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Sep 17, 2013, 5:38 pm

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Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Sep 18, 2013, 7:28 am

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 17, 2013
* Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

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Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

Yikes, hope this isn't going to spread.
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Sep 18, 2013, 1:22 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 17, 2013
* Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

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Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

CT:

Can't hardly wait 2 git the new & bigger MM payout $!$!$!$'s

Here "IT" come>>>>watch>out>>>> MM U will like "IT" !!
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Sep 21, 2013, 8:20 am

Pick 12 game

4 draws per day
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Sep 21, 2013, 8:54 am

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 17, 2013
* Bend Over, Here It Comes Again

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Illinois has a new item on the lottery monitors that says Coming Soon, Hit and Miss.....

The playslip shown looks like a Pick 3 or Pick 4 playslip.

Ther's nothing on the IL Lottery website yet but I'm sure this is going to be another add $1 to your bet affair from Northstar.

The new IL Hit or Miss game looks just like TX All or Nothing game rebranded:

http://www.illinoislottery.com//en-us/hom-faq.html

Except looks like they learned from the mistakes of TX AoN and launched HoM with a liability cap in place, and no boxes on the playslip for odd/even, high/low. And they added a twist with a higher grand prize with multiplier.

It's a good game, hope it does spread and makes it to Cali.
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Sep 21, 2013, 9:01 am

The Good Life Number, i guess i have to go check it out
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Sep 21, 2013, 7:51 pm

Jon D,

Thanks for the link to the Illinoi lotery FAQ page on Hit or Miss, I hadn't seen anything on their website prior to this.

Sounds like these lottery directors are definitley talking to each other, or at least copy-cating each other.

To me this game sounds like when a bunch of new players go into lo-ball poker, going into pots with pairs and what have you. "Oh, I'll play, I always get bad cards."

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Sep 22, 2013, 12:12 am

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Sep 21, 2013
Jon D,

Thanks for the link to the Illinoi lotery FAQ page on Hit or Miss, I hadn't seen anything on their website prior to this.

Sounds like these lottery directors are definitley talking to each other, or at least copy-cating each other.

To me this game sounds like when a bunch of new players go into lo-ball poker, going into pots with pairs and what have you. "Oh, I'll play, I always get bad cards."

Actually, the executive directors meet at a convention each year and share ideas. That's why we're seeing more states doing the same thing. More draws pr day, and higher ticket prices.

The AON/HOM game started in Ireland some years ago, but didn't survive for some reason. I like to play it 2 or 3 times a week. But there's no way I'll play it 24 times a week. I do have to say it has very good overall odds of winning at least your $2 back. But, it's still hard to win a jackpot. There hasn't been a jackpot winner in Tx yet since the game started back up on Aug 26th.

CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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Sep 22, 2013, 9:19 am

Hmmm...after a 2nd look, I don't think I like what IL did with their version of this 12/24 game.

They followed the typical lotto formula of robbing from the middle class prizes to give to the top prize. Hit or Miss ends up with similar total return as TX All or Nothing, around 56%. But in typical average play, only 30% return for HoM versus 40-45% for AoN. A big price to pay for the honor of having that Good Life grand prize. If they had just added the grand prize, instead of reducing the mid tier prizes, the game would've had a 70% total payout, similar to scratch games. But alas, it is not so.

IL	Hit or Miss	$2
Total Return	Prizes	Odds 1 in	Match
55.66%	$2,000,000	13,520,780	12 of 12 +G
48.27%	$2,000,000	13,520,780	0 of 12 +G
40.87%	$250,000	2,704,156	11 of 12
36.25%	$250,000	2,704,156	1 of 12
31.62%	$250	18,779	11 of 12
30.96%	$250	18,779	1 of 12
30.30%	$20	621	10 of 12
28.73%	$20	621	2 of 12
27.16%	$5	56	9 of 12
23.09%	$5	56	3 of 12
18.86%	$2	11	8 of 12
10.41%	$2	11	4 of 12
_	_	4.538	_

Compared to TX AoN:

TX	All or Nothing	$2
Total Return	Prizes	Odds 1 in	Match
55.98%	$250,000	2,704,156	12 of 12
51.36%	$250,000	2,704,156	0 of 12
46.74%	$500	18,779	11 of 12
45.41%	$500	18,779	1 of 12
44.08%	$50	621	10 of 12
40.12%	$50	621	2 of 12
36.14%	$10	56	9 of 12
27.66%	$10	56	3 of 12
18.86%	$2	11	8 of 12
10.41%	$2	11	4 of 12
_	_	4.538	_

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Sep 22, 2013, 11:39 am

Hmmm... just saw this new game this morning... thanks for the info folks.

Boy, I sure do like the transparency of the TX lotto website... can easily drill down to the AoN payouts to get a feel for how this IL game may roll.

The IL twist of a GL grand prize + 250K gives this game an interesting niche... 1 in 13Mil odds vs. IL lotto grand prize of 1 in 20 mil odds, but yeah, the middle tier payouts/odds of this game are weak in order to support that GL option... it is tempting though

Appears if you want better mid tier payouts, that's where "powered lotto" comes into play now... but I haven't looked close enough to be sure about that.

-RC
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Sep 22, 2013, 1:25 pm

The lotteries must be really starving for money given the way they are adding new games and changing the existing ones. #Sequestration

That money's gone fo ever

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