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bobby623's avatar - abstract
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Posted: November 14, 2012, 4:16 pm - IP Logged

Pick 4 Doubles, Part 2.

Part 1 provided a useful method for tracking lottery number doubles for
players making "Box" bets.

That is, where the digits appear in the 4-digit combination isn't that important.
Having a match pays a minimum prize, depending on the wager.

In Texas, matching the double with a 50 cents bet pays $100.

Lottery players wanting to make Exact bets for the highest prizes, up to $5,000, need more information.

There are six possible double digit arrangements in every Pick 4 numbers game.

P1P2, P1P3,P1P4; P2P3, P2P4,P3P4.

To minimize confusing with the digits, the following alphabetical arrangements are
recommended:

Alpha Pairs = AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD.

Similarly to the digits, the position possibilities should be tracked in the order in
which they occur.

Using the active/inactive cell logging  method previously presented for the digits, here is a typical tracking chart.

There are six  Alpha Pairs, therefore, there are six Active Cells.
There are six Active cells, therefore, there are six Gap numbers.

Procedures:

Using graph paper, enter the following column headers.

L#   AP  G
....  AB  .
....  AC  .
....  AD  .
....  BC  .
....  BD  .
....  CD  .

L# - There are four possible positions for the repeating digits, as indicated by the four dots.
AP - Alpha Pairs in alphabetic order. There are six possibilities
G - Gap number
* The Gap number is the number of active cells between identical Alpha Pairs, not counting
any inactive cells.

Next four Alpha Pairs are AC, BD, AB, BD.

Follow the exact same procedures outlined for tracking individual repeat digits.

Thus:

L#   AP  G
....  AB .
....  AC  .
....  AD  .
....  BC  .
....  BD  .
....  CD  .
#.#. AC 5
.#.# BD 3
##.. AB 6
.#.# BD 2

Entering digits in the L# column is optional.

The Gap numbers are NOT marked off.

Separate Inventory charts should be established for the Alpha Pairs and
the Gap numbers.

HotSheets

The inventory totals can identify Alpha Pairs that have a tendency to come up more
often, or tend to lag.

However, similarly to the digits, there is no history information.
For example, if 'BC' has the highest inventory total, was this achieved over an
extended period of time, 'hot' streaks, etc.

It's difficult to know where a lottery game is headed if we don't have information
about where it's been.

A HotSheet is used to provide the answers on the behavior of each of the six
Alpha Pairs.

Thus: (Following previously explained procedures)

Using graph paper

AB        * 1
AC * 1 2 3
AD
BC
BD    * 1 *
CD

The line totals are increased by one each time an Asterisk is added on any line.
Eventually, a player will have pretty good idea about which Alpha Pairs are
running 'hot' or lagging, or whatever.

Here are the actual last five  End of Line totals for Texas Daily 4:

AB  2 3 4 5 *
AC 15 16 * * 1
BC 15 16 17 18 19
AD 5 * 1 2 3
BC * 1 2 3 4
BD 6 7 8 9 10
CD 3 4 5 6 7

Will line up on graph paper. 

Note: Only one * per column; all of the End-of-Line totals are different.

Analysis

Alpha Pair 'AC' was lagging and then hit twice in a row.
BC is really lagging and is probably  good candidate for the next double. In fact, I'm currently
playing it in all my Daily 4 games.
BD is also lagging.

Pick 4 games also feature combinations with triple digits (ie. 3033) and quads (ie. 4444).
However, these combinations don't come up very often and I make no attempt to
track them.

A final question now is - How did I  choose the non-repeating digits in a doubles combination.

Where did the '3' and '2' in '3002' come from.

I decided on an arrangement using the Gap Number Structures, Column VI, of my Base Foundation for Texas Daily 4.

Using my New Substitite Lottery System Pick 4 workout, I determined that I needed a
Gap structure having a double 'R'

There are six possibilities: 2002/AARR, 0202/BBRR, 0022/CCRR, 0112/BCRR, 1012/ACRR,  1102/ABRR.

Using other tracking data, I had decided on Alpha Pair 'BC', which required I
place the 'Rs' in the second and third  positions. |

Thus: ARRA, BRRB CRRC, CRRB, CRRA and BRRA.

The Playsheet entries for the date I chose the winning combination were:

16   1A * 5      24 4B 24 6    37 7C  1  4
  3   2A 3 9      21 5B 10 8    19 8C 13 3
29   3A 4 1      32 6B 9   7    22 9C 15 2   20 0R 2 0

Using other tracking charts and followers, my intuition, experience, common sense,
imagination, etc, I chose '8C' and '9C' which indicated I should play lottery numbers
'3' and '2'.

I put the '3' in the first position and the '2' in the fourth position.

Thus: '3002'

Please refer to New Substitution Lottery System posts for more information.
I've already explained how the workout works for Pick 3 and Pick 4.

Bobby623

 

 

I'm ready to field any questions you have.

Bobby

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    Posted: November 14, 2012, 7:59 pm - IP Logged

    Pick 4 Doubles, Part 2.

    Part 1 provided a useful method for tracking lottery number doubles for
    players making "Box" bets.

    That is, where the digits appear in the 4-digit combination isn't that important.
    Having a match pays a minimum prize, depending on the wager.

    In Texas, matching the double with a 50 cents bet pays $100.

    Lottery players wanting to make Exact bets for the highest prizes, up to $5,000, need more information.

    There are six possible double digit arrangements in every Pick 4 numbers game.

    P1P2, P1P3,P1P4; P2P3, P2P4,P3P4.

    To minimize confusing with the digits, the following alphabetical arrangements are
    recommended:

    Alpha Pairs = AB, AC, AD, BC, BD, CD.

    Similarly to the digits, the position possibilities should be tracked in the order in
    which they occur.

    Using the active/inactive cell logging  method previously presented for the digits, here is a typical tracking chart.

    There are six  Alpha Pairs, therefore, there are six Active Cells.
    There are six Active cells, therefore, there are six Gap numbers.

    Procedures:

    Using graph paper, enter the following column headers.

    L#   AP  G
    ....  AB  .
    ....  AC  .
    ....  AD  .
    ....  BC  .
    ....  BD  .
    ....  CD  .

    L# - There are four possible positions for the repeating digits, as indicated by the four dots.
    AP - Alpha Pairs in alphabetic order. There are six possibilities
    G - Gap number
    * The Gap number is the number of active cells between identical Alpha Pairs, not counting
    any inactive cells.

    Next four Alpha Pairs are AC, BD, AB, BD.

    Follow the exact same procedures outlined for tracking individual repeat digits.

    Thus:

    L#   AP  G
    ....  AB .
    ....  AC  .
    ....  AD  .
    ....  BC  .
    ....  BD  .
    ....  CD  .
    #.#. AC 5
    .#.# BD 3
    ##.. AB 6
    .#.# BD 2

    Entering digits in the L# column is optional.

    The Gap numbers are NOT marked off.

    Separate Inventory charts should be established for the Alpha Pairs and
    the Gap numbers.

    HotSheets

    The inventory totals can identify Alpha Pairs that have a tendency to come up more
    often, or tend to lag.

    However, similarly to the digits, there is no history information.
    For example, if 'BC' has the highest inventory total, was this achieved over an
    extended period of time, 'hot' streaks, etc.

    It's difficult to know where a lottery game is headed if we don't have information
    about where it's been.

    A HotSheet is used to provide the answers on the behavior of each of the six
    Alpha Pairs.

    Thus: (Following previously explained procedures)

    Using graph paper

    AB        * 1
    AC * 1 2 3
    AD
    BC
    BD    * 1 *
    CD

    The line totals are increased by one each time an Asterisk is added on any line.
    Eventually, a player will have pretty good idea about which Alpha Pairs are
    running 'hot' or lagging, or whatever.

    Here are the actual last five  End of Line totals for Texas Daily 4:

    AB  2 3 4 5 *
    AC 15 16 * * 1
    BC 15 16 17 18 19
    AD 5 * 1 2 3
    BC * 1 2 3 4
    BD 6 7 8 9 10
    CD 3 4 5 6 7

    Will line up on graph paper. 

    Note: Only one * per column; all of the End-of-Line totals are different.

    Analysis

    Alpha Pair 'AC' was lagging and then hit twice in a row.
    BC is really lagging and is probably  good candidate for the next double. In fact, I'm currently
    playing it in all my Daily 4 games.
    BD is also lagging.

    Pick 4 games also feature combinations with triple digits (ie. 3033) and quads (ie. 4444).
    However, these combinations don't come up very often and I make no attempt to
    track them.

    A final question now is - How did I  choose the non-repeating digits in a doubles combination.

    Where did the '3' and '2' in '3002' come from.

    I decided on an arrangement using the Gap Number Structures, Column VI, of my Base Foundation for Texas Daily 4.

    Using my New Substitite Lottery System Pick 4 workout, I determined that I needed a
    Gap structure having a double 'R'

    There are six possibilities: 2002/AARR, 0202/BBRR, 0022/CCRR, 0112/BCRR, 1012/ACRR,  1102/ABRR.

    Using other tracking data, I had decided on Alpha Pair 'BC', which required I
    place the 'Rs' in the second and third  positions. |

    Thus: ARRA, BRRB CRRC, CRRB, CRRA and BRRA.

    The Playsheet entries for the date I chose the winning combination were:

    16   1A * 5      24 4B 24 6    37 7C  1  4
      3   2A 3 9      21 5B 10 8    19 8C 13 3
    29   3A 4 1      32 6B 9   7    22 9C 15 2   20 0R 2 0

    Using other tracking charts and followers, my intuition, experience, common sense,
    imagination, etc, I chose '8C' and '9C' which indicated I should play lottery numbers
    '3' and '2'.

    I put the '3' in the first position and the '2' in the fourth position.

    Thus: '3002'

    Please refer to New Substitution Lottery System posts for more information.
    I've already explained how the workout works for Pick 3 and Pick 4.

    Bobby623

     

     

    I'm ready to field any questions you have.

    Bobby

    Hi, bobby623:

    It's a real good idea! It should be much better if the method can be run by using software such Excel, ...etc.

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      Isn't this like making a skip and hit chart ?

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        Isn't this like making a skip and hit chart ?

        Not familiar with 'skip and hit' charts. I imagine they track the digits and compute the spacing, which is an effective way of choosing
        numbers to play.


        One thing is clear about lottery analysis is that most 'terms' have multiple definitions.

        Gaps, skips, spacers, jumps, leap frogging, etc, take your pick.
        I started using Gaps long before LP was born!

        I just hope regular pick 4 lottery players snap on to the fact that there are tools available that could help improve their win/loss ratio.

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          Not familiar with 'skip and hit' charts. I imagine they track the digits and compute the spacing, which is an effective way of choosing
          numbers to play.


          One thing is clear about lottery analysis is that most 'terms' have multiple definitions.

          Gaps, skips, spacers, jumps, leap frogging, etc, take your pick.
          I started using Gaps long before LP was born!

          I just hope regular pick 4 lottery players snap on to the fact that there are tools available that could help improve their win/loss ratio.

          I Agree!

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            Posted: November 15, 2012, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

            this absolutely calls for an excel or open office apache chart.

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              Posted: November 15, 2012, 7:41 pm - IP Logged

              this absolutely calls for an excel or open office apache chart.

              Sounds like the technical kind of stuff winsumlosesum does but dont see him round much anymore..

              WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

              RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

              I think I can I think I can!!!!

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                Isn't this like making a skip and hit chart ?

                I agree..I can relate to that..but what Bobby has presented is over my head..i get the concept, but not the details!

                have a great winning day!

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                  I agree..I can relate to that..but what Bobby has presented is over my head..i get the concept, but not the details!

                  Hi ONEDAY!

                  I think you are underestimating your abilities.
                  If you would get some graph paper, list 10 digits, and then start adding new digits one by one, following my instructions.
                  you would catch on pretty fast.
                  Certainly you know how to start and maintain an inventory where you increase the appropriate tally when you add a digit and/or gap
                  number.
                  Tracking charts are used to realign known data to improve interpretation.

                  Give it try - you don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of your time.
                  Missing some TV shows won't cause you any harm.

                  Computerized lottery systems are attractive, but they will never provide the satisfaction one gets by using personal abilities to
                  choose numbers to play.

                  True, you won't win everytime - nobody does.

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                    Hey Bobby, I have been reading your system and have a question. Where did the 6, 2, 1, 4, 5, come from from the start. Then at the end, you come up with another 6. I have all the d4 in a spreadsheet color coded all the doubles, I have the graft paper. But were are you getting the numbers to enter in your hot sheet. Iam very interested in your system and see a great possibility of hitting big. I will continue following your thread.

                    Danny

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                      Hey Bobby, I have been reading your system and have a question. Where did the 6, 2, 1, 4, 5, come from from the start. Then at the end, you come up with another 6. I have all the d4 in a spreadsheet color coded all the doubles, I have the graft paper. But were are you getting the numbers to enter in your hot sheet. Iam very interested in your system and see a great possibility of hitting big. I will continue following your thread.

                      Danny

                      Hi

                      I used arbitrary digits for demonstration purposes,

                      The HotSheet entries also  arbitrary.

                      To use actual data, I would have had to dig real deep into by worksheets.
                      Not necessary for demonstration purposes.

                      If you are in Texas, you can use the Texas Daily 4 positional data HotSheet as a start.

                      If not in Texas, then your data will begin with initial pick 4 combination that you process.


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                        Hey bobby! The number 8 in pick three NY is in a flag formation in position two.

                        Any feelings about this?

                        I think it could be a good pattern to watch for.

                        Good luck in your game, look forward to reading more of your threads.

                        (Two bad I couldn't figure out the other two numbers!)Roll Eyes

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                          Posted: November 16, 2012, 10:39 pm - IP Logged

                          Danny

                          Those 4 HotSheet entries  AC BD AB and BD are for doubles beginning on 1109-- 2120, 1217 4465 5451

                          But, you really need to go back further and get some experience.
                          Hard to read the 'tea leaves' so to speak with just a few entries.

                          You said you had all the doubles = go ahead and process them all


                          Believe 'BC' is due. Im using it for my current double selections.

                          Good luck

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                            Hey bobby! The number 8 in pick three NY is in a flag formation in position two.

                            Any feelings about this?

                            I think it could be a good pattern to watch for.

                            Good luck in your game, look forward to reading more of your threads.

                            (Two bad I couldn't figure out the other two numbers!)Roll Eyes

                            LottoBoner

                            Sorry, cant help you.
                            I don't have any tracking charts for New York lotteries.
                            I'm sure their Pick 3 winning combinations don't match Texas.
                            Some folks believe you can play one state against another, but I wouldn't bet money on it.


                            Yes, picking those side digits for Pick 3 and Pick 4 doubles is a challenge.
                            I sometime pair up the digits I think are due. Works sometimes, or not.

                            I've not done any research on 'flag formations'

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                              Hello bobby, you can include the sum of delays, both per pair or four numbers of pick4
                              Example by any of pick4
                              Sure does not enter the final draw in the study because it has delayed
                              example =
                              4581 = draw
                              9115 = 16 = sum delays
                              The values below are the delays (longer delays, of course) is then the sum of the values of the delay in this example = 16 gave the sum, the sum can be made horizontal and vertical sum with 4 draws,
                              When is dismembered in par example par 45
                                                                                            Delay = 1 3 4 = sum
                              You can add delays of each pair horizontally and vertically with two draws,
                                Goal is to have the total sum of the delays of the 4 didgitos pick4 and peers in the horizontal and vertical sweepstakes