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if you joined a pool, did you vet the other players for honesty before jumping in feet first?

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Posted: April 5, 2013, 9:54 pm - IP Logged

Just wondering, based on some recent horror stories.
Hairstylists are told by fellow pool player  " l won the jackpot last night with a ticket l bought seperately - but you guys are not part of my winning , sorry"   kinda thing.
How would you gauge honesty with this bunch since you the newbie?


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    Posted: April 5, 2013, 10:14 pm - IP Logged

    Just wondering, based on some recent horror stories.
    Hairstylists are told by fellow pool player  " l won the jackpot last night with a ticket l bought seperately - but you guys are not part of my winning , sorry"   kinda thing.
    How would you gauge honesty with this bunch since you the newbie?

    Simple, you tell one or a few of your coworkers ahead of time who are in the pool, that you will be purchasing your own personal tickets that day, and you will gladly show them to anyone who wants to see. Problem solved. Big Grin

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      1. well if i was in charge of the pool i think i would always buy my tickets on a different day.

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      2. let someone else take care of getting the pool tickets that way your personal tickets has nothing to do with that pool.

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        Posted: April 6, 2013, 4:18 am - IP Logged

        any work pool i have been in has always  handed out photo copies of the  tickets purchased.

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          1. well if i was in charge of the pool i think i would always buy my tickets on a different day.

          or

          2. let someone else take care of getting the pool tickets that way your personal tickets has nothing to do with that pool.

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          Point 2 is good but anytime your in charge of buying the tickets you can always be sued if you win the jackpot claiming that your ticket was not on in the pool itself..They can always say you may have held back a ticket and not put it in the pool...Judge would probaly err on the side of caution and make you split it with them...

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            Posted: April 6, 2013, 7:39 am - IP Logged

            Just wondering, based on some recent horror stories.
            Hairstylists are told by fellow pool player  " l won the jackpot last night with a ticket l bought seperately - but you guys are not part of my winning , sorry"   kinda thing.
            How would you gauge honesty with this bunch since you the newbie?

            I take a picture of the tickets with my mobile device and send it out in a text to everyone in the pool.  I then put the tickets in an envelope marking it with a date, time and location the tickets were purchased and then I seal it.  This is done obviously prior to the drawing.  I purchase my personal tickets seperatly.

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              Posted: April 6, 2013, 8:05 am - IP Logged

              Just wondering, based on some recent horror stories.
              Hairstylists are told by fellow pool player  " l won the jackpot last night with a ticket l bought seperately - but you guys are not part of my winning , sorry"   kinda thing.
              How would you gauge honesty with this bunch since you the newbie?

              Good Morning Everyone!

              Happy Saturday!  I am new to LP and this is only my second post to LP, however I thought I would share how our office handles our lottery pool. We have one person to collect the money and either they go get the tickets or someone else from the office gets the ticket. When they come back they make a copy of all the tickets and the names who provided the money and how much and it is distributed to all the people who play.  This way if you bought a separate ticket for the lottery and your ticket wins they can see if the number was in the lottery pool or if it was actually there own ticket.

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                I take a picture of the tickets with my mobile device and send it out in a text to everyone in the pool.  I then put the tickets in an envelope marking it with a date, time and location the tickets were purchased and then I seal it.  This is done obviously prior to the drawing.  I purchase my personal tickets seperatly.

                I run a pool at work.  Generally , I dont buy any personal tickets, but there have been a few times when I did.

                The few times that I did buy my own, it was for a state run raffle. It had very low odds to win 1 Million dollars. (275,000:1) and not everyone in the pool chose to partcipate because the tickets cost 10 dollars each. So I collected 10 bucks from just those that wanted in.

                I bought the pools tickets and my own at the same place and time as I bought the pool's.  I then took ALL of the tickets I purchased back to work, put them on my desk, and had the pool members chose one ticket each. (they were to keep it until the drawing, not me) The remaining tickets on my desk were the ones I bought/took for myself.

                I then asked each person to sign their name on the back of ticket they were holding. I then photocopied them all, (both sides of the tickets) and gave each pool member a photocopy of the tickets the other pool members were holding.  That way everyone could see who was holding which ticket. I also gave them each a copy of just the one ticket I signed that was to be included in the pool.  (I know this sounds like a lot of work, but there was just eight of us in the pool.)

                To answer the question the OP posed, yeah, while I didnt "vett" those guys, I've known them for a very long time and I trust them.  They all joked about runnning off to exoctic destinations with "their" million bucks. (as did I)  That's exactly how I knew I could trust them.  I realize this is NOT a foolproof method to keep from getting taken by someone that's less than honest. In fact, if you do this, and someone does decide to keep all the money, you'll probably have one helluva time getting your share.   I didnt document anything and have everyone sign it etc, so this is "loosey goosey" at best.  It all comes down to trusting those other guys, and I did.  It didnt matter anyway, we didnt win the million bucks!

                About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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                  Posted: April 6, 2013, 8:44 am - IP Logged

                  It's best to have rules and document everything. Then make sure you don't buy your ticket on the same day you buy the group ticket. Also don't buy your personal ticket from the same store .

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                    I run a pool at work.  Generally , I dont buy any personal tickets, but there have been a few times when I did.

                    The few times that I did buy my own, it was for a state run raffle. It had very low odds to win 1 Million dollars. (275,000:1) and not everyone in the pool chose to partcipate because the tickets cost 10 dollars each. So I collected 10 bucks from just those that wanted in.

                    I bought the pools tickets and my own at the same place and time as I bought the pool's.  I then took ALL of the tickets I purchased back to work, put them on my desk, and had the pool members chose one ticket each. (they were to keep it until the drawing, not me) The remaining tickets on my desk were the ones I bought/took for myself.

                    I then asked each person to sign their name on the back of ticket they were holding. I then photocopied them all, (both sides of the tickets) and gave each pool member a photocopy of the tickets the other pool members were holding.  That way everyone could see who was holding which ticket. I also gave them each a copy of just the one ticket I signed that was to be included in the pool.  (I know this sounds like a lot of work, but there was just eight of us in the pool.)

                    To answer the question the OP posed, yeah, while I didnt "vett" those guys, I've known them for a very long time and I trust them.  They all joked about runnning off to exoctic destinations with "their" million bucks. (as did I)  That's exactly how I knew I could trust them.  I realize this is NOT a foolproof method to keep from getting taken by someone that's less than honest. In fact, if you do this, and someone does decide to keep all the money, you'll probably have one helluva time getting your share.   I didnt document anything and have everyone sign it etc, so this is "loosey goosey" at best.  It all comes down to trusting those other guys, and I did.  It didnt matter anyway, we didnt win the million bucks!

                    PS:  One guy in the pool asked me "Why are you doing all of this?  We trust you."  (In the regular pool, I just photocopy the front of all the tickets and hand them out because I keep all tickets in my possession.) 

                    I told him it was because the group was aware of the fact that I had bought my own personal tickets, and that they could be sure if I won on one of those, that I had not pulled a "switcharoo" by switching my group ticket with one of my personal tickets. (It was physically impossible for me to switch the tickets they each held.)

                    He laughed and said, "Yeah! It protects YOU from US!"  I said "Exactly."

                    About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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                      Posted: April 6, 2013, 12:02 pm - IP Logged

                      Good Morning Everyone!

                      Happy Saturday!  I am new to LP and this is only my second post to LP, however I thought I would share how our office handles our lottery pool. We have one person to collect the money and either they go get the tickets or someone else from the office gets the ticket. When they come back they make a copy of all the tickets and the names who provided the money and how much and it is distributed to all the people who play.  This way if you bought a separate ticket for the lottery and your ticket wins they can see if the number was in the lottery pool or if it was actually there own ticket.

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                              Posted: April 6, 2013, 12:58 pm - IP Logged

                              If I were to join/run a pool I would be fine because tickets I buy for myself would be self picks. The only strategy in being in a pool is to buy a large number of quick picks in hopes of a long shot win. Members couldn't possibly sue as the written agreement would clearly articulate that quick picks are bought for every drawing.

                               

                              If I can recall though, in every instance where I read a pool was suing its leader, tickets were not copied, scanned and e-mailed prior to the drawing. So I too would assume some 'hanky panky' was going on in the background.

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