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Too Good To Be True P-3 System, What Am I Missing?

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Posted: April 2, 2013, 5:34 pm - IP Logged

Trust me, that's an illusion which I fell for the first time. Below is MMM. Five digits in each position. 5X5X5=125. There are another 7 versions you'd have to consider to guarantee a staright hit, since we don't know which version will hit.

The math doesn't lie. What i didn't consider was the first pairs in each group had to be matched up with the last position (3rd) position to make it complete.

 

 

Florida, Feb. 19 mid-279    eve-716 

 

MMM

 

5 0 2

6 1 3

7 2 4

8 3 5

9 4 6

 

To calculate how much it costs, you multiply the first column to the second column, and then multiply that to the third column.

 

5X5=25

 

25X5=125

 

I'd have to do the above for all 8 versions. 125X8=1000

Florida, Feb. 19 mid-279    eve-716 

 

MMM

 

5 0 2

6 1 3

7 2 4

8 3 5

9 4 6

Why do you still think this column has 15 numbers?

502 is 1 not 3

613=1

724=1

835=1

946=1

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    Another way to look it is that for each position you are making a decision either S or M you can think of that as a coin flip.  Each decision leaves you with 5 numbers at each position.  So if you were correct in all of your decisions you would have 5*5*5 = 125 combos to guarantee a win.  Since their are 8 ways to arrange S and M into 3 positions you would have 125 * 8.

    Winsum at one time had a system where you made these coin flip decisions to reduce the matrix based on binary representation of a pick 3 number. I think you had 6 coin flip decisions to leave you with 16 numbers to play.  Its not easy to correctly predict 6 coin flips.  Your odds are 1 in 64.  You would have to have predictive skills of better than 1 in 32 to make it a profitable play.  So in essense you have to be twice as good as random.

    Jimmy

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      Posted: April 2, 2013, 6:31 pm - IP Logged

      Hello, Jimmy, yes we yes, 125 combinations of 5x5x5, but I need your help in the following
        Combine the 5 draws, but not repeating the position
      Example is in the 1st column digit base this on the second draw your partner can not be the second draw, or just play straight goal is to play in the same position,
      From each of the five draws, when doing 5x5x5, there are always combinations combinations straight, avoid this goal is to reduce the 125 to less combinations when controlling the frequency of jumps within 5 draws, will be a good reduction, not needing to play the 125 possible, this is the goal!!
        then filter these conbinaçoes of at most one digit between 200 sweepstakes, or other limit until a couple begins to repeat

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        Posted: April 2, 2013, 6:38 pm - IP Logged
        Mon, Mar 18, 20138-2-1?Prize Payouts
        Sun, Mar 17, 20130-8-5?Prize Payouts
        Sat, Mar 16, 20131-5-7?Prize Payouts

        To continue with coin flip decisions a good play is making the decision of either low or high for each position.  Low being 0-4 digits and high being 5-9 digits.

        The above draws were from Idaho Pick3 midday draw.

        Sat, Mar 16,2013   157 -> LHH
        Sun, Mar 17, 2013 085->LHH
        Mon Mar 18, 2013 821 ->HLL

        The rule is this if you see 2 consecutive Low by position then you have 75% chance that the next position in next draw will be high.

        The same holds true is if you see two conseutive high by position then you have 75% chance that the next position in next draw will be low.

        So if you wait until all 3 positions have 2 consecutive lows or highs in each position you have the optimum time to jump in and make a bet on the next draw.

        So you can see that the Saturday draw and Sunday draw lined up perfectly where you had two consecutive draws in the same LH range so it was easy to predict the Monday draw being HLL of course that is a $125 bet.  Of course it doesn't always work and $125 is a steep bet to win $500.

        If your trying to defeat Pick 3 with math versus patterns then I think looking for coin flip situitions and applying the 75% rule is a good strategy.  In other words the 75% rule says that only 25% of the time will you see 3 consecutive heads, or 3 consecutive tails.

        Lets say you get 3 consecutive Low's then the odds say you have 87.5 % for the next draw being high in that position. So even if all 3 positions do not line up you might still accurately use this concept to predict 1 position.  Using this with a pair system such as Dr. Miracle might be useful in only predicting 1 position.

        I have accurately used this concept with RL's dmp program to set filter values.  My coin flip for filters is whether the filter value increases of decreases.  If I see a filter go from 0 -> 1 -> 2.  Then for the next draw I range the filter value between 0 and 1 betting on the filter value to decrease after 2 consecutive increases.

        Jimmy

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          Posted: April 2, 2013, 7:08 pm - IP Logged

          Hello, ok ok! Jimmy very good job, thus meeting the more likely
            Output, one can discover patterns to divide a list of any U.S. state lotteries, or other record of pick3, split into groups of 5 sweepstakes, and see the frequency of each position, after dividing the sample = 5 in 5 draws on the last group of 5 draws
            The initial digit of the next lottery draw was in the room, the next one can avoid this
            And so with the 2nd and 3rd column can even see the delayed digit home (the pivot) in 4 5 groups) the pivot can also be the 2nd and can also be the 3rd column, goal is to avoid playing straight

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            Posted: April 2, 2013, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

            Another way to look it is that for each position you are making a decision either S or M you can think of that as a coin flip.  Each decision leaves you with 5 numbers at each position.  So if you were correct in all of your decisions you would have 5*5*5 = 125 combos to guarantee a win.  Since their are 8 ways to arrange S and M into 3 positions you would have 125 * 8.

            Winsum at one time had a system where you made these coin flip decisions to reduce the matrix based on binary representation of a pick 3 number. I think you had 6 coin flip decisions to leave you with 16 numbers to play.  Its not easy to correctly predict 6 coin flips.  Your odds are 1 in 64.  You would have to have predictive skills of better than 1 in 32 to make it a profitable play.  So in essense you have to be twice as good as random.

            Jimmy

            "I think you had 6 coin flip decisions to leave you with 16 numbers to play."

            If the first 3 flips were LHL and the next 3 were OOE, decided "0" is low, the play is 1,3 with 5,7,9 with 0,2,4; 18 straight combos. There are 64 H/L - E/O outcomes, but they have different numbers of plays and deciding "0" as high or low makes a difference. It could be as high as 27 plays, 18, 12, or as low as 8.

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              Posted: April 2, 2013, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

              @onlymoney

              your number came in straight....   :)  035

               

              maybe you are on to something here...

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                Posted: April 2, 2013, 8:58 pm - IP Logged

                So to prove this may work as it stands right now, until someone can show me ehat I'm doing wrong, I'm going to predict tonight's Florida winner using today's midday winner-630.

                 

                 

                630

                 

                 

                 

                SSS

                418-518-618-718-818

                429-529-629-729-829

                430-530-630-730-830

                441-541-641-741-841

                452-552-652-752-852

                 

                 

                SSM

                413-513-613-713-813

                424-524-624-724-824

                435-535-635-735-835

                446-546-646-746-846

                457-557-657-757-857

                 

                 

                 

                SMM

                463-563-663-763-863

                474-574-674-774-874

                485-585-685-785-885

                496-596-696-796-896

                407-507-607-707-807

                 

                 

                MMM

                863-963-063-163-263

                874-974-074-174-274

                885-985-085-185-285

                896-996-096-196-296

                807-907-007-107-207

                 

                 

                MSM

                813-913-013-113-213

                824-924-024-124-224

                835-935-035-135-235

                846-946-046-146-246

                857-957-057-157-257

                 

                 

                SMS

                468-568-668-768-868

                479-579-679-779-879

                480-580-680-780-880

                491-591-691-791-891

                402-502-602-702-802

                 

                 

                MSS

                818-918-018-118-218

                829-929-029-129-229

                830-930-030-130-230

                841-941-041-141-241

                852-952-052-152-252

                 

                 

                MMS

                468-568-668-768-868

                479-579-679-779-879

                480-580-680-780-880

                491-591-691-791-891

                402-502-602-702-802

                April, 2013
                SunMonTueWedThuFriSat
                1 020 5722 630 0353456
                78910111213
                14151617181920
                21222324252627
                282930

                Let it Snow Snowman

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                  Posted: April 2, 2013, 9:00 pm - IP Logged

                  WTG! onlymoney Dance

                  Let it Snow Snowman

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                    Posted: April 2, 2013, 9:48 pm - IP Logged

                    also from the msm group

                    even if it doesn't hit every time it might be worth playing just that group for Flor

                    I did try PA just one draw and got box hits for next draw, I'll try some more  and see if I can get some straights and maybe a pattern


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                      Posted: April 2, 2013, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

                      @onlymoney

                      your number came in straight....   :)  035

                       

                      maybe you are on to something here...

                      Wow, I guess it lined up again the right way, Awesome, I wish i played for real.

                       

                      MSM

                       

                      813-913-013-113-213

                      824-924-024-124-224

                      835-935-035-135-235

                      846-946-046-146-246

                      857-957-057-157-257


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                        WTG! onlymoney Dance

                        Thanks girlie !

                        Party

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                          Posted: April 2, 2013, 10:31 pm - IP Logged
                          Mon, Mar 18, 20138-2-1?Prize Payouts
                          Sun, Mar 17, 20130-8-5?Prize Payouts
                          Sat, Mar 16, 20131-5-7?Prize Payouts

                          To continue with coin flip decisions a good play is making the decision of either low or high for each position.  Low being 0-4 digits and high being 5-9 digits.

                          The above draws were from Idaho Pick3 midday draw.

                          Sat, Mar 16,2013   157 -> LHH
                          Sun, Mar 17, 2013 085->LHH
                          Mon Mar 18, 2013 821 ->HLL

                          The rule is this if you see 2 consecutive Low by position then you have 75% chance that the next position in next draw will be high.

                          The same holds true is if you see two conseutive high by position then you have 75% chance that the next position in next draw will be low.

                          So if you wait until all 3 positions have 2 consecutive lows or highs in each position you have the optimum time to jump in and make a bet on the next draw.

                          So you can see that the Saturday draw and Sunday draw lined up perfectly where you had two consecutive draws in the same LH range so it was easy to predict the Monday draw being HLL of course that is a $125 bet.  Of course it doesn't always work and $125 is a steep bet to win $500.

                          If your trying to defeat Pick 3 with math versus patterns then I think looking for coin flip situitions and applying the 75% rule is a good strategy.  In other words the 75% rule says that only 25% of the time will you see 3 consecutive heads, or 3 consecutive tails.

                          Lets say you get 3 consecutive Low's then the odds say you have 87.5 % for the next draw being high in that position. So even if all 3 positions do not line up you might still accurately use this concept to predict 1 position.  Using this with a pair system such as Dr. Miracle might be useful in only predicting 1 position.

                          I have accurately used this concept with RL's dmp program to set filter values.  My coin flip for filters is whether the filter value increases of decreases.  If I see a filter go from 0 -> 1 -> 2.  Then for the next draw I range the filter value between 0 and 1 betting on the filter value to decrease after 2 consecutive increases.

                          Jimmy

                          I had never heard of the 75% theory. You can learn something new every day on LP. Thanks for sharing the info.  Thumbs Up

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                          Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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                            S&M system can be downloaded here:

                            https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb5egmmc9r0j7g9/S%20and%20M.xlsx

                            Be kind, because everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

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                              Posted: April 3, 2013, 12:12 am - IP Logged

                              Your getting fast at knocking these out.

                              Thanks Ranman

                               

                              Carlig

                                 
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