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# Number elimination.

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Has anyone found an effective way to routinely eliminate numbers? Multi state games only.

Something as simply as removing the prior draw numbers from your selection. How effective is that? What percent does a number repeat draw to draw in say MM?

Food for thought.

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If you had played every previous winning MM combination since the last matrix change 807 drawings ago you would have matched 0+1 twelve times, 1+1 six times, 2+1 once and 3+0 three times at a cost of \$806 and you would have won \$73.

It depends on the number of lines you play how effective looking at previous history can be.  I like to play 10-20 lines and think previous history can help me select better combinations to play.

As far a eliminating bonus numbers to play you'll notice a bonus number seldom follows the same bonus number more than once so that can be helpful in eliminating bonus numbers.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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A number from the previous draw in MM will repeat itself about 35%-36% of the time.

A sequence will show up about 39% of the time. see chart below

 xxxx 1 & 2 2 & 3 3 & 4 4 & 5 xxxx 09--10 8 3 11 43--44 3 2 6 11 11--12 4 6 10 39--40 1 1 3 5 10 47--48 2 8 10 06--07 6 3 9 12--13 5 4 9 19--20 4 4 1 9 35--36 1 2 5 1 9 03--04 7 1 8 27--28 1 2 2 3 8 48--49 3 5 8 51--52 1 7 8 52--53 2 6 8 32--33 3 3 1 7 53--54 2 5 7 01--02 6 6 04--05 4 2 6 08--09 5 1 6 22--23 2 3 1 6 26--27 2 3 1 6 30--31 2 3 1 6 31--32 3 1 2 6 33--34 2 3 1 6 37--38 1 1 4 6 41--42 5 1 6 42--43 1 5 6 45--46 5 1 6 46--47 2 4 6 05--06 5 5 07--08 3 2 5 10--11 4 1 5 15--16 2 2 1 5 20--21 1 2 1 1 5 24--25 1 1 3 5 38--39 4 1 5 02--03 4 4 13--14 2 2 4 16--17 2 2 4 17--18 1 3 4 28--29 1 3 4 29--30 1 2 1 4 36--37 3 1 4 40--41 1 3 4 44--45 3 1 4 50--51 4 4 54--55 1 3 4 55--56 4 4 14--15 2 1 3 18--19 2 1 3 23--24 2 1 3 25--26 3 3 34--35 1 1 2 49--50 2 2 21--22 0

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Has anyone found an effective way to routinely eliminate numbers? Multi state games only.

Something as simply as removing the prior draw numbers from your selection. How effective is that? What percent does a number repeat draw to draw in say MM?

Food for thought.

I wouldn't necessarily eliminate numbers from the previous draw unless they were picked in consecutive drawings, so I would avoid selecting a number that would have to show up 3 times in a row.

Personally I avoid the "very cold" numbers, which are those that have not come up or have been drawn only once during the past 50 draws. I do sprinkle in moderately cold numbers, or those that have shown up 2-3 times in the previous 50. I focus more on which numbers to include vs exclude by looking at recent history and patterns and making the best guess I possibly can.

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p(drawn)=0.089

Avg count of repetitions for any drawing: 0.089*5=0.4464

Reverse: 1 full ball repeating in 2.24 drawings. This is the average.
Considering that 1 to 5 balls can repeat,
repetitions, seen by drawing, happen fewer. See Fja's post.
1-0.614966794=0.39

 numbers repeating p(repetition) 5 0,000000262 4 0,000066757 3 0,003337857 2 0,054518333 1 0,327109997 0 0,614966794

I didn't look for alpha or beta.

Are we dealing with mathematical randomness?

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Today is Saturday.

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Today is Saturday.

Random selection works best for me. Eliminating 7 numbers from the MM pool is fairly easy. It worked for me in last night's draw. http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/247020/2974114

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As I was busy with statistics, doing combinatorics and keeping up a thread for All or nothing, I found that one of my tables came out short in size. I programmed three new functions / methods.

Let's say that you split 56 numbers into 3/5 and 2/5, 37 and 19 numbers.
You would filter down the combinations to a full selection with 3 out of 37 and 2 out of 19,
and it would come out true. Any combination with 3/37 and 2/19! The results would be:

 0 1 2 3 4 5 813824 228888 13872 136 34 1

If the outcome was 2/37 and 3/19, the results would be:

 0 1 2 3 4 5 785400 142800 4200 0 0 0

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If you start with a group of 35 that holds the winning 5 MM numbers, and eliminate 7 randomly, you end up with a group of 28 and have eliminated almost 98% of the possible (5 of 5) combinations.

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If you split in groups of 12 11 11 11 11 (56 numbers).
If every group scores 1 for 1.

 0 1 2 3 4 5 110000 10000 1000 100 10 1

Combinations:

 121111

* price combination

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If you start with a group of 35 that holds the winning 5 MM numbers, and eliminate 7 randomly, you end up with a group of 28 and have eliminated almost 98% of the possible (5 of 5) combinations.

 nrs set size correct 0 1 2 3 4 5 28 5 5 33649 44275 17710 2530 115 1
• Full system

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 nrs set size correct 0 1 2 3 4 5 28 5 5 33649 44275 17710 2530 115 1
• Full system

Did I win?

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Today is Saturday.

Tomorrow is Sunday.

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Did I win?

I don't know the payouts and the taxes.

Less bright:

 nrs set size correct 0 1 2 3 4 5 28 5 4 42504 42504 12144 1104 24 0

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