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OK. I got ya now. This was the idea that i liked so much. I love this idea.

It seems most of the math people are elsewhere, but I'll be right here keeping up with this.

Lay it to it.

The system is simple.  Its  0 1 2 3 4 at its most simplistic. Visualized within two dimensions. By several different variables.

I noticed you are already aware of this from some of your posts which i have read.

It is more of a system for Jackpot games as opposed to pick 3 and pick 4


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    The system is simple.  Its  0 1 2 3 4 at its most simplistic. Visualized within two dimensions. By several different variables.

    I noticed you are already aware of this from some of your posts which i have read.

    It is more of a system for Jackpot games as opposed to pick 3 and pick 4

    I believe its applicable to almost any pick 5 and pick 6 game.

     

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    #REF!

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    Here is a line breakdown by Vtracking.  There is some interesting ratios within.

    Specifically the

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      The system is simple.  Its  0 1 2 3 4 at its most simplistic. Visualized within two dimensions. By several different variables.

      I noticed you are already aware of this from some of your posts which i have read.

      It is more of a system for Jackpot games as opposed to pick 3 and pick 4

      Yes. The 3 and 4 wouldn't have much use for it because of the constant repeats, but the larger games, now that's a different story. This could be exactly what they need. I also noticed with the youtube link there was a Fibonacci video on the other choices. I've seen some really good things testing with that also. It, used correctly can do some major damage to the process of elimination. I mean some major damage.

      I've been dabbling with it, yes. That 0 can wreak some havock, that's for sure. It's transparent, but strong.

      Let me do some thinking on this for a bit and see if i can add anything to it. The ideas are flooding right now.

      Don't wanna just jump right in and hijcak or anything, and won't, but may have an idea that could go along with this.

      You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

      “Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
      When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

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        Yes. The 3 and 4 wouldn't have much use for it because of the constant repeats, but the larger games, now that's a different story. This could be exactly what they need. I also noticed with the youtube link there was a Fibonacci video on the other choices. I've seen some really good things testing with that also. It, used correctly can do some major damage to the process of elimination. I mean some major damage.

        I've been dabbling with it, yes. That 0 can wreak some havock, that's for sure. It's transparent, but strong.

        Let me do some thinking on this for a bit and see if i can add anything to it. The ideas are flooding right now.

        Don't wanna just jump right in and hijcak or anything, and won't, but may have an idea that could go along with this.

        Yes I know the feeling about too many ideas flooding in.  Too many ideas can often get in the way of a good workout or a good win.

        But I am willing to take a tackle at your game also. (Pick five/six) with simpest theories first.

        Feel free to jump in.  My enthusiasm often waxes and wanes, but I always try to get back on the horse.

        What is great is that this method of visualizing random really can break down the odds in the "larger more ominous games".

        Which can invariably lead to confidence in wheeling.  Which is a larger budget type approach.  Or rather a more agressive type betting approach.

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        If you hijack my thread, I will get chuck norris and the delta force after you.Jester Laugh

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          Yes I know the feeling about too many ideas flooding in.  Too many ideas can often get in the way of a good workout or a good win.

          But I am willing to take a tackle at your game also. (Pick five/six) with simpest theories first.

          Feel free to jump in.  My enthusiasm often waxes and wanes, but I always try to get back on the horse.

          What is great is that this method of visualizing random really can break down the odds in the "larger more ominous games".

          Which can invariably lead to confidence in wheeling.  Which is a larger budget type approach.  Or rather a more agressive type betting approach.

          P.S.

          If you hijack my thread, I will get chuck norris and the delta force after you.Jester Laugh

          I actually have more data on the PB. This with the 3 and 4 just kinda grabbed me back in and i ran with it to where i am now. What I'm doing with the 3 and 4 actually rooted off my PB work. 

          Same here man. It's taxing when you throw away a decent size win over a stupid insight. And with the way my brain functions at times, with over load, it makes it hard to stay focused.

          But on to the subject at hand,,,,

          With the spacing, instead of distance in the numbers, you see what is actually going on. On the inside. To win at these games it's going to have to be disected, torn apart and examined to see how it works. Then you put it back together as you see it. That's what I've been working on with the 3 and it just turned into the 4. But the spacing, i think will allow that to be done.

          With the 5 and larger games where you have the double digits, breaking them down into their natural state also helps. Their whole number state. And that's where the 0 comes into effect and does it's thing. When you break them down into singular formation, it kind of cuts down the pressure of having all those double digits. I look at it like going up against an army. If your up against 59 or however many in the draw, then 10 looks like a whole lot better odds to go against. The doubles all come from the singles. With the PB, I've noticed that a lot of times they are actually the same number that hits per draw. Sometimes not, but a lot of times the same. It's usually when that 0 comes into effect that it just looks like they are different.

          Have you thought about setting it up with like three sheets in excel? Maybe one for subtraced sums, one for added sums, and one for the numbers themselves? Something to that effect.

          The wheeling, I've never done. Never thought to try it. If I'm working on it, or anything else, i have to break it down and see how i works. That could just be me. But that's where that Fib. comes into play. What if i told you there was a way to use it that could actually pin point a number? I've been to busy with the 3 and 4 trying to figure it out, because of whatever reason that it stays on my brain, but have seen that it is more than very possible to use the Fib. to do that. Just playing around with it the other night and used it to pick the last two numbers in the cash 5 here. Without any wheeling or second guesing.

           

          I've been craving to see that movie. Don't know why. Just haven't seen it in a while.

          You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

          “Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
          When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

          -Arnold (Ahnald) Schwarzenegger-

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            The true question is, how many bunnies are eaten by foxes? What if there was no fox in Australia and prince Charles was hunting foxes in England?


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              @fox, yes i will probably have to start a new excel spreadsheet for this experiment.  Something simpler.

              I already have a huge spreadsheet, but its not macro enabled, and i am not sure if it can be enabled at this point.

              It would be easier to build from ground up.  Your idea about breaking down the double digits is interesting and could be incorporated somehow.  At least after the first two dimension have been categorized and broken down.

              @ serge, i think that was real problem in australia with the bunnies, and no indigenous predators.  (Or was that froggies that got out of control.  Stay on topic.  If you have a fibonacci sequence of 0 : 1 and are looking for phi ratio,

              how do you deal with the first calculation of 1 divided by 0?

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                @fox, yes i will probably have to start a new excel spreadsheet for this experiment.  Something simpler.

                I already have a huge spreadsheet, but its not macro enabled, and i am not sure if it can be enabled at this point.

                It would be easier to build from ground up.  Your idea about breaking down the double digits is interesting and could be incorporated somehow.  At least after the first two dimension have been categorized and broken down.

                @ serge, i think that was real problem in australia with the bunnies, and no indigenous predators.  (Or was that froggies that got out of control.  Stay on topic.  If you have a fibonacci sequence of 0 : 1 and are looking for phi ratio,

                how do you deal with the first calculation of 1 divided by 0?

                Where do you want to apply the golden ratio? A lotto ball is no couple of horny bunnies and a skip can't be 1.6.


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                  Where do you want to apply the golden ratio? A lotto ball is no couple of horny bunnies and a skip can't be 1.6.

                  Thats a good question SergeM.  I will try to show how I apply the golden ratio.  In two dimensions.

                  I knew i shouldn't have named the thread phitality.

                  I should have named it the Horny Bunny Lotto Method.Green laugh


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                    The phi ratio is 1.618, which would be perfect, but you dont get that in every draw.

                    So if you have skips of 1 2 3 5 8

                    That would be a perfect ratio. 

                    But lotto is not a perfect science so you just try to be close and lucky.

                    I will try to measure the skips of each draw and see the deviance from the golden mean.

                    In tonites draw the numbers were  1  2  18  36  38

                    and the skips were 1  25 13 12 3

                    When rearranged the skips are 1  3  12  13  25

                    And the ratio of these skips are?   TBD

                    I will try and write a formula in excel to do this calculation for me.


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                      If you take the numbers drawn.  1  2  18  36  38

                      and take the spacing between numbers you have   0 15 17 1

                      rearranged as 0  1  15  17

                      so we can find the ratio of these numbers as, TBD.

                      I will try it on paper first and post back the results.

                      Also I have to start my new spreadsheet, and maybe get some excel help.

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                        If you take the numbers drawn.  1  2  18  36  38

                        and take the spacing between numbers you have   0 15 17 1

                        rearranged as 0  1  15  17

                        so we can find the ratio of these numbers as, TBD.

                        I will try it on paper first and post back the results.

                        Also I have to start my new spreadsheet, and maybe get some excel help.

                        Are those the just drawn numbers for there?

                        I don't know a whole lot about excel, but if there is something i can help with I'll try.

                        You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

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                          Are those the just drawn numbers for there?

                          I don't know a whole lot about excel, but if there is something i can help with I'll try.

                          Yes Nod

                           

                          1/25/13

                          23

                          25

                          27

                          30

                          34

                          1

                          1

                          2

                          3

                          E   2 O 3

                          1/26/13

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                          15

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                          30

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                          E   2 O 3

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                            Thats a good question SergeM.  I will try to show how I apply the golden ratio.  In two dimensions.

                            I knew i shouldn't have named the thread phitality.

                            I should have named it the Horny Bunny Lotto Method.Green laugh

                            From a LottoBoner you can only expect a Horny Bunny Lotto Method.


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                              From my other thread statistically speaking certain skip combinations occur more than others and certain skip occur together.

                              The core of the "phi" system is skip ZERO and skip ONE

                              A draw will have a predominance of a skip 0/1 mix over time.  Of course it goes in streaks, and we are in one in NY.

                              So you can reduce your number sets if you are a wheeling aficionado.

                              Skip 0 numbers are the 1  2  18  36  38

                              The skip 1 numbers are 3 10 21 22 23

                              Also a phi approach would lead to a skip mix of  0 1 1 2 5, which has to be timed and backtested.

                              My personal feeling is that either the 1  18  or  38  will repeat, and that the skip one numbers will be either 3 10 or 21.

                               

                              If you were doing a wheeling approach, then you have six numbers for your wheel already and would need to find approximately 9 more numbers to do an affordable wheel with good coverage.