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Posted: March 25, 2013, 4:06 pm - IP Logged

It has absolutely nothing to do with hackers or computers. It's a well know fact to a few seasoned lottery players that every state has a relatively strong number of people who play consecutives. What the consecutive players are ignorant about is that they think only a few people play in that fashion.

Here's your hack theory in a ball state, Florida, It happens everywhere, not just computers. Those people think they have outwitted everyone else. If ONLY they educated themselves before spending all that money every week. AND, they have to hope they get the CORRECT consecutives to win. Green laugh

 

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03/21/201114 - 15 - 16 - 17 - 18     47$4,581.74
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    Posted: March 25, 2013, 5:03 pm - IP Logged

    onlymoney is right there is no hacking going on here.  For whatever reason a lot of lottery players like playing consecutives for each draw.  The most popular consecutive is 01-02-03-04-05.  If you played that combo and won it will be guaranteed that you will be sharing the jackpot with a number of other players.  Playing consecutive numbers in a lotto game is probably the equivalent of playing triplets in the pick 3 game.  The difference being for lotto game the prize is parimutual and you will be disappointed with your prize payout.

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      Posted: March 25, 2013, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

      You've gotta love the LP.

      How many posters are from California?

      How many have spent huge amounts of time analyzing the California Fantasy 5?

      How many have even bet $1 on the game?

      Yet, out of state experts abound. *L*

      Integrity is spot on with what he saying. Play it off if you want, but then agian, has any but a few really done thier analytical homework on the game.

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        Posted: March 25, 2013, 11:12 pm - IP Logged

        You've gotta love the LP.

        How many posters are from California?

        How many have spent huge amounts of time analyzing the California Fantasy 5?

        How many have even bet $1 on the game?

        Yet, out of state experts abound. *L*

        Integrity is spot on with what he saying. Play it off if you want, but then agian, has any but a few really done thier analytical homework on the game.

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          Posted: March 25, 2013, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

          You've gotta love the LP.

          How many posters are from California?

          How many have spent huge amounts of time analyzing the California Fantasy 5?

          How many have even bet $1 on the game?

          Yet, out of state experts abound. *L*

          Integrity is spot on with what he saying. Play it off if you want, but then agian, has any but a few really done thier analytical homework on the game.

          Whatever, I assume you are from California, I have spent a bunch of time analyzing California Fantasy 5 and have spent a lot of money playing California Fantasy 5 with timeshare(s) in both South Lake Tahoe and Squaw Valley for the past 10 years.

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            Posted: March 26, 2013, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

            You've gotta love the LP.

            How many posters are from California?

            How many have spent huge amounts of time analyzing the California Fantasy 5?

            How many have even bet $1 on the game?

            Yet, out of state experts abound. *L*

            Integrity is spot on with what he saying. Play it off if you want, but then agian, has any but a few really done thier analytical homework on the game.

            "Yet, out of state experts abound."

            You don't have to be a California Fantasy 5 expert to show where five consecutive numbers were drawn in other states with similar games. Nor do you have to be an expert to see that California pays off pari-mutually meaning the number of winning tickets has no effect on their bottom line.

            "Play it off if you want, but then agian, has any but a few really done thier analytical homework on the game."

            I can't find one state lottery that publishes the most frequently played combinations in any given drawing so there is no expert analytical homework that could be done. And I can't even find the actual number of self picks or quick picks of the 29 winners so I can only assume the majority of the winners were self picks. Is there an exclusive website where only California lottery players have access so they can expertly analysis the results?

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              Posted: March 26, 2013, 2:07 pm - IP Logged

              Odd number combinations happen with every lottery game.  The problem in your state is that there is no way for a person to watch the drawing, because it happens inside a computer.  With a traditional ball drawing, when a strange combination comes up you can at least be satisfied by watching the drawing that it was legitimate.

              If you write to the lottery, I'd recommend complaining about the lack of real ball drawings, and that even if they explain that strange combinations happen every so often, that they have no way to prove it because it is impossible to physically witness the method by which a computer generates random numbers.

              An auditor can only witness that a computer program executed -- they have no way to watch it actually take place, and really they have no idea if it was hacked around.  (There are ways to get around computer code validation if a hacker is determined enough.)

              "The problem in your state is that there is no way for a person to watch the drawing, because it happens inside a computer."

              Because California pays off pari-mutually, there is even more of a reason to protect their integrity by having live ball drawings.

              I doubt they did it, but it's possible the programmer watched "Bruce Almighty" and programed the computer to choose from the most frequently played combinations. A much larger than average amount of winners only effects how much each winning ticket pays and has no effect on lottery profits because all the California Fantasy 5 payoffs with the exception of a free ticket are paid pari-mutually. 

              A few months ago, the Kentucky Pick-3 paid out 97% of their ticket sales because a large number of frequently played combos were live ball drawn. The game has fixed playoffs, but had they paid pari-mutually, each winning ticket would pay much less and the monthly percent of sales to payoffs would remain the same.

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                Posted: March 26, 2013, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

                It's all legit, but I just wouldn't like to play a game that is ran by a computer. I just wouldn't like it.

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                  Posted: March 27, 2013, 12:35 am - IP Logged

                  Thanks Onlymoney.  I am glad to read that there is a plausible reason why there were so many winning tickets.  That explains why there was no public outcry over the results.  You have restored my faith in the CA Lottery.