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I've noticed this about MM/PB jackpot winners

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IPlayWeekly's avatar - avatarmoney
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Posted: September 26, 2013, 6:03 pm - IP Logged

While searching the past MM/PB results, I've noticed, there hasn't been a jackpot winning ticket where ALL the numbers were under 31.  I play birthday's so the highest number I play is 30.  I do realize most winners are qp, maybe I'll buy an extra qp ticket.  Unlike some of you, I'm playing MM/PB for 4/6 or 5/6.. better odds and I always play the extra dollar.  I've hit 3/6 several times=)

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    Posted: September 26, 2013, 6:39 pm - IP Logged

    IPlayWeekly,

    Considering the size of the matrix no jackpot set of numbers all under 31 isn't really shocking.

    A lot of the lotto gurus though warn about playing all your numbers 31 and under because so many people play birthdays and anniversaries that if such a set ever wins it will be split a lot of ways.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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      Posted: September 26, 2013, 6:49 pm - IP Logged

      No surprises. There are only 5,267,241 MM/PB combinations under and including the number 31.

      That leaves 170+ million combinations.

      If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
      If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

      2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
      P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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        Posted: September 26, 2013, 7:32 pm - IP Logged

        No surprises. There are only 5,267,241 MM/PB combinations under and including the number 31.

        That leaves 170+ million combinations.

        hmm, I never thought of it that way... lol

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          Posted: September 26, 2013, 9:40 pm - IP Logged

          I came up with 3 Powerball drawings in the past year with numbers 30 or less. Listed below are date, white balls, powerball, jackpot, and winning state(s).

          2012-11-28  5  16  22  23  29  - 6  587,500,000.00  AZ, MD
          2012-12-19  5  8    20  23  30  - 3    50,000,000.00  KS
          2013-05-25  2  6    19  21  27 -  25  50,000,000.00  DE, FL, LA

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            Posted: September 26, 2013, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

            I came up with 3 Powerball drawings in the past year with numbers 30 or less. Listed below are date, white balls, powerball, jackpot, and winning state(s).

            2012-11-28  5  16  22  23  29  - 6  587,500,000.00  AZ, MD
            2012-12-19  5  8    20  23  30  - 3    50,000,000.00  KS
            2013-05-25  2  6    19  21  27 -  25  50,000,000.00  DE, FL, LA

            I was curious about this myself.

            Since there are 5,267,241 combinations for number 31 and under, then for Powerball this means that one should occur roughly 3% of the time.

            If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
            If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

            2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
            P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1

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              Posted: September 27, 2013, 6:17 am - IP Logged

              I came up with 3 Powerball drawings in the past year with numbers 30 or less. Listed below are date, white balls, powerball, jackpot, and winning state(s).

              2012-11-28  5  16  22  23  29  - 6  587,500,000.00  AZ, MD
              2012-12-19  5  8    20  23  30  - 3    50,000,000.00  KS
              2013-05-25  2  6    19  21  27 -  25  50,000,000.00  DE, FL, LA

              Hey, Can you pull stats to see how many winners hit the 250k prize?

              Thanks.

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                Posted: September 27, 2013, 8:25 am - IP Logged

                IPlayWeekly,

                Considering the size of the matrix no jackpot set of numbers all under 31 isn't really shocking.

                A lot of the lotto gurus though warn about playing all your numbers 31 and under because so many people play birthdays and anniversaries that if such a set ever wins it will be split a lot of ways.

                Yep, I would agree with that, but I am guilty of filling playslips out like that every now and then.

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                  Posted: September 27, 2013, 9:25 am - IP Logged

                  The reason most winners are QP's are for two reasons. Reason 1, most people are not strategy lotto players, they play birthdates, anniversaries, special dates etc. Reason 2, using a system to play multi state lotteries is a waste of time, because of the odds, due to the large main number field and the second power number field. I'm an advid user of systems, but I use smart picks for the MSL's when I play them, I never pick my own. I only do that for my state lotto's . That is why I also keep my budge in check win I play the MSL's, because I know it's an extreme long shot. Think about it. Tens of millions of combinations are processed for every MM and powerball drawing yet no one hits, so the jackpot rolls over and tens of millions of more tickets are purchassed and nobody hits that drawing so it get bigger.  Look how many weeks MM has gone without a winner. QP's are not going to improve your chances, it's just a ticket it prints at random with hopeful the right combo.

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                    Posted: September 27, 2013, 10:02 am - IP Logged

                    hmm, I never thought of it that way... lol

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                      Posted: September 27, 2013, 10:38 pm - IP Logged

                      Today's advice " Maybe you should going forward".

                      I almost bought a qp but didn't... got my regular numbers.

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                        Posted: September 29, 2013, 1:49 am - IP Logged

                        While searching the past MM/PB results, I've noticed, there hasn't been a jackpot winning ticket where ALL the numbers were under 31.  I play birthday's so the highest number I play is 30.  I do realize most winners are qp, maybe I'll buy an extra qp ticket.  Unlike some of you, I'm playing MM/PB for 4/6 or 5/6.. better odds and I always play the extra dollar.  I've hit 3/6 several times=)

                        Did you bother noticing whether or not any of the winning combinations had numbers that were all under 31? No winning tickets simply means that nobody played th enumbers that won, not that there's anything noteworthy about the winning numbers.

                        Did you notice whether or not any of the combinations you've ever played have ever been drawn as the winning numbers? A pattern of numbers that has only a 1 in 1000 chance of being drawn is still 175,000 times more likely to be drawn than whatever combination you play, regardless of which numbers you choose.

                        In the last 2 years all birthday numbers were drawn 8 times (assuming I didn't miss any) for MM. Two of those combinations produced winners (5/15/12 and 12/18/12) of modest jackpots. 8 times out of 208 drawings is 3.85%. Considering that all birthday combinations account for only 3.0% of the possible combinations, they have been selected about 30% more often during the last 2 years than probability would suggest. That would have made playing all birthday numbers a good strategy. It would have been an even better strategy in early 2012. 4 of 26 drawings in the first 3 months of 2012 were all birthday combinations. That's just over 15%, making them 5 times more likely. They actually happened over a period of only 12 drawings, on 2/14/12, 2/24/12, 3/20/12 and 3/23/12. The last two would have netted jackpots of $241 or $290 million respectively.

                        It might be worth noting that the 2 of 8 drawings resulting in winnersis about twice the roughly 12% we see for all drawings (figuring there are typically about a dozen winners out of the 104 drawings per year).