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Quote: Originally posted by EMTAdam on Feb 2, 2017
I can confirm that this is not the case, and that you are wrong. =)
My store owner friend, talked to his rep the other day. The warehouse has 0 SM,2MJ and believe it or not... Holiday Millions $10, available. They are all gone. So whatever is out in the wild, is what is left.
I can believe it on SM and 2MJ, but HM threw me for a loop. I have found that game to all of the sudden be impossible to find. HG part 2 for sure.
In a somewhat related note... I went to the bank today... and the car is gassed up. Thats all ill say for now. =)
This is what really worries me about this whole process and questions whether chasing the dwindling books actually offers better odds or not. When you mentioned awhile back the lotto reps would come into the retailer and pick up open books for destruction w/o tallying the book numbers or anything to record what was being taken out of circulation, a lot of us looked at that as shady practices. But now I'm really wondering about the "unopened" books. There's an assumption that when these get picked up, they're just passed onto another retailer, but I'm starting to wonder if a good number of these unopened books actually make it back to any retailer at all, or, more likely end up with the rest of the tickets from the opened books that get destroyed with no trace of roll numbers, etc.
I really do hope one of you guys finds this top prize from one of the winding down games. But so far, we've seen 100X, 50X, and 200MS all definitely supposed to have a winning ticket near the end of the print but in every case, these were never found. 2MJ and SM looks like it's going the same way.
With the craziness that folks like us buy up these remaining tickets, its really hard to see how a grand prize hasn't been found.
I would push for a law or something that at the conclusion of a scratch game after which prizes can't be claimed and the game has truly ended, the manufacture and the FL Lottery should be required to turn over information for the game regarding the status of all roll numbers, grand prizes winning ticket numbers, etc so that every ticket can actually be accounted for and it can be determined what happened to the unclaimed winners (purchases, destroyed, etc). There is no reason in the 21st Century for them not to be able to unite the pieces of information they have at the game's conclusion to produce this report.
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Quote: Originally posted by zzplayfaster on Feb 2, 2017
This is what really worries me about this whole process and questions whether chasing the dwindling books actually offers better odds or not. When you mentioned awhile back the lotto reps would come into the retailer and pick up open books for destruction w/o tallying the book numbers or anything to record what was being taken out of circulation, a lot of us looked at that as shady practices. But now I'm really wondering about the "unopened" books. There's an assumption that when these get picked up, they're just passed onto another retailer, but I'm starting to wonder if a good number of these unopened books actually make it back to any retailer at all, or, more likely end up with the rest of the tickets from the opened books that get destroyed with no trace of roll numbers, etc.
I really do hope one of you guys finds this top prize from one of the winding down games. But so far, we've seen 100X, 50X, and 200MS all definitely supposed to have a winning ticket near the end of the print but in every case, these were never found. 2MJ and SM looks like it's going the same way.
With the craziness that folks like us buy up these remaining tickets, its really hard to see how a grand prize hasn't been found.
I would push for a law or something that at the conclusion of a scratch game after which prizes can't be claimed and the game has truly ended, the manufacture and the FL Lottery should be required to turn over information for the game regarding the status of all roll numbers, grand prizes winning ticket numbers, etc so that every ticket can actually be accounted for and it can be determined what happened to the unclaimed winners (purchases, destroyed, etc). There is no reason in the 21st Century for them not to be able to unite the pieces of information they have at the game's conclusion to produce this report.
Well said.
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I'd be perfectly happy with a law resulting in all tickets being destroyed to be "scanned" out, in order to update the Instant Liability Reports, and the website. If these sources of information were transparent and accurate, at least people would know that there's no prizes remaining. At that point, there wouldn't be a deceptive element in their marketing. There needs to be accountability, and transparency. I'm not necessarily opposed to the destruction of tickets if they update all records, and account for all prices removed out of circulation. If this is too tedious, I wouldn't be opposed a blanket rule like any $1000 and up winner needing to be updated as destroyed in their recordkeeping by law and published, or accessible data to the players. They speak about how transparent their games are, well this is 2017 and the technology is here to implement these types of measures with ease.
What are your thoughts on the old $20 Monopoly Millionaire having it's final prize claimed on book 692k or 693k, when the total print run went up to 754k? The FL Lottery didn't add the $20 Monopoly Millionaire to the ending games list until after the final $3M prize was claimed on that game. Super Millions dodging the "ending games" list this time around still serves as a mystery to me, and makes me think that they believe the final prize is out there, otherwise they would have ended it with the small number of books out there. I still think there's merit in playing SM, perhaps more merit than 2MJ initially, although with the extremely small supply of 2MJ...at this point a person might as well buy up what they can find
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Quote: Originally posted by jasefan on Feb 2, 2017
Nice wins Jase! That $2 Gold Rush Doubler seems to be paying out pretty well.
Here's to hoping your next one will be the $50k jackpot. I'm surprised to see 8 top prizes have already been claimed. Then again, the odds of 1 in 835k is so much better than most other $2 games.
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Thanks! :-) ... nahhhhh my luck is small wins .. I'd have a heart attack over a big win .... I accidently scratched off a wrong win the other day (4 wins on ticket) I did the # above mine and it was 100 or 200 with 3 more to go and my heart almost jumped out of my chest for that (I thought $400)
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Quote: Originally posted by zzplayfaster on Feb 3, 2017
Okay chasers, any news on 2MJ/SM today?
Finished the last 11 tickets at the Stop N Shop Food Store in Miami Gardens.
Book #729k
Awful return. $50/$220.
Finished last 6 tickets at Mercado Oriental in Miami -
Book #709k
$20/$120
Opa Locka Chevron is sold out of SM
Tobacco King in Hialeigh is sold out of SM
Turnpike Station in Miami is sold out of SM
Sarah Small Corportation in Greenacres has 3 tickets of SM remaining
Flame Liquors in Tequesta has 5 tickets of SM remaining
Also, got a nice traffic citation as well from a fender bender while trying to switch lanes, and the woman accelerates to deny me the lane swap (when I clearly had my blinker going and plenty of room to the left and behind me). When checking my mirrors, there was no one behind me for at least 300 FT. When the trooper came, he immediately is biased toward the woman, and hands me a ticket after processing everything. There's some horrible drivers in South FL.
Today was a pretty bad day. The supply in South FL is about to disappear within the next week, aside from what the West Palm district office has which is out of range. The awful return from SM and the lack of availability of it in South FL is putting me back on hiatus.
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Quote: Originally posted by Dracos on Feb 3, 2017
Finished the last 11 tickets at the Stop N Shop Food Store in Miami Gardens.
Book #729k
Awful return. $50/$220.
Finished last 6 tickets at Mercado Oriental in Miami -
Book #709k
$20/$120
Opa Locka Chevron is sold out of SM
Tobacco King in Hialeigh is sold out of SM
Turnpike Station in Miami is sold out of SM
Sarah Small Corportation in Greenacres has 3 tickets of SM remaining
Flame Liquors in Tequesta has 5 tickets of SM remaining
Also, got a nice traffic citation as well from a fender bender while trying to switch lanes, and the woman accelerates to deny me the lane swap (when I clearly had my blinker going and plenty of room to the left and behind me). When checking my mirrors, there was no one behind me for at least 300 FT. When the trooper came, he immediately is biased toward the woman, and hands me a ticket after processing everything. There's some horrible drivers in South FL.
Today was a pretty bad day. The supply in South FL is about to disappear within the next week, aside from what the West Palm district office has which is out of range. The awful return from SM and the lack of availability of it in South FL is putting me back on hiatus.
Do you still have all the SM reports available online back to 1 Dec? The only reports I ever downloaded at the time were for 2MJ, but if I get a chance this weekend I can go and analyze all the locations like I did with 2MJ, but it may take a bit longer with there being more locations/books for SM.
As for South Fl drivers, I'm from South Fl (WPB) and have driven around the country literally everywhere. There are only 3 places that have me terrified to drive and:
(1) NYC-Manhattan (I refuse to ever drive on the island The last time a dump truck slammed into the back of my rental car on 12th Ave). On top of that people will flip you off if you don't cut people off. Interstate 278 is also scary right around the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel, and then there's the Throgs Neck and Bruckner Interchanges that are super scary, and 95-Cross Bronx is a fender-bender parking lot. I thought I'd be smart and took US1 (Fordham Rd) through the Bronx one time. Yeah, I won't be doing that again any time soon. DC, Chicago, and even LA got nothing on NYC traffic. They might be parking lots too, but I've never felt truly scared to drive.
(2) TN-NC Border Roads - US 129, TN 70, The part of US64/74/441 before it becomes an expressway. These curves are sharp and dangerous. Even on the US129 wiki page it tells people about Snake Canyon Rd that drivers usually make the mistake of driving the road once and don't do it again. For motorcycles, it's awesome though. The spanned-bridges got nothing on this road.
(3) South FL - It's like all the idiot drivers in NJ/NY transport down here and they're like "Oh cool, no center-lane jersey barriers, we can actually make real left turns here!" That, along with the excitement of being able to pump one's own gas is a little too much excitement for some and turns them into road-raging maniacs.
And although I've never driven it, there's a YT video showing Mt Evans road which is supposedly the highest paved road in North America that is super narrow with no guardrails. I'm going to probably pass on that road to.
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Quote: Originally posted by jasefan on Feb 2, 2017
Thanks! :-) ... nahhhhh my luck is small wins .. I'd have a heart attack over a big win .... I accidently scratched off a wrong win the other day (4 wins on ticket) I did the # above mine and it was 100 or 200 with 3 more to go and my heart almost jumped out of my chest for that (I thought $400)
I accidentally typed accidently and it keeps bothering me ..... things that wake you up at 3-4am
like trying to figure out where to spend this whopper ;-)
I agree with the list you created of places not to drive. I used to live in NYC 15 years ago, and I remember how awful traffic and driving was there. I wasn't old enough to drive, but I witnessed the exchange of profanity very often. It is the driving culture up there.
Jasefan - Nice $5 win. I like how common those are, if you get $10 worth of tickets there's a decent shot you'll get at least half back with $2 tickets which is great.
Pikachu - I'd probably recommend 5 of the $20 Flamingo, 5 $20 Gold Rush Doubler, or 10 of the $10 Holiday Millions if you can find it in the lower range (50k and under). If you are also considering $2 tickets, I'd say the Fast 100 pays out very well and there's still two top prizes left. It looks like that must be getting close to the end of the print. I've seen book numbers as high 96k in Miami.
I was in the Kendall area yesterday trying to buy SM from one of the gas stations listed as having it, but when I went there they didn't have it. That's also around where I got in my fender bender. I'm down here for a couple more weeks.