e.bridgewater United States
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I play the lottery every day for the past 20 years. I spend at least 20.00 per day on keno 10.00 on the numbers game and play all the bigger games. I gave up scratch tickets because they were costing me too much money with very few winners. I used to hit keno before 2 years ago but something has changed now because I never hit any more!!!!. And since the daily number is not live anymore it makes you think if something is fishy is going on there!!! Could those video's be in a big database some where and when they want to pick the number they njust roll the vidoe file. It makes me think. is all this money I'm wasting ever going to pay off or is it just another tax on the poor. Thinking about quitting and goint to GA.
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Quote: Originally posted by jackeboy on Jun 12, 2012
I play the lottery every day for the past 20 years. I spend at least 20.00 per day on keno 10.00 on the numbers game and play all the bigger games. I gave up scratch tickets because they were costing me too much money with very few winners. I used to hit keno before 2 years ago but something has changed now because I never hit any more!!!!. And since the daily number is not live anymore it makes you think if something is fishy is going on there!!! Could those video's be in a big database some where and when they want to pick the number they njust roll the vidoe file. It makes me think. is all this money I'm wasting ever going to pay off or is it just another tax on the poor. Thinking about quitting and goint to GA.
$20 per day for keno and $10 for other games amount to $10,950 for 365 days or one year. I know at least four people who spent a third that much on lotteries the last few years and never won anything over $100. That means, together they spent more than you and didn't do any better, so there are a lot of other players in the same situation.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Quote: Originally posted by jackeboy on Jun 12, 2012
I play the lottery every day for the past 20 years. I spend at least 20.00 per day on keno 10.00 on the numbers game and play all the bigger games. I gave up scratch tickets because they were costing me too much money with very few winners. I used to hit keno before 2 years ago but something has changed now because I never hit any more!!!!. And since the daily number is not live anymore it makes you think if something is fishy is going on there!!! Could those video's be in a big database some where and when they want to pick the number they njust roll the vidoe file. It makes me think. is all this money I'm wasting ever going to pay off or is it just another tax on the poor. Thinking about quitting and goint to GA.
20 y * 360 d * (>20 + 10 + x?) USD + scratch >= 252 000 USD ???
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Quote: Originally posted by Nikkicute on Jun 12, 2012
Stop playing Keno for a while and play something else, give it arrest.
Lots of people think the lotto eliminates previous numbers picked some how to there
will not be a winner, I don't know if that is true and I hope not, I dont' think it is, you
just have to keep on playing or stop, many have played for years and hit the jackpot,
it just may happen to you but it won't if you stop playing all together.
"Stop playing Keno for a while and play something else, give it arrest."
Have you compared the odds of an average Keno game to the 31.8 to 1 odds of winning something in PB or 39.9 to 1 in MM?
"Lots of people think the lotto eliminates previous numbers picked some how to there will not be a winner,"
They say 70% to 80% of PB purchases are QPs and so are the prize winners. Maybe some players do eliminate certain numbers, groups of numbers, high/low even/odd proportion, sums, etc., but they are in the minority and have the same exact odds of winning as any QP player.
"many have played for years and hit the jackpot"
The March 30, 2012 MM drawing gives us a good idea of the percentage of jackpot winning tickets to total ticket sales. With only 3 winning tickets out of 651,915,940 tickets sold, not very many players will win a jackpot. And that's not including the hundreds of millions of non jackpot winning tickets sold during the 18 drawings leading up to that. Lots of players believe they will get their turn at winning a jackpot, but the reality is many more players will never get "their turn" in their life time.
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My opinion: Stop playing Keno.
While I was doing a little lottery research a few months back, I decided to analyze previously drawn Keno numbers and then put some money towards the game. The way I had the numbers picked, I should have at least gotten a $25 hit from it, if not a $250. The numbers drawn were in such an odd pattern (by odd, I mean a there were a large cluster of numbers back-to-back, like 25-26-27-28-29-30, can't remember the exact pick.) That told me that there was definitely something fishy with the game. I don't think enough people play it to force a winner (all number combos drawn) and the only jackpot winner I ever saw listed was from the same city that the Lottery HQ was in...hmmm....I think it's rigged/controlled, especially being purely computer-run, but obviously I have no proof. How else, though, can they *guarantee* a large set jackpot prize each drawing?
Why not switch to something with better odds? Do you have a 5/39 where you are? I've won quite a bit of money back from playing that type of game and have hit 4 out of 5 a few times. (Still waiting for that jackpot, though!) Even putting the Keno money towards PB or MM and getting more tickets and wheeling the numbers should help you get some money back, statistically speaking.
Ya know what they say about the definition of insanity...
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Jun 12, 2012
"Stop playing Keno for a while and play something else, give it arrest."
Have you compared the odds of an average Keno game to the 31.8 to 1 odds of winning something in PB or 39.9 to 1 in MM?
"Lots of people think the lotto eliminates previous numbers picked some how to there will not be a winner,"
They say 70% to 80% of PB purchases are QPs and so are the prize winners. Maybe some players do eliminate certain numbers, groups of numbers, high/low even/odd proportion, sums, etc., but they are in the minority and have the same exact odds of winning as any QP player.
"many have played for years and hit the jackpot"
The March 30, 2012 MM drawing gives us a good idea of the percentage of jackpot winning tickets to total ticket sales. With only 3 winning tickets out of 651,915,940 tickets sold, not very many players will win a jackpot. And that's not including the hundreds of millions of non jackpot winning tickets sold during the 18 drawings leading up to that. Lots of players believe they will get their turn at winning a jackpot, but the reality is many more players will never get "their turn" in their life time.
With only 3 winning tickets out of 651,915,940 tickets sold,
Good information, Stack. I see where it's more reasonable for a player to just hope for matching (5) numbers for the $1million. That's a lot of tickets sold for only (3) matches. As a reference, math definitely proves that this is truly a game of luck and being very fortunate...not spending lots of money. Although in the past, groups of players with very, very long paper have won a jackpot, it was just very good fortune compiled with lots of money i.e. LUCK.
Yeah, the closer you get to all the combinations, the better the chances because every number is permutated, completely with the next number and so on. Still, (1) number can change everything. These people were just very fortunate. Here's a simple math excercise based on the record jackpot:
65,100 people could've went in together and EACH SPENT $10,000 which would equal $651,000,000 spent on the jackpot. Still, only (3) would've won while the other 57,000 people...well, you know. Anything less than (5) numbers was a complete loss and forfeit of funds. Granted, it's possible that one of those $10K spenders could've gotten a duplicate tickets but, very unlikely, based on the result. It's just better to be very lucky with a little here.
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Quote: Originally posted by jackeboy on Jun 12, 2012
I play the lottery every day for the past 20 years. I spend at least 20.00 per day on keno 10.00 on the numbers game and play all the bigger games. I gave up scratch tickets because they were costing me too much money with very few winners. I used to hit keno before 2 years ago but something has changed now because I never hit any more!!!!. And since the daily number is not live anymore it makes you think if something is fishy is going on there!!! Could those video's be in a big database some where and when they want to pick the number they njust roll the vidoe file. It makes me think. is all this money I'm wasting ever going to pay off or is it just another tax on the poor. Thinking about quitting and goint to GA.
like you I spend quite a bit on numbers games also like you I have often felt more like a loser then a winner, I stopped playing scratch offs because I spent more then I earned on a regular basis. I thought about it and decided to concentrate for a while on pick three and for games. In NYC the payoff is 500 for 1$ and on four 5000 for 1$. I dont know what state you're in but you probably will have better luck with these two games and spend the same amount you spend now. if you print out the winning numbers for these two games for your state you will probably see a patternin the draws. It will take a couple of days for you to study the 164 days that have passed this year, but I think you'll find it's worth it. One final thought a little faith will also help. Hitting a major jackpot such as lotto,pb or mm is really a gift from God, if you haven't received this particular gift, you probably have been given something else. Look at your life and you will see what the gift is.
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Quote: Originally posted by Lucky Loser on Jun 12, 2012
With only 3 winning tickets out of 651,915,940 tickets sold,
Good information, Stack. I see where it's more reasonable for a player to just hope for matching (5) numbers for the $1million. That's a lot of tickets sold for only (3) matches. As a reference, math definitely proves that this is truly a game of luck and being very fortunate...not spending lots of money. Although in the past, groups of players with very, very long paper have won a jackpot, it was just very good fortune compiled with lots of money i.e. LUCK.
Yeah, the closer you get to all the combinations, the better the chances because every number is permutated, completely with the next number and so on. Still, (1) number can change everything. These people were just very fortunate. Here's a simple math excercise based on the record jackpot:
65,100 people could've went in together and EACH SPENT $10,000 which would equal $651,000,000 spent on the jackpot. Still, only (3) would've won while the other 57,000 people...well, you know. Anything less than (5) numbers was a complete loss and forfeit of funds. Granted, it's possible that one of those $10K spenders could've gotten a duplicate tickets but, very unlikely, based on the result. It's just better to be very lucky with a little here.
L.L.
"I see where it's more reasonable for a player to just hope for matching (5) numbers for the $1million."
And probably why PB went to $2 tickets even though for the same $2 bet players could win $1 million before the change. When you think about it, matching anything less than 4 + 1 really isn't a win, but in every drawing somebody should win $1 million and many players will win $10,000. The jackpot is only won in about 16% of the drawings and very few of them had enough in ticket sales to be "must win".
I like your use of word "hope" because I see many members using words like "expect" or "my turn" disregarding the next to impossible odds against winning.
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Quote: Originally posted by jackeboy on Jun 12, 2012
I play the lottery every day for the past 20 years. I spend at least 20.00 per day on keno 10.00 on the numbers game and play all the bigger games. I gave up scratch tickets because they were costing me too much money with very few winners. I used to hit keno before 2 years ago but something has changed now because I never hit any more!!!!. And since the daily number is not live anymore it makes you think if something is fishy is going on there!!! Could those video's be in a big database some where and when they want to pick the number they njust roll the vidoe file. It makes me think. is all this money I'm wasting ever going to pay off or is it just another tax on the poor. Thinking about quitting and goint to GA.
Moving to Georgia sounds like a good new strategy..........
Collectively, Peach State inhabitants spent $3.4 billion on lottery tickets over the past year -- an average of $470.73 per adult. That amounted to a full 1% of their annual income, ensuring the state a high ranking on Bloomberg's "sucker index." But it was its low rate of winning lottery payouts (62.9%) that really pushed Georgia over the top and won it the biggest-sucker prize.
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Just to clear things up, my posts aren't to discourage anyone from taking a shot at the PB, oaky. I like to see when people win because the odds are almost infinitely against the players. My point is to try and help players understand the value of their money and to spend it wisely on this game. Yeah, they raised the price of it without warrant, in my opinion, but that doesn't mean not to play. You'll just have to settle for less lines.
As I've said before, I've come within (1) to (2) numbers of every winning number on a single line with playing only (5) lines...$5. I've also matched (3) numbers with the same $5 several times...all on QP's. With this game, it's not about the money. It's about playing within reason and hoping (allowing) the winning numbers hit you somehow. If you go back and read the stories, you'll see how most winners were very passive when they played and not even expecting to win...then BAM!!!!
Trying excessively hard to win this game only drains a person's pockets. Real talk. Just tryin' to help.