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Too Good To Be True P-3 System, What Am I Missing?

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Posted: April 15, 2013, 11:51 pm - IP Logged

Thanks, ranman 17 pick 4 is hard to hit.

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    Thanks, ranman 17 pick 4 is hard to hit.

    never was my cup of tea, heck i can't even hit the P3 even if someone gave me 2 numbers Green laugh

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      Posted: April 16, 2013, 12:13 am - IP Logged

      so is the number supposed to be in the yellow or above it or it can be anywhere?

      Green means go, and yellow means speed up. Green laugh

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        Posted: April 16, 2013, 12:19 am - IP Logged

        Green means go, and yellow means speed up. Green laugh

        Wow everyday is New Years to you Huh? 

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          Posted: April 16, 2013, 12:33 am - IP Logged

          Wow everyday is New Years to you Huh? 

          Not really. Earlier it was Tax day, and I was just celebrating. ROFL

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            Posted: April 16, 2013, 12:53 am - IP Logged

            The amount of numbers hasn't changed and I really didn't understand your earlier posts claiming that your system produced 1000 numbers.  I guess I'm not that bright.

            Lol you and me both.  I kept saying 200 but he kept saying 1000.


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              Posted: April 16, 2013, 1:07 am - IP Logged

              Lol you and me both.  I kept saying 200 but he kept saying 1000.

              Same number with two above and two down makes it five numbers.

              Mirror number with two above and two below makes it five numbers also. Basically i covered all numbers.

               

              Same number below. let's say the number 3.

              1

              2

              3

              4

              5

               

               

              Mirrored number of 3 below. The number 8.

              6

              7

              8

              9

              0

              Total numbers covered, 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 in each psoition no matter what number you start off with. I chose 3 as an example. You will cover all numbers no matter what number you choose.

               

              I'll choose another random example, 7

               

              Same number below,

              5

              6

              7

              8

              9

               

               

              Mirror of 7 is 2

              0

              1

              2

              3

              4

              Total numbers covered, 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9


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                Posted: April 16, 2013, 1:32 am - IP Logged

                There's something I must be overlooking here. Maybe someone can tell me what it is. It gaurantees a straight hit every single time costing only 200 bucks.

                Every winning number is only 2 above and 2 below the next winning number, either in it's original form, or it's mirror, or a combination thereof. To combine all possible ways this can happen, I assigned a name to each of the two ways, S=Same, M=Mirror.

                "Same" means the number doesn't change, and "Mirror", well, that needs no explanation.

                Below is a LIST of all possible ways to mix S and M.

                SSS-SSM-SMM-MMM-MSM-SMS-MSS-MMS= Total, eight possible configurations. EVERY winning combination falls under one of those variables. To ensure a straight hit, one must play ALL of them at a cost of 200 bucks. But this seems to good to be true, so this is where you people come in. I tried looking at every angle, but i still don't feel I missed anything.

                 

                Example Florida,

                March 1 mid-204      eve-810

                The winner 810 came from MSM. Why? From the 2 in 204 to 8, you have to MIRROR the 2, and go up and down by two. The first number is a M.

                2=7 (mirror) Up and down by two=5-6-7-8-9

                 

                5               5               5               5               5

                6               6               6               6               6

                7               7               7               7               7

                8               8               8               8               8

                9               9               9               9               9

                 

                Now, we've completed the first position number. Now we go to the second number in 204 which is 0. From 0 to 1, we stay with what we have. That's the S, in MSM. Now we go up and down by two for the 0 also. 8-9-0-1-2

                0=0 (S)(SAME)

                 

                58               59               50               51               52

                 

                68               69               60               61               62

                 

                78               79               70               71               72

                 

                88               89               80               81               82

                 

                98               99               90               91               92

                 

                 

                 

                Ok, now we do the last position number. From 4 to 0 we have to MIRROR to 9 and go up and down by two. 7-8-9-0-1

                4=9 (M)

                 

                 

                 

                587               598               509               510               521 

                 

                687               698               609               610               621 

                 

                787               798               709               710               721 

                 

                887              898               809               810             821 

                 

                987               998               909               910               921

                 

                 

                There, we have a straight winner in Blue. Now of course we knew ahead of time which of the variables to use, but since we won't know ahead of time, we have to play ALL 8 versions of them. Each version costs 25 bucks, X 8 versions =$200.00

                I tried this three times in three different dates and it worked everytime. It seems too good to be true, so I know I'm MUST be doing something wrong.

                A program would sure be nice.

                Below Is where I went wrong.

                 

                Now, we've completed the first position number. Now we go to the second number in 204 which is 0. From 0 to 1, we stay with what we have. That's the S, in MSM. Now we go up and down by two for the 0 also. 8-9-0-1-2

                 

                0=0 (S)(SAME)

                 

                 

                58               59               50               51               52 

                 

                68               69               60               61               62 

                 

                78               79               70               71               72 

                 

                88               89               80               81               82 

                 

                98               99               90               91               92

                 

                 

                Ok, now we do the last position number. From 4 to 0 we have to MIRROR to 9 and go up and down by two. 7-8-9-0-1

                 

                4=9 (M)

                 

                 

                The third colum was supposed to be 7-8-9-0-1, but my mistake was NOT applying each of those numbers to each of the pairs above. In reality, the pair 58 should've had he following combos, 587-588-589-580-581, but you can clearly see that the only combo I made out of the pair 58 was 587 and stopped. Look below,

                 

                587               598               509               510               521   

                 

                687               698               609               610               621   

                 

                787               798               709               710               721   

                 

                887              898               809               810              821   

                 

                987               998               909               910               921

                 

                 

                 

                 

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                  Posted: April 16, 2013, 8:05 am - IP Logged

                  so is the number supposed to be in the yellow or above it or it can be anywhere?

                  The number can be anywhere.  The yellow represents the SSSS without any addition or subtraction.  The green represents a hit for Florida which happens to be directly above the SSSS.

                  Be kind, because everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

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                    Posted: April 16, 2013, 8:39 am - IP Logged

                    I think I understand.  You are saying that in the original P3 version you would have to play each resulting set in every permutation to get a guarteed str8 hit and that would give you 1000 numbers to play.  Is that correct?

                    Be kind, because everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

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                      I think I understand.  You are saying that in the original P3 version you would have to play each resulting set in every permutation to get a guarteed str8 hit and that would give you 1000 numbers to play.  Is that correct?

                      Yes sir, and that's why I said from the beginning that it's too good to be true.

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                        Posted: April 16, 2013, 6:26 pm - IP Logged

                        Florida:

                        4/15 Eve = 0157

                        4/16 Mid = 6807

                         

                              Enter # 0157

                        SMSS

                        7

                        3

                        2

                        4

                         

                        8

                        3

                        2

                        4

                         

                        9

                        3

                        2

                        4

                         

                        0

                        3

                        2

                        4

                         

                        1

                        3

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                        4

                         

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                        3

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                        4

                         

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                        3

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                        4

                        0157

                        7

                        4

                        3

                        5

                         

                        8

                        4

                        3

                        5

                         

                        9

                        4

                        3

                        5

                         

                        0

                        4

                        3

                        5

                         

                        1

                        4

                        3

                        5

                         

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                        4

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                        5

                         

                        3

                        4

                        3

                        5

                         

                        7

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                        4

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                        8

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                        4

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                        9

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                        4

                        6

                         

                        0

                        5

                        4

                        6

                         

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                        5

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                        9

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                        0

                        That's two draws in a row in Florida!

                        Be kind, because everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

                        An Unruly Evil

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                          Posted: April 16, 2013, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

                          In NY using 4/15 Midday 2400 you would have hit the Eve draw 3763 and the midday for 4/16 - 6357 with SSMS

                          If you were to use last nights number 3763 you would have hit the midday with SSSS

                          Be kind, because everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

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                            Posted: April 16, 2013, 6:51 pm - IP Logged

                            I dont play pick 4 much, so gotta ask, how are you getting it down from 800 combos on the sheet to a playable amount ?

                            Not being sarcastic at all. Only thing I came up with was to track which sections the hits were coming from and see it that helped ..

                            800 to get 5000 is one thing, but 800 to get a box hit, doesnt work .

                             

                            Carlig

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                              I dont play pick 4 much, so gotta ask, how are you getting it down from 800 combos on the sheet to a playable amount ?

                              Not being sarcastic at all. Only thing I came up with was to track which sections the hits were coming from and see it that helped ..

                              800 to get 5000 is one thing, but 800 to get a box hit, doesnt work .

                               

                              Carlig

                              I don't have a method just an observation.  It seems to me that you can play the center column and the column immediately to the left and right of the center column for each section and have decent hit probability.  However, you would still need to leave off 3 sections in order to be profitible and even then the risk to reward ratio is not great.

                              Be kind, because everyone you meet is fighting a great battle.

                              An Unruly Evil

                                 
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