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How many play numbers to win at Pick 3 ?

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Stone Mountain*Georgia
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 Posted: June 22, 2013, 11:19 am - IP Logged

Win D

How can you say, "This proves no one can do any better."   All this proves is that the game functions

as designed.  The outcome of your test faired exactly as one would expect given the number of games

played, odds, etc....  Using static lines in this manner should not produce any differently then randomly

selecting new lines for each game.

What you should have said is "That unless a system or method shows a significant number of hits greater

than the results acheived by this test then your system is mearly functioning at or near the levels of chance."

I for one am not surprised by the results of this test.  IMHO it's true value would be to provide a benchmark

for systems or methods testing, not as proof that "no one can do better than the odds."

RL

You are right on the moneyRl-Randomlogic !

What you should have said is "That unless a system or method shows a significant number of hits greater

than the results acheived by this test then your system is mearly functioning at or near the levels of chance."

Now, that was pretty.

The difference is :   you are eloquent and very mellifluous ........and I am....  "not so much good .....at it being that way".  LOL

Seriously...that was well put and exactly what I wanted to say.  Thank You for your help.

It was ..and still is a challenge to any player here.  Anyone that believes he can beat the average expected hit rate

So....... anyone ?  Anyone?   Step on up and ......show your work cause we would all love to see one of us actually do it.

Anyone at any time can beat the odds of the game short term.....but we sure would like to see it ....."Long term."

Then it really is a system.......not just luck.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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You are right on the moneyRl-Randomlogic !

What you should have said is "That unless a system or method shows a significant number of hits greater

than the results acheived by this test then your system is mearly functioning at or near the levels of chance."

Now, that was pretty.

The difference is :   you are eloquent and very mellifluous ........and I am....  "not so much good .....at it being that way".  LOL

Seriously...that was well put and exactly what I wanted to say.  Thank You for your help.

It was ..and still is a challenge to any player here.  Anyone that believes he can beat the average expected hit rate

So....... anyone ?  Anyone?   Step on up and ......show your work cause we would all love to see one of us actually do it.

Anyone at any time can beat the odds of the game short term.....but we sure would like to see it ....."Long term."

Then it really is a system.......not just luck.

with RL.

Its cheaper to work on a particular state and use the trend of hot digits ,due roots etc.  and in the long term this means more wins. As an example the 11 pair hit last week in NM and hit again last night.  I think anticipating digits in this manner and keeping a close eye on what has hit is a far more effective tool instead of throwing \$25 a pop and hoping to win

 Fri, Jun 21, 2013 5-1-1?Prize Payouts Thu, Jun 20, 2013 7-5-3?Prize Payouts Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2-2-0?Prize Payouts Tue, Jun 18, 2013 4-0-5?Prize Payouts Mon, Jun 17, 2013 6-9-4?Prize Payouts Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1-1-8?Prize Payouts Fri, Jun 14, 2013 4-3-3?Prize Payouts

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 Posted: June 22, 2013, 5:27 pm - IP Logged

Hello there lottolaughs, here are my 25 # selections boxed or straight play all everyday or make selections from the list below according to your budget until June 30.

567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789

345 346 347 348 349 356 357 358 359 367

025 026 027 028 029

Here we are with a \$traight>>>>> hit!!!!!

 Tue, Jun 18, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 3-5-8

A boxed hit this time around!

 Thu, Jun 20, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 4-8-3

Third hit out of the group!

A boxed hit!

 Sat, Jun 22, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 5-0-2

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Hello there lottolaughs, here are my 25 # selections boxed or straight play all everyday or make selections from the list below according to your budget until June 30.

567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789

345 346 347 348 349 356 357 358 359 367

025 026 027 028 029

Here we are with a \$traight>>>>> hit!!!!!

 Tue, Jun 18, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 3-5-8

A boxed hit this time around!

 Thu, Jun 20, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 4-8-3

Third hit out of the group!

A boxed hit!

 Sat, Jun 22, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 5-0-2

Wow u are on fire

"I will prepare and some day my chance will come ."

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 Posted: June 22, 2013, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

Ca Pick 3 Eve

06/22/13     thru    06/24/13

056, 076, 256, 276, 856, 876
656, 676

Stone Mountain*Georgia
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with RL.

Its cheaper to work on a particular state and use the trend of hot digits ,due roots etc.  and in the long term this means more wins. As an example the 11 pair hit last week in NM and hit again last night.  I think anticipating digits in this manner and keeping a close eye on what has hit is a far more effective tool instead of throwing \$25 a pop and hoping to win

 Fri, Jun 21, 2013 5-1-1?Prize Payouts Thu, Jun 20, 2013 7-5-3?Prize Payouts Wed, Jun 19, 2013 2-2-0?Prize Payouts Tue, Jun 18, 2013 4-0-5?Prize Payouts Mon, Jun 17, 2013 6-9-4?Prize Payouts Sat, Jun 15, 2013 1-1-8?Prize Payouts Fri, Jun 14, 2013 4-3-3?Prize Payouts

Laker ben .....

You miss the point again lakerben !  You definitely can not read. Your hijacking and you are off subject again.  You are a very persistent ...sneaky ...stubborn fella. We have ask you not to feel like you must insert yourself with your "special opinions" and views on off topic stuff. People don't like it.

Manners count.  ....they still count.

RL basically said the same thing ....only more eloquently.  My statement was more in the form of a challenge for folks wanting a goal to strive for. Beat the odds

But ...I see you went off topic again and slipped into one of the many... many  "Lakerben's commercials" about nothing new. " The world as lakerben says you must see it! "  You spit out a system for every hour of the day.  Why don't you go use one of them?

If you ....if you have that over whelming emotion come up in you again...and you feel you must speak on your subjects ......do it on your own time and your own posts.  You have more post than anyone here at LP. to choose from.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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 Posted: June 22, 2013, 10:14 pm - IP Logged

Ca Pick 3 Eve

06/22/13     thru    06/24/13

056, 076, 256, 276, 856, 876
656, 676

California (CA) Daily 3 Evening Lottery Results

Draw Date  Results
Sat, Jun 22, 20138-9-4?

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How many numbers to play? Hmmm, well, I believe two additional questions may assist with the answer to this one. (1) What   type of hit is the player trying to accomplish? (2) How often is the player trying to re-produce that same hit? Then, there's also the issue of the houses's odds where the player is wagering...makes a difference. In my opinion, it's a combination of how many numbers and how well the numbers are arranged. There are also more factors to consider than just number count...although that's important as well.

L.L.

Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

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 Posted: June 23, 2013, 2:01 pm - IP Logged

Collective intuition and wisdom of the crowds in full effect.

The top 25 single combo boxes for the Texas Pick 3 as of 6/18/13 are...

028 126 048 145 013 015 389 127 034 157

169 159 125 239 047 345 279 347 378 026

017 268 148 569 678

25 combos once a day for 6 days at 50 cents each = a \$75 risk. The set of 25 combos would have to hit at least twice to even make a \$5 profit. The name of the game is to be accurate and profitable. In texas we can play the pick 3 twice a day. \$75 x 2 = risking \$150 a week for maybe one or 2 hits and of course would need at least 4 hits to make a \$10 profit....nahhhh I'll pass. If I'm missing the whole point or looking at this in the wrong way feel free to inform me of your views.

I can't say that I would play one specific set of combinations all week especially only 25 combos and still expect to be profitable at the end of the week. So here are 35 combos I feel will hit only for tonight in Texas.

019 028 029 039 046 047 048 049 056 057

058 067 069 128 136 137 138 145 146 147

148 156 157 168 238 245 246 247 258 267

345 346 348 357 456

35 Combos. Play any order for 50 cents.

Cost \$17.5

Win \$40

Profit \$22.50

Doubles are over due so it would be wise to play a few. My 49 double combos.

889 557 668 223 355 004 266 116 122 677

599 299 115 224 144 088 566 344 588 009

033 002 227 099 233 055 005 228 446 669

077 339 334 011 119 388 377 899 448 166

799 466 337 044 003 277 499 118 199

49 combos. Play any order for 50 cents.

Cost \$24.5

Win \$80

Profit \$55.5

Hey Laverne !!

"Know what I mean Vern", in my Ernest P. Worrell voice.... classic

25 combos is not for the average wager (\$5/day), I think the ' thread'  is targeted to guys with deep bankroll, but will not be cost-effective overtime.  I have a different approach,i  don't subscribe to the law of large numbers, number of hits but rather how much I want to win(Prize ratio). Focus on how much you want to win and your picks become lesser and lesser.

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These are good weekly numbers, I got them from somewhere's, and at least in North Carolina, they

hit every week, sometimes 2 or 3 times, for instance on 6-21 mid, 101 hit, straight,

then the following day, 358 hit, boxed, mid day,

I have a feeling these are good numbers that are good for all states, just my saying, but check it out,

at theleast all it is is time, good luck to all. Lottolaughs, I may have gotten them from you, I have

read so much of your stuff, and tryed alot of it, lots work, thank you

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 Posted: June 23, 2013, 10:02 pm - IP Logged

Ca Pick 3 Eve

06/22/13     thru    06/24/13

056, 076, 256, 276, 856, 876
656, 676

California (CA) Daily 3 Evening Lottery Results

Draw Date  Results
Sun, Jun 23, 20137-1-6?
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Win D,

You started an interesting topic and I would like to chip in some comments which potential power players may find useful.

I've always been in favor of playing many tickets for every draw, be it Pick 3 or other lotteries. This always increases chances for winning and allows for applying additional strategies which may further increase winning prospects.

I put all my trust in the stats for predicting future numbers. But I also test (backtrack) everything before I put it to use.

I ran a couple of simulations for different lotteries. Never played any of them but had some data for each. So, for curiosity, I did some backtracks for them.

The lotteries I used for sims were Kansas, Belgium, Louisiana, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Washington and Wisconsin. The numbers were outdated, mostly from last year. But their currency is not important in this case – what the results revealed is.

The conditions for the tests were as follows:

For each test hot and cold numbers for the latest 15 draws (which I believe are the most relevant) were compared. Frequency stats were updated after each consecutive draw so the “hot” numbers for the beginning of the sim not necessarily ended up as such at the end of the sim. The same applied to “colds”. The sim computed how many winners were produced by “hots” and “colds”, each separately.

Each sim ran for 30 days. I tested for 5 numbers in each category and the targets were straight singles. The 5 numbers were wheeled for straight singles requiring 60 tickets per draw – not for the faint-hearted! But if you got 3 out of 5 you were guaranteed a straight single.

The results were quite surprising. Out of 7 lotteries tested 3 produced financial winners for their 30 day period. They were Kansas (8 SS for hot) Belgium (4 SS for hot) and, watch that! - Oklahoma (7 SS but surprisingly, for colds).

In order to stay on plus side you need a minimum of 4 wins.

Such results were not only surprising but also encouraging. Have anybody in LP ever tried similar sims and what were their results?

Aquarius

......

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 Posted: June 24, 2013, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

CA Pick3 Eve

06/24/13    thru     06/26/13

278, 279, 298, 428, 429, 478, 479,

498, 628, 629, 678, 679, 698
228, 229, 299, 499, 69

Economy Lines :

278, 279, 298, 428, 429, 478, 628, 629
228, 229

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Win D,

You started an interesting topic and I would like to chip in some comments which potential power players may find useful.

I've always been in favor of playing many tickets for every draw, be it Pick 3 or other lotteries. This always increases chances for winning and allows for applying additional strategies which may further increase winning prospects.

I put all my trust in the stats for predicting future numbers. But I also test (backtrack) everything before I put it to use.

I ran a couple of simulations for different lotteries. Never played any of them but had some data for each. So, for curiosity, I did some backtracks for them.

The lotteries I used for sims were Kansas, Belgium, Louisiana, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Washington and Wisconsin. The numbers were outdated, mostly from last year. But their currency is not important in this case – what the results revealed is.

The conditions for the tests were as follows:

For each test hot and cold numbers for the latest 15 draws (which I believe are the most relevant) were compared. Frequency stats were updated after each consecutive draw so the “hot” numbers for the beginning of the sim not necessarily ended up as such at the end of the sim. The same applied to “colds”. The sim computed how many winners were produced by “hots” and “colds”, each separately.

Each sim ran for 30 days. I tested for 5 numbers in each category and the targets were straight singles. The 5 numbers were wheeled for straight singles requiring 60 tickets per draw – not for the faint-hearted! But if you got 3 out of 5 you were guaranteed a straight single.

The results were quite surprising. Out of 7 lotteries tested 3 produced financial winners for their 30 day period. They were Kansas (8 SS for hot) Belgium (4 SS for hot) and, watch that! - Oklahoma (7 SS but surprisingly, for colds).

In order to stay on plus side you need a minimum of 4 wins.

Such results were not only surprising but also encouraging. Have anybody in LP ever tried similar sims and what were their results?

Aquarius

Excellent post and stats aquariuslottery..... thank you for a very informative and intertaining post. Really great stats and presented so well!

You put some real work into your test......  It's always nice when someone else does all the background work and we reap the benefits. LOL

Really ....thank you and please keep us in the loop.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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 Posted: June 24, 2013, 11:14 pm - IP Logged

Hello there lottolaughs, here are my 25 # selections boxed or straight play all everyday or make selections from the list below according to your budget until June 30.

567 568 569 578 579 589 678 679 689 789

345 346 347 348 349 356 357 358 359 367

025 026 027 028 029

Here we are with a \$traight>>>>> hit!!!!!

 Tue, Jun 18, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 3-5-8

A boxed hit this time around!

 Thu, Jun 20, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 4-8-3

Third hit out of the group!

A boxed hit!

 Sat, Jun 22, 2013 California Daily 3 Midday 5-0-2

Fourth hit out of the group!

A boxed hit!

 Mon, Jun 24, 2013 California Daily 3 Evening 8-5-7

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