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BOHICA* Illinois, another twist from Northstar coming

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Zeta Reticuli Star System
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Posted: September 17, 2013, 5:38 pm - IP Logged

* Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

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Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

Lep

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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    Posted: September 18, 2013, 7:28 am - IP Logged

    * Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

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    Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

    The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

    Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

    Yikes, hope this isn't going to spread.

    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

    For a lead role in a cage?

     

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      Posted: September 18, 2013, 1:22 pm - IP Logged

      * Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

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      Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

      The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

      Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

      CT:

      PartyCan't hardly wait 2 git the new & bigger MM payout $!$!$!$'s

                         Here "IT" come>>>>watch>out>>>> MM U will like "IT" !!

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        Posted: September 21, 2013, 8:20 am - IP Logged

        Pick 12 game Puke

        4 draws per day Thud

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          Posted: September 21, 2013, 8:54 am - IP Logged

          * Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

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          Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

          The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

          Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

          The new IL Hit or Miss game looks just like TX All or Nothing game rebranded:

          http://www.illinoislottery.com//en-us/hom-faq.html

          Except looks like they learned from the mistakes of TX AoN and launched HoM with a liability cap in place, and no boxes on the playslip for odd/even, high/low. And they added a twist with a higher grand prize with multiplier.

          It's a good game, hope it does spread and makes it to Cali.

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            Posted: September 21, 2013, 9:01 am - IP Logged

            The Good Life Number, What? i guess i have to go check it out

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              Posted: September 21, 2013, 7:51 pm - IP Logged

              Jon D,

              Thanks for the link to the Illinoi lotery FAQ page on Hit or Miss, I hadn't seen anything on their website prior to this.

              Sounds like these lottery directors are definitley talking to each other, or at least copy-cating each other.

              To me this game sounds like when a bunch of new players go into lo-ball poker, going into pots with pairs and what have you. "Oh, I'll play, I always get bad cards."

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: September 22, 2013, 12:12 am - IP Logged

                Jon D,

                Thanks for the link to the Illinoi lotery FAQ page on Hit or Miss, I hadn't seen anything on their website prior to this.

                Sounds like these lottery directors are definitley talking to each other, or at least copy-cating each other.

                To me this game sounds like when a bunch of new players go into lo-ball poker, going into pots with pairs and what have you. "Oh, I'll play, I always get bad cards."

                Actually, the executive directors meet at a convention each year and share ideas. That's why we're seeing more states doing the same thing. More draws pr day, and higher ticket prices.

                The AON/HOM game started in Ireland some years ago, but didn't survive for some reason. I like to play it 2 or 3 times a week. But there's no way I'll play it 24 times a week. I do have to say it has very good overall odds of winning at least your $2 back. But, it's still hard to win a jackpot. There hasn't been a jackpot winner in Tx yet since the game started back up on Aug 26th.

                CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

                A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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                  Posted: September 22, 2013, 9:19 am - IP Logged

                  Hmmm...after a 2nd look, I don't think I like what IL did with their version of this 12/24 game.

                  They followed the typical lotto formula of robbing from the middle class prizes to give to the top prize. Hit or Miss ends up with similar total return as TX All or Nothing, around 56%. But in typical average play, only 30% return for HoM versus 40-45% for AoN. A big price to pay for the honor of having that Good Life grand prize. If they had just added the grand prize, instead of reducing the mid tier prizes, the game would've had a 70% total payout, similar to scratch games. But alas, it is not so.

                  ILHit or Miss$2 
                  Total ReturnPrizesOdds 1 inMatch
                  55.66%$2,000,000 13,520,78012 of 12 +G
                  48.27%$2,000,000 13,520,7800 of 12 +G
                  40.87%$250,000 2,704,15611 of 12
                  36.25%$250,000 2,704,1561 of 12
                  31.62%$250 18,77911 of 12
                  30.96%$250 18,7791 of 12
                  30.30%$20 62110 of 12
                  28.73%$20 6212 of 12
                  27.16%$5 569 of 12
                  23.09%$5 563 of 12
                  18.86%$2 118 of 12
                  10.41%$2 114 of 12
                  __4.538_

                  Compared to TX AoN:

                  TXAll or Nothing$2 
                  Total ReturnPrizesOdds 1 inMatch
                  55.98%$250,000 2,704,15612 of 12
                  51.36%$250,000 2,704,1560 of 12
                  46.74%$500 18,77911 of 12
                  45.41%$500 18,7791 of 12
                  44.08%$50 62110 of 12
                  40.12%$50 6212 of 12
                  36.14%$10 569 of 12
                  27.66%$10 563 of 12
                  18.86%$2 118 of 12
                  10.41%$2 114 of 12
                  __4.538_
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                    Posted: September 22, 2013, 11:39 am - IP Logged

                    Hmmm... just saw this new game this morning... thanks for the info folks.

                    Boy, I sure do like the transparency of the TX lotto website... can easily drill down to the AoN payouts to get a feel for how this IL game may roll.

                    The IL twist of a GL grand prize + 250K gives this game an interesting niche... 1 in 13Mil odds vs. IL lotto grand prize of 1 in 20 mil odds, but yeah, the middle tier payouts/odds of this game are weak in order to support that GL option... it is tempting though Disapprove

                    Appears if you want better mid tier payouts, that's where "powered lotto" comes into play now... but I haven't looked close enough to be sure about that.

                    -RC

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                      Posted: September 22, 2013, 1:25 pm - IP Logged

                      The lotteries must be really starving for money given the way they are adding new games and changing the existing ones. #Sequestration

                      That money's gone fo ever