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Posted: March 16, 2013, 2:48 am - IP Logged

Has anyone found an effective way to routinely eliminate numbers? Multi state games only.

Something as simply as removing the prior draw numbers from your selection. How effective is that? What percent does a number repeat draw to draw in say MM?

Food for thought.

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    Posted: March 16, 2013, 8:44 am - IP Logged

    If you had played every previous winning MM combination since the last matrix change 807 drawings ago you would have matched 0+1 twelve times, 1+1 six times, 2+1 once and 3+0 three times at a cost of $806 and you would have won $73.

    It depends on the number of lines you play how effective looking at previous history can be.  I like to play 10-20 lines and think previous history can help me select better combinations to play.

    As far a eliminating bonus numbers to play you'll notice a bonus number seldom follows the same bonus number more than once so that can be helpful in eliminating bonus numbers.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: March 16, 2013, 8:53 am - IP Logged

      A number from the previous draw in MM will repeat itself about 35%-36% of the time.

      A sequence will show up about 39% of the time. see chart below

      xxxx1 & 22 & 33 & 44 & 5xxxx
      09--1083    11
      43--44  32611
      11--1246    10
      39--40113510
      47--48    2810
      06--0763    9
      12--1354    9
      19--20  4419
      35--3612519
      03--0471    8
      27--2812238
      48--49    358
      51--52    178
      52--53    268
      32--33  3317
      53--54    257
      01--026      6
      04--0542    6
      08--0951    6
      22--23231  6
      26--27  2316
      30--31  2316
      31--32  3126
      33--34  2316
      37--38  1146
      41--42    516
      42--43  1  56
      45--46    516
      46--47    246
      05--065      5
      07--0832    5
      10--1141    5
      15--16221  5
      20--2112115
      24--25113  5
      38--39    415
      02--034      4
      13--1422    4
      16--1722    4
      17--1813    4
      28--291  3  4
      29--30121  4
      36--37  31  4
      40--41  1  34
      44--45    314
      50--51      44
      54--55    134
      55--56      44
      14--152  1  3
      18--19  21  3
      23--24  21  3
      25--26  3    3
      34--35    112
      49--50      22
      21--22        0

      "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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        Posted: March 16, 2013, 8:57 am - IP Logged

        Welcome to the LP AlwaysSunday.......

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          Posted: March 16, 2013, 9:04 am - IP Logged

          Has anyone found an effective way to routinely eliminate numbers? Multi state games only.

          Something as simply as removing the prior draw numbers from your selection. How effective is that? What percent does a number repeat draw to draw in say MM?

          Food for thought.

          I wouldn't necessarily eliminate numbers from the previous draw unless they were picked in consecutive drawings, so I would avoid selecting a number that would have to show up 3 times in a row.

           

          Personally I avoid the "very cold" numbers, which are those that have not come up or have been drawn only once during the past 50 draws. I do sprinkle in moderately cold numbers, or those that have shown up 2-3 times in the previous 50. I focus more on which numbers to include vs exclude by looking at recent history and patterns and making the best guess I possibly can.

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            Posted: March 16, 2013, 9:50 am - IP Logged
            p(drawn)=0.089

            Avg count of repetitions for any drawing: 0.089*5=0.4464

            Reverse: 1 full ball repeating in 2.24 drawings. This is the average.
            Considering that 1 to 5 balls can repeat,
            repetitions, seen by drawing, happen fewer. See Fja's post.
            1-0.614966794=0.39

            numbers repeatingp(repetition)
            5     0,000000262 
            4     0,000066757 
            3     0,003337857 
            2     0,054518333 
            1     0,327109997 
            0     0,614966794 

            I didn't look for alpha or beta.

            Are we dealing with mathematical randomness?

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              Posted: March 16, 2013, 10:14 am - IP Logged

              Today is Saturday.


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                Posted: March 16, 2013, 11:24 am - IP Logged

                Today is Saturday.

                Random selection works best for me. Eliminating 7 numbers from the MM pool is fairly easy. It worked for me in last night's draw. http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/247020/2974114

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                  Posted: March 16, 2013, 11:36 am - IP Logged
                  As I was busy with statistics, doing combinatorics and keeping up a thread for All or nothing, I found that one of my tables came out short in size. I programmed three new functions / methods.

                  Let's say that you split 56 numbers into 3/5 and 2/5, 37 and 19 numbers.
                  You would filter down the combinations to a full selection with 3 out of 37 and 2 out of 19,
                  and it would come out true. Any combination with 3/37 and 2/19! The results would be:

                  012345
                  81382422888813872136341

                  If the outcome was 2/37 and 3/19, the results would be:

                  012345
                  7854001428004200000


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                    Posted: March 16, 2013, 11:43 am - IP Logged

                    If you start with a group of 35 that holds the winning 5 MM numbers, and eliminate 7 randomly, you end up with a group of 28 and have eliminated almost 98% of the possible (5 of 5) combinations.

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                      If you split in groups of 12 11 11 11 11 (56 numbers).
                      If every group scores 1 for 1.

                      012345
                      110000100001000100101

                      Combinations:

                      121111

                      * price combination

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                        If you start with a group of 35 that holds the winning 5 MM numbers, and eliminate 7 randomly, you end up with a group of 28 and have eliminated almost 98% of the possible (5 of 5) combinations.

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                          Did I win?


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                            Today is Saturday.

                            Tomorrow is Sunday.

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                              Did I win?

                              I don't know the payouts and the taxes.

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