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merdis salley

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Apr 15, 2013, 11:51 pm

Thanks, ranman 17 pick 4 is hard to hit.
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Apr 16, 2013, 12:04 am

Quote: Originally posted by merdis salley on Apr 15, 2013
Thanks, ranman 17 pick 4 is hard to hit.

never was my cup of tea, heck i can't even hit the P3 even if someone gave me 2 numbers
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Apr 16, 2013, 12:13 am

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Apr 15, 2013
so is the number supposed to be in the yellow or above it or it can be anywhere?

Green means go, and yellow means speed up.
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Apr 16, 2013, 12:19 am

Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Apr 16, 2013
Green means go, and yellow means speed up.

Wow everyday is New Years to you Huh?
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Apr 16, 2013, 12:33 am

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Apr 16, 2013
Wow everyday is New Years to you Huh?

Not really. Earlier it was Tax day, and I was just celebrating.
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Apr 16, 2013, 12:53 am

Quote: Originally posted by ranman17 on Apr 15, 2013
The amount of numbers hasn't changed and I really didn't understand your earlier posts claiming that your system produced 1000 numbers. I guess I'm not that bright.

Lol you and me both. I kept saying 200 but he kept saying 1000.
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Apr 16, 2013, 1:07 am

Quote: Originally posted by xaab on Apr 16, 2013
Lol you and me both. I kept saying 200 but he kept saying 1000.

Same number with two above and two down makes it five numbers.

Mirror number with two above and two below makes it five numbers also. Basically i covered all numbers.

Same number below. let's say the number 3.

1

2

3

4

5

Mirrored number of 3 below. The number 8.

6

7

8

9

0

Total numbers covered, 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9 in each psoition no matter what number you start off with. I chose 3 as an example. You will cover all numbers no matter what number you choose.

I'll choose another random example, 7

Same number below,

5

6

7

8

9

Mirror of 7 is 2

0

1

2

3

4

Total numbers covered, 0-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9
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Apr 16, 2013, 1:32 am

Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Apr 2, 2013
There's something I must be overlooking here. Maybe someone can tell me what it is. It gaurantees a straight hit every single time costing only 200 bucks.

Every winning number is only 2 above and 2 below the next winning number, either in it's original form, or it's mirror, or a combination thereof. To combine all possible ways this can happen, I assigned a name to each of the two ways, S=Same, M=Mirror.

"Same" means the number doesn't change, and "Mirror", well, that needs no explanation.

Below is a LIST of all possible ways to mix S and M.

SSS-SSM-SMM-MMM-MSM-SMS-MSS-MMS= Total, eight possible configurations. EVERY winning combination falls under one of those variables. To ensure a straight hit, one must play ALL of them at a cost of 200 bucks. But this seems to good to be true, so this is where you people come in. I tried looking at every angle, but i still don't feel I missed anything.

Example Florida,

March 1 mid-204 eve-810

The winner 810 came from MSM. Why? From the 2 in 204 to 8, you have to MIRROR the 2, and go up and down by two. The first number is a M.

2=7 (mirror) Up and down by two=5-6-7-8-9

5 5 5 5 5

6 6 6 6 6

7 7 7 7 7

8 8 8 8 8

9 9 9 9 9

Now, we've completed the first position number. Now we go to the second number in 204 which is 0. From 0 to 1, we stay with what we have. That's the S, in MSM. Now we go up and down by two for the 0 also. 8-9-0-1-2

0=0 (S)(SAME)

58 59 50 51 52

68 69 60 61 62

78 79 70 71 72

88 89 80 81 82

98 99 90 91 92

Ok, now we do the last position number. From 4 to 0 we have to MIRROR to 9 and go up and down by two. 7-8-9-0-1

4=9 (M)

587 598 509 510 521

687 698 609 610 621

787 798 709 710 721

887 898 809 810   821

987 998 909 910 921

There, we have a straight winner in Blue. Now of course we knew ahead of time which of the variables to use, but since we won't know ahead of time, we have to play ALL 8 versions of them. Each version costs 25 bucks, X 8 versions =$200.00

I tried this three times in three different dates and it worked everytime. It seems too good to be true, so I know I'm MUST be doing something wrong.

A program would sure be nice.

Below Is where I went wrong.

Now, we've completed the first position number. Now we go to the second number in 204 which is 0. From 0 to 1, we stay with what we have. That's the S, in MSM. Now we go up and down by two for the 0 also. 8-9-0-1-2

0=0 (S)(SAME)

58 59 50 51 52

68 69 60 61 62

78 79 70 71 72

88 89 80 81 82

98 99 90 91 92

Ok, now we do the last position number. From 4 to 0 we have to MIRROR to 9 and go up and down by two. 7-8-9-0-1

4=9 (M)

The third colum was supposed to be 7-8-9-0-1, but my mistake was NOT applying each of those numbers to each of the pairs above. In reality, the pair 58 should've had he following combos, 587-588-589-580-581, but you can clearly see that the only combo I made out of the pair 58 was 587 and stopped. Look below,

587    598 509 510 521

687 698 609 610 621

787 798 709 710 721

887 898 809 810   821

987 998 909 910 921
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Apr 16, 2013, 8:05 am

Quote: Originally posted by helpmewin on Apr 15, 2013
so is the number supposed to be in the yellow or above it or it can be anywhere?

The number can be anywhere. The yellow represents the SSSS without any addition or subtraction. The green represents a hit for Florida which happens to be directly above the SSSS.

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Apr 16, 2013, 8:39 am

I think I understand. You are saying that in the original P3 version you would have to play each resulting set in every permutation to get a guarteed str8 hit and that would give you 1000 numbers to play. Is that correct?

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Apr 16, 2013, 12:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by ranman17 on Apr 16, 2013
I think I understand. You are saying that in the original P3 version you would have to play each resulting set in every permutation to get a guarteed str8 hit and that would give you 1000 numbers to play. Is that correct?

Yes sir, and that's why I said from the beginning that it's too good to be true.

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Apr 16, 2013, 6:26 pm

Florida:

4/15 Eve = 0157

4/16 Mid = 6807

Enter # 0157

SMSS	7	3	2	4	8	3	2	4	9	3	2	4	3	2	4	1	3	2	4	2	3	2	4	3	3	2	4
0157	7	4	3	5	8	4	3	5	9	4	3	5	4	3	5	1	4	3	5	2	4	3	5	3	4	3	5
	7	5	4	6	8	5	4	6	9	5	4	6	5	4	6	1	5	4	6	2	5	4	6	3	5	4	6
	7	6	5	7	8	6	5	7	9	6	5	7	6	5	7	1	6	5	7	2	6	5	7	3	6	5	7
	7	7	6	8	8	7	6	8	9	7	6	8	7	6	8	1	7	6	8	2	7	6	8	3	7	6	8
	7	8	7	9	8	8	7	9	9	8	7	9	8	7	9	1	8	7	9	2	8	7	9	3	8	7	9
	7	9	8	0	8	9	8	0	9	9	8	0	9	8	0	1	9	8	0	2	9	8	0	3	9	8	0

That's two draws in a row in Florida!

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Apr 16, 2013, 6:41 pm

In NY using 4/15 Midday 2400 you would have hit the Eve draw 3763 and the midday for 4/16 - 6357 with SSMS

If you were to use last nights number 3763 you would have hit the midday with SSSS

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Apr 16, 2013, 6:51 pm

I dont play pick 4 much, so gotta ask, how are you getting it down from 800 combos on the sheet to a playable amount ?

Not being sarcastic at all. Only thing I came up with was to track which sections the hits were coming from and see it that helped ..

800 to get 5000 is one thing, but 800 to get a box hit, doesnt work .

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Apr 16, 2013, 6:58 pm

Quote: Originally posted by CarliG on Apr 16, 2013
I dont play pick 4 much, so gotta ask, how are you getting it down from 800 combos on the sheet to a playable amount ?

Not being sarcastic at all. Only thing I came up with was to track which sections the hits were coming from and see it that helped ..

800 to get 5000 is one thing, but 800 to get a box hit, doesnt work .

Carlig

I don't have a method just an observation. It seems to me that you can play the center column and the column immediately to the left and right of the center column for each section and have decent hit probability. However, you would still need to leave off 3 sections in order to be profitible and even then the risk to reward ratio is not great.

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