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Actually, it was 2 numbers and I just thought the letters were E, L but it was ei, so that made it $100 on just having the vowels, then two numbers were 28, 2, under one 28 was $500, and the 2-2s were $200 each, so total was $1000. When I looked at it now it seems impossible to not see them. One thing I did notice the Wheel of Fortune don't rub off as nice as others do.
90% sold, huh ? I saw a gas station9 (Shell) nearby that had them when I bought my Winning Streak tickets recently, might go back and buy them later today.
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Quote: Originally posted by Dreamer1270 on Jan 23, 2017
Actually, it was 2 numbers and I just thought the letters were E, L but it was ei, so that made it $100 on just having the vowels, then two numbers were 28, 2, under one 28 was $500, and the 2-2s were $200 each, so total was $1000. When I looked at it now it seems impossible to not see them. One thing I did notice the Wheel of Fortune don't rub off as nice as others do.
90% sold, huh ? I saw a gas station9 (Shell) nearby that had them when I bought my Winning Streak tickets recently, might go back and buy them later today.
Yep, the Wheel of Fortune is a pain to scratch. The odds of hitting $1k on it is pretty good compared to other $5 games. Also, it has fairly good odds at $100, better than any other $5 ticket I've seen.
It was 86% sold when I last requested the Instant Liability Report in September. I assume that it is at least 90% sold, it may be closer to 95% sold through now. I'd recommend emailing the FL Lottery to ask for:
1- Up to date Instant Liability Report
2- The winning jackpot book numbers from prizes 1-10. This will allow someone to more strategically target books.
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Been quiet on here lately.
I'll be playing some $2 an $5 scratchers next week. Which ones do y'all recommend?? I was going to do: Fast $100, Gold Rush Doubler, Double Deuces, Monopoly, Flamingo Multiplier, Loteria, Gold Rush, Electric 8's, Loose Change, Lucy. With the $5: WOF, Doubler, Winning Streak, Margaritaville, (if I can find-King's Ransom, Lucky Loot).
Also, are there any $10 ones worth playing at the moment?
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I think we've been making too many assumptions, and putting too much weight into the 720-737k range for Super Millions. I know I personally had a number preference of the very end of the final print based on trends I've seen. I have to give Oldghost credit for being an advocate in defending the random nature in these distributions and avidly arguing for all possibilities.
I just got a reply back from someone very high up in the FL Lottery about the old $20 Monopoly Millionaire game, which had all of it's grand prizes claimed. The final jackpot prize was claimed on book 0693659. The book range went up to: 743999. This means that there were 50,340 books printed after the final jackpot was claimed.
737k - 52k = 685k. We can go further back because of book skipping, so the 670k range is where the final print should start. I know I personally have been walking past Super Millions books in the 670k-680k range in the past. These book ranges are entirely possible for yielding the final jackpot. On the $20 Monopoly Millionaire Game, there was a $500k second place prize that went unclaimed on that game. Without knowing the book numbers of those, it could have been earlier or toward the end of the print and they could have rationalized the additional printing of 50k books with that prize somewhere closer toward the end.
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Quote: Originally posted by Dracos on Jan 23, 2017
I think we've been making too many assumptions, and putting too much weight into the 720-737k range for Super Millions. I know I personally had a number preference of the very end of the final print based on trends I've seen. I have to give Oldghost credit for being an advocate in defending the random nature in these distributions and avidly arguing for all possibilities.
I just got a reply back from someone very high up in the FL Lottery about the old $20 Monopoly Millionaire game, which had all of it's grand prizes claimed. The final jackpot prize was claimed on book 0693659. The book range went up to: 743999. This means that there were 50,340 books printed after the final jackpot was claimed.
737k - 52k = 685k. We can go further back because of book skipping, so the 670k range is where the final print should start. I know I personally have been walking past Super Millions books in the 670k-680k range in the past. These book ranges are entirely possible for yielding the final jackpot. On the $20 Monopoly Millionaire Game, there was a $500k second place prize that went unclaimed on that game. Without knowing the book numbers of those, it could have been earlier or toward the end of the print and they could have rationalized the additional printing of 50k books with that prize somewhere closer toward the end.
Thoughts?
How many actual physical books were printed? ( TotalNumberOfGrandPrizes * TheOddsForAGrandPrize1in... ) / NumberOfTicketsInABook
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Quote: Originally posted by Dracos on Jan 23, 2017
12 top prizes of 3M, 20.16M tickets printed, 672k books printed in total.
Last jackpot (#11) was in the 655k book range. The total print goes up to 737k.
So, in each subset of 56,000 (672,000 / 12) books there is one grand prize. If the highest book number printed is 737,000 then there should be one grand prize in the range of 681,000 to 737,000 (the 681,000 number could go lower depending if any book numbers were skipped in this subset). If the final grand prize was claimed on book number 693,659 then that makes sense since it is within that final set. If they reprint any tickets, it is supposed to be in multiples of 56,000 (for a game with these odds and printings) with one grand prize in each subset.
Not knowing what the skipped book numbers are makes it difficult to get exact number ranges and the skipped numbers may not evenly spaced throughout the entire printing.
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Quote: Originally posted by duckman on Jan 23, 2017
So, in each subset of 56,000 (672,000 / 12) books there is one grand prize. If the highest book number printed is 737,000 then there should be one grand prize in the range of 681,000 to 737,000 (the 681,000 number could go lower depending if any book numbers were skipped in this subset). If the final grand prize was claimed on book number 693,659 then that makes sense since it is within that final set. If they reprint any tickets, it is supposed to be in multiples of 56,000 (for a game with these odds and printings) with one grand prize in each subset.
Not knowing what the skipped book numbers are makes it difficult to get exact number ranges and the skipped numbers may not evenly spaced throughout the entire printing.
The final grand prize on the old $20 Monopoly Millionaire was on 693k. The reason I shared that information is because the total print for that game went to 744k (50k additional books printed roughly). The reason I requested this information from the lottery is because seeing the different prize distributions helped show the lack of predictability in where the final prize can be within a range. From seeing the final prize on the old $20 Monopoly game appearing so early in the final print range, it really opened my eyes to the potential for the final Super Millions prize to also be hit in the 680k range. I don't regret targeting the 730k+ range at all, I mean...it got me two $1k wins, and a $100k win through shear luck. I just thought this was interesting since I know I've walked away from Super Millions books in the 680k range. There's plenty of books in the 680k, and lower 700k range still around...so I'm leaning toward the likelihood that the final Super Millions prize might be at a lottery district office (Jacksonville district office has like 14 books in the high 680k to low 700k range), or if still out there, somewhere in that lower range which has been avoided by many of us hunting the game.
I agree that Super Millions' final grand prize should be in the 680k-737k range (possibly including some of the 670k range depending on books being skipped). The last Super Millions prize was claimed in the 655k book range. There's an 82k gap between the 11th SM prize, and the end of print, which is another reason why I'm confident the final prize, if it's out there...is somewhere in that range.
I thought the old $20 Monopoly ticket was an interesting and relevant example because:
1- It came out in 2013, not long before SM in 2017
2- It had all of its top prizes claimed
3- Alot of us have been chasing the very end of Super Millions 720k-737k, with emphasis on 730k+
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Quote: Originally posted by zzplayfaster on Jan 23, 2017
Dracos,
How many Top Prizes were there in the old $20 Monopoly game and how many $20 Monopoly tickets were printed?
Also, any news on 2MJ? Has anybody visited any locations?
The $20 Monopoly Millionaire had: 6 top prizes of $3M, 8 secondary prizes of $500k. There were 20.16m tickets printed (same number as Super Millions) which equals 672k books
No updates from me. I'm on break again from scratchoffs. I see some people posting big winners on the new Gold Rush on twitter, but I'm not fooled. I've seen a nasty streak of duds on the new game that makes me want to take another break.