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Could We Use Another Big Game Lottery??

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Posted: August 7, 2012, 12:18 pm - IP Logged

I'll bet some of the same ideas for multi-state lottery games being discussed here were discussed at MUSL meetings.

MUSL currently has six multi-state games including MM and PB. Hot Lotto is played in 14 states and in D.C., Wild Card 2 is played in four less populated states, 2by2 is played in three states, and MegaHits is a slot machine type game played in casinos in three states. Those four games all have smaller jackpots but it still gives the players  the chance to win a nice jackpot with better odds in states without jackpot games. Wild Card 2 is a twice a week 5/31 + 1/16 game with a current jackpot of $440.000 and overall odds of 1 in 6.16 of winning something.

In the past, MUSL tried nine other multi-state games so the idea of creating a third large jackpot games has probably been discussed many times by the membership.

Perhaps they want as many "big games" as they can get but unfortunately for them "they didnt choose the games, the games chose them"

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    Posted: August 7, 2012, 12:46 pm - IP Logged

    Neither PB or MM are National lottery games because all winning tickets must be cashed in the state where they were bought.

    If your idea of a national lottery games is buying a winning ticket in California and cashing it in New York then there will never be a national game. 

    Buying a winning ticket in California and getting a check from California that you can cash in New York is as close as it will ever get.

    I probably should have said neither PB or MM are "TRUE" National lottery games.

    "If your idea of a national lottery games is buying a winning ticket in California and cashing it in New York then there will never be a national game."

    You and I can both play PB and MM, using the same numbers, use the same results, and get paid the same amount, but the tickets are bought and the prizes are paid by two different states. The jackpot is created by multi-state participation but the jackpot winnings are paid by the state where the ticket was purchased. Even though we're both playing the same game, you're playing Ohio MM and PB and I'm playing Kentucky MM and PB.

    I was thinking more of legally wagering online by buying tickets for games I can't buy in Kentucky. When more states lotteries offer online play, the next step will be to create reciprocal agreements with other other states with online play. It won't happen overnight but Illinois players could open accounts in GA and Illinois and the GA players could do the same.

    This afternoon I can legally bet on a horse race online in another state like Ohio (or in another country) but I can't make a bet on RC5 without going into Ohio and buying a ticket. It's just another example of the hypocrisy in our gaming laws and hopefully in the future the hypocrisy won't exist.


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      Posted: August 7, 2012, 1:05 pm - IP Logged

      I probably should have said neither PB or MM are "TRUE" National lottery games.

      "If your idea of a national lottery games is buying a winning ticket in California and cashing it in New York then there will never be a national game."

      You and I can both play PB and MM, using the same numbers, use the same results, and get paid the same amount, but the tickets are bought and the prizes are paid by two different states. The jackpot is created by multi-state participation but the jackpot winnings are paid by the state where the ticket was purchased. Even though we're both playing the same game, you're playing Ohio MM and PB and I'm playing Kentucky MM and PB.

      I was thinking more of legally wagering online by buying tickets for games I can't buy in Kentucky. When more states lotteries offer online play, the next step will be to create reciprocal agreements with other other states with online play. It won't happen overnight but Illinois players could open accounts in GA and Illinois and the GA players could do the same.

      This afternoon I can legally bet on a horse race online in another state like Ohio (or in another country) but I can't make a bet on RC5 without going into Ohio and buying a ticket. It's just another example of the hypocrisy in our gaming laws and hopefully in the future the hypocrisy won't exist.

      The hypocrisy is seen in the fact that the states are offering gambling in the first place.

      Since when are the states in the business of running "for profit" operations?


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        Posted: August 7, 2012, 1:52 pm - IP Logged

        The hypocrisy is seen in the fact that the states are offering gambling in the first place.

        Since when are the states in the business of running "for profit" operations?

        Another big joke are the states that sell hard liquor at their huge warehouse like super stores, like it was Kool-Aid.

        My state of NH is very, very tough on DWI, takes out big ads on TV and radio to scare the sh*t out of you!!!

         

        We have some of the largest liquor stores, both in size and locations in the nation. Every couple of exits off the highway, gigantic state

        liquor store signs inviting you to stop in to restock your bars.

         

        What kind of BS hypocrisy is that.  What?  Of course while your there, might as well stock up on your scratchers and on-line lottery tickets as well.  Yes Nod

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          Posted: August 7, 2012, 1:54 pm - IP Logged

          The hypocrisy is seen in the fact that the states are offering gambling in the first place.

          Since when are the states in the business of running "for profit" operations?

          True government hypocrisy is funding an open air baseball stadium through extra taxes on cigarettes sales and making the stadium "non smoking".

          "Thank you, smokers for paying for OUR stadium, but you're not welcomed here".

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            Posted: August 7, 2012, 2:52 pm - IP Logged

            True government hypocrisy is funding an open air baseball stadium through extra taxes on cigarettes sales and making the stadium "non smoking".

            "Thank you, smokers for paying for OUR stadium, but you're not welcomed here".

            Same with lottery.  Players voluntarily pay a pretty big tax to fund schools.  I'd guess I'm a lesser player, and even I give them several hundred a year.  Then should you happen to win they say "Oh you didn't voluntarily pay enough extra already, now give us a  big chunk of your winnings."

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              Posted: August 7, 2012, 3:20 pm - IP Logged

              Same with lottery.  Players voluntarily pay a pretty big tax to fund schools.  I'd guess I'm a lesser player, and even I give them several hundred a year.  Then should you happen to win they say "Oh you didn't voluntarily pay enough extra already, now give us a  big chunk of your winnings."

              Good example!

              Many states justified having a lottery because the profits will go to education but failed to say the profits are only a drop in a bucket compared to the states educational budget. That hypocrisy might extend to some players who justify their lottery spendings because of where the profits go too.

              Personally, I don't care who gets my losses as long as they can pay me my winnings.

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                Posted: August 7, 2012, 3:34 pm - IP Logged

                Same with lottery.  Players voluntarily pay a pretty big tax to fund schools.  I'd guess I'm a lesser player, and even I give them several hundred a year.  Then should you happen to win they say "Oh you didn't voluntarily pay enough extra already, now give us a  big chunk of your winnings."

                I feel that lotteries represent the redistribution of wealth. Lotteries redistribute taxes through winnings.

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