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• redhot7

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by Jon D on Apr 14, 2013

  The store had a date scribbled on the paper of a just few days ago.

  If we assume the pack numbers are printed sequentially, which I believe they are, then this pack 194264 would be in batch #16 with pack numbers 190000-195999.(100 tickets per pack, and 6000 packs per batch) You could avoid this range if you believed in this stuff, but the advantage you get is minimal at best.

  Hmm, interesting. The ticket I bought 4 months ago had a pack #24x,xxx. The ticket won a few days ago had a pack#194,264.
  
  I wonder why that is. Is it a very slow moving store with not much customers visiting the store?
• Jon D

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by redhot7 on Apr 14, 2013

  Hmm, interesting. The ticket I bought 4 months ago had a pack #24x,xxx. The ticket won a few days ago had a pack#194,264.
  
  I wonder why that is. Is it a very slow moving store with not much customers visiting the store?

  In general, the pack numbers start low and then increase through the life of the game. But due to various distribution issues in different parts of the state, sometimes you see older pack numbers. It all depends on what the distributor/vendor gives the store.

  This may be a good thing if there are a lot of top prizes outstanding. Or if there are not, then it could be a bad thing, they are just recycling old stock without top prizes from other regions of the state or from closed stores, etc.

  Right now, 10X the Money is about 75% sold through. That equates to a pack number of 293578.(batch #33 of 43) Lower than that are older stock, higher than that are newer stock. The game has about 3-4 top prizes overdue, so those may be in the lower numbered packs. But higher packs may contain a top prize or two as well.

  Batch Pack-lo Pack-hi
  1 100000 105999
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  16 190000 195999
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  33 292000 297999
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  43 352000 357999

  Disclaimer: the above is all conjecture and purely speculative.
• ct-red

  

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  On a few ocassions the store has had open sequential books. Bought the last four $2 tickets (096-099) from the book lost on all of them. Bought the first two tickets (001&002) of the next book and won $10 on the first and $3 on the second. The tickets are made to go in sequential order, the idea of a book is just a group of tickets printed in order. I think only Texas has the min payout per book. I've always tried to get a really low number book on the day that games come out but they never come to my area.

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• four4me

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by th19940305 on Apr 14, 2013

  Exactly if people don't claim the prizes they make more money

  when people fail to claim the prizes the money is rolled into promotional games in most states.

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• Jon D

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by ct-red on Apr 17, 2013

  On a few ocassions the store has had open sequential books. Bought the last four $2 tickets (096-099) from the book lost on all of them. Bought the first two tickets (001&002) of the next book and won $10 on the first and $3 on the second. The tickets are made to go in sequential order, the idea of a book is just a group of tickets printed in order. I think only Texas has the min payout per book. I've always tried to get a really low number book on the day that games come out but they never come to my area.

  I think only Texas has the min payout per book.

  I disagree.

  Texas is just a lot more forthcoming with disclosure about it's scratch games. They are the only one I've seen actually publishing a minimum pack value on their website.

  But that doesn't mean that other states don't also have a minimum pack value just because they don't publish it. There are lots of states that have varying degrees of disclosure about prize tier updates, etc.

  These scratch games are made by just a couple of companies: Scientific Games and GTECH Printing. The same algorithms and pseudorandom schedules are probably in place for all of their state lottery customers.

  Just like ticket number, I don't think you can tell anything about where a top prize is by the pack number. The single top prize could be in any pack within a batch.
• Jon D

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by four4me on Apr 17, 2013

  when people fail to claim the prizes the money is rolled into promotional games in most states.

  In CA, large draw/lotto prizes that are unclaimed can go straight to education funding, not put back in the prize pool for other use.

  Scratch games are different. All the unclaimed tickets of varying size just end up making the game return less than it it should.(say, 69% instead of 71%) They can then use those funds to cover unexpeced prize liability from draw/lotto games, or offer additional promotions like raffles and 2nd chance, or create better scratch games.