PB drawing, winning numbers started with the 17th number in the list.

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I would like to know, how many combinations are in a 4 if 4 of 20 wheel???

Download a copy of CoverMaster from LottoLogix and it will not only tell you the number of lines in a 4of4of20 wheel it will create but the percent of coverage of all the possible combinations of 5, 4 and 3.

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Thanks  RJOh, Im getting that right now.

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Random input 2 if 2 of 20 wheel

Input:  10, 6, 14, 55, 42, 50, 56, 46, 11, 13, 16, 23, 9, 39, 20, 51, 3, 7, 8, 32

1. 06-08-10-23-39
2. 10-14-46-50-55
3. 10-11-13-42-51
4. 07-10-16-32-56
5. 03-09-10-20-46
6. 06-13-14-20-56
7. 03-06-11-32-55
8. 06-07-09-42-46
9. 06-16-46-50-51
10. 06-08-20-32-51
11. 14-23-32-42-46
12. 08-09-11-14-16
13. 03-07-14-39-51
14. 16-20-39-42-55
15. 09-23-51-55-56
16. 07-08-13-46-55
17. 03-08-42-50-56
18. 07-11-20-23-50
19. 09-13-32-39-50
20. 11-20-39-46-56
21. 03-13-16-23-46

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In light of so many people making the ridiculous argument that QPs have the same odds as self picked numbers combined with the use of a system.........

Im going to give the 2 if 2 of 20 wheel a second spin, just in case I nailed 5 of 5 in my group of 20..........

Input:  51, 8, 46, 55, 14, 13, 39, 50, 42, 10, 56, 3, 7, 6, 23, 32, 16, 9, 11, 20

1. 03-06-08-11-51
2. 13-46-50-51-55
3. 10-14-32-42-51
4. 09-20-39-51-56
5. 07-16-23-50-51
6. 08-10-23-39-46
7. 08-16-20-42-55
8. 07-08-09-14-50
9. 08-13-32-50-56
10. 08-11-20-23-32
11. 03-14-20-46-50
12. 07-11-42-46-56
13. 06-09-16-32-46
14. 06-14-23-55-56
15. 03-07-32-39-55
16. 09-10-11-50-55
17. 11-13-14-16-39
18. 03-09-13-23-42
19. 06-07-10-13-20
20. 06-23-39-42-50
21. 03-10-16-50-56

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In light of so many people making the ridiculous argument that QPs have the same odds as self picked numbers combined with the use of a system.........

Im going to give the 2 if 2 of 20 wheel a second spin, just in case I nailed 5 of 5 in my group of 20..........

Input:  51, 8, 46, 55, 14, 13, 39, 50, 42, 10, 56, 3, 7, 6, 23, 32, 16, 9, 11, 20

1. 03-06-08-11-51
2. 13-46-50-51-55
3. 10-14-32-42-51
4. 09-20-39-51-56
5. 07-16-23-50-51
6. 08-10-23-39-46
7. 08-16-20-42-55
8. 07-08-09-14-50
9. 08-13-32-50-56
10. 08-11-20-23-32
11. 03-14-20-46-50
12. 07-11-42-46-56
13. 06-09-16-32-46
14. 06-14-23-55-56
15. 03-07-32-39-55
16. 09-10-11-50-55
17. 11-13-14-16-39
18. 03-09-13-23-42
19. 06-07-10-13-20
20. 06-23-39-42-50
21. 03-10-16-50-56

Hey ronnie, I was curious, how many \$100

wheels can you play consecutively in a losing fashion before you start to worry and  it starts to sting?

Also ronnie you may want to do a three number power number wheel, to cut down cost and improve odds.

And I would recommend your number string be filtered by skips.

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I would like to know, how many combinations are in a 4 if 4 of 20 wheel???

Aproximately 15 thousand.  Do you have an banker numbers?

This would reduce lines.

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Hey ronnie, I was curious, how many \$100

wheels can you play consecutively in a losing fashion before you start to worry and  it starts to sting?

Also ronnie you may want to do a three number power number wheel, to cut down cost and improve odds.

And I would recommend your number string be filtered by skips.

50-60, Do you have some ideas?? What I posted (and play) are \$21. wheels....

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Hey ronnie, I was curious, how many \$100

wheels can you play consecutively in a losing fashion before you start to worry and  it starts to sting?

Also ronnie you may want to do a three number power number wheel, to cut down cost and improve odds.

And I would recommend your number string be filtered by skips.

Why would anyone start to worry after the money is spent?  It's too late to do anything about it then, the time to worry is before you spend it.

Once I've paid for lottery tickets I consider that money gone, any hope of getting some of it back depend on the numbers on the tickets and you know how that usually turn out.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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Why would anyone start to worry after the money is spent?  It's too late to do anything about it then, the time to worry is before you spend it.

Once I've paid for lottery tickets I consider that money gone, any hope of getting some of it back depend on the numbers on the tickets and you know how that usually turn out.

No, I don't know. How does that usually turn out?

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50-60, Do you have some ideas?? What I posted (and play) are \$21. wheels....

I do have an idea, but it not necessarily for the PB yet.  I would like to conquer a molehill before i take on the mountain.

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