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Hot Lotto is struggling. So will Mega Millions after October 22.

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Nikkicute's avatar - nnjx1k
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Posted: September 29, 2013, 1:37 am - IP Logged

It seems many people abandoned HotLotto after the matrix changes of May 12, 2013. The jackpot was rising by more than $100,000 anytime the jp was over $1.3M  but notice what happened after May 11 when many players, myself included, abandoned the game. 

The last drawing of May 11, 2013 before the matrix change had a jackpot of $6.11M from the previous jp and had risen by $230,000. Nobody hit the May 11 jp and so it rose, but just barely. It rose by a mere $50,000 despite the fact that the jp was still more than $6M.

 

 Draw Date Jackpot Amount Change
 SAT 09/28/13 $1.75 Million+$50,000
 WED 09/25/13 $1.70 Million+$50,000
 SAT 09/21/13 $1.65 Million+$50,000
 WED 09/18/13 $1.60 Million+$50,000
 SAT 09/14/13 $1.55 Million+$50,000
 WED 09/11/13 $1.50 Million+$50,000
 SAT 09/07/13 $1.45 Million+$50,000
 WED 09/04/13 $1.40 Million+$50,000
 SAT 08/31/13 $1.35 Million+$50,000
 WED 08/28/13 $1.30 Million+$50,000
 SAT 08/24/13 $1.25 Million+$50,000
 WED 08/21/13 $1.20 Million+$50,000
 SAT 08/17/13 $1.15 Million+$50,000
 WED 08/14/13 $1.10 Million+$50,000
 SAT 08/10/13 $1.05 Million-$6.31 Million
 WED 08/07/13 $7.36 Million+$50,000
 SAT 08/03/13 $7.31 Million+$50,000
 WED 07/31/13 $7.26 Million+$50,000
 SAT 07/27/13 $7.21 Million+$50,000
 WED 07/24/13 $7.16 Million+$50,000
 SAT 07/20/13 $7.11 Million+$50,000
 WED 07/17/13 $7.06 Million+$50,000
 SAT 07/13/13 $7.01 Million+$50,000
 WED 07/10/13 $6.96 Million+$50,000
 SAT 07/06/13 $6.91 Million+$50,000
 WED 07/03/13 $6.86 Million+$50,000
 SAT 06/29/13 $6.81 Million+$50,000
 WED 06/26/13 $6.76 Million+$50,000
 SAT 06/22/13 $6.71 Million+$50,000
 WED 06/19/13 $6.66 Million+$50,000
 SAT 06/15/13 $6.61 Million+$50,000
 WED 06/12/13 $6.56 Million+$50,000
 SAT 06/08/13 $6.51 Million+$50,000
 WED 06/05/13 $6.46 Million+$50,000
 SAT 06/01/13 $6.41 Million+$50,000
 WED 05/29/13 $6.36 Million+$50,000
 SAT 05/25/13 $6.31 Million+$50,000
 WED 05/22/13 $6.26 Million+$50,000
 SAT 05/18/13 $6.21 Million+$50,000
 WED 05/15/13 $6.16 Million+$50,000
 SAT 05/11/13 $6.11 Million+$230,000
 WED 05/08/13 $5.88 Million+$210,000
 SAT 05/04/13 $5.67 Million+$190,000
 WED 05/01/13 $5.48 Million+$200,000
 SAT 04/27/13 $5.28 Million+$200,000
 WED 04/24/13 $5.08 Million+$170,000
 SAT 04/20/13 $4.91 Million+$230,000
 WED 04/17/13 $4.68 Million+$190,000
 SAT 04/13/13 $4.49 Million+$230,000
 WED 04/10/13 $4.26 Million+$110,000
 SAT 04/06/13 $4.15 Million+$210,000

Do you think MM will struggle like Hot Lotto after the matrix changes? 

Do you think my analysis is right on Hot Lotto struggling?

Do you think MM will struggle like Hot Lotto after the matrix changes?

Nope!!! Not enough left Powerball after the price change, MegaMillions is still a $1 !!

Once that jackpot get to record highs, no one is going to care about a matrix, all they will

be thinking about is winning.

...the secret to Luck is never to trust it...

2012 wins:$20 loss:$200  2013 wins:$100 loss:$270  2014 wins:$360 loss:$273 

2015 wins:$0 loss:$53 2016 wins:$0 loss:$22 

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    Posted: September 29, 2013, 4:27 pm - IP Logged

    Do you think MM will struggle like Hot Lotto after the matrix changes?

    Nope!!! Not enough left Powerball after the price change, MegaMillions is still a $1 !!

    Once that jackpot get to record highs, no one is going to care about a matrix, all they will

    be thinking about is winning.

    I hope you are right for the sake of the decision makers at MM. But I am pretty sure they're looking at Hot Lotto struggles and wondering if they're about to commit the mistake of their lives. Four months from now I shall be doing a MM comparison of before and after the matrix changes. We'll see.

    That money's gone fo ever

      Think's avatar - lightbulb
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      Posted: October 1, 2013, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

      It seems many people abandoned HotLotto after the matrix changes of May 12, 2013. The jackpot was rising by more than $100,000 anytime the jp was over $1.3M  but notice what happened after May 11 when many players, myself included, abandoned the game. 

      The last drawing of May 11, 2013 before the matrix change had a jackpot of $6.11M from the previous jp and had risen by $230,000. Nobody hit the May 11 jp and so it rose, but just barely. It rose by a mere $50,000 despite the fact that the jp was still more than $6M.

       

       Draw Date Jackpot Amount Change
       SAT 09/28/13 $1.75 Million+$50,000
       WED 09/25/13 $1.70 Million+$50,000
       SAT 09/21/13 $1.65 Million+$50,000
       WED 09/18/13 $1.60 Million+$50,000
       SAT 09/14/13 $1.55 Million+$50,000
       WED 09/11/13 $1.50 Million+$50,000
       SAT 09/07/13 $1.45 Million+$50,000
       WED 09/04/13 $1.40 Million+$50,000
       SAT 08/31/13 $1.35 Million+$50,000
       WED 08/28/13 $1.30 Million+$50,000
       SAT 08/24/13 $1.25 Million+$50,000
       WED 08/21/13 $1.20 Million+$50,000
       SAT 08/17/13 $1.15 Million+$50,000
       WED 08/14/13 $1.10 Million+$50,000
       SAT 08/10/13 $1.05 Million-$6.31 Million
       WED 08/07/13 $7.36 Million+$50,000
       SAT 08/03/13 $7.31 Million+$50,000
       WED 07/31/13 $7.26 Million+$50,000
       SAT 07/27/13 $7.21 Million+$50,000
       WED 07/24/13 $7.16 Million+$50,000
       SAT 07/20/13 $7.11 Million+$50,000
       WED 07/17/13 $7.06 Million+$50,000
       SAT 07/13/13 $7.01 Million+$50,000
       WED 07/10/13 $6.96 Million+$50,000
       SAT 07/06/13 $6.91 Million+$50,000
       WED 07/03/13 $6.86 Million+$50,000
       SAT 06/29/13 $6.81 Million+$50,000
       WED 06/26/13 $6.76 Million+$50,000
       SAT 06/22/13 $6.71 Million+$50,000
       WED 06/19/13 $6.66 Million+$50,000
       SAT 06/15/13 $6.61 Million+$50,000
       WED 06/12/13 $6.56 Million+$50,000
       SAT 06/08/13 $6.51 Million+$50,000
       WED 06/05/13 $6.46 Million+$50,000
       SAT 06/01/13 $6.41 Million+$50,000
       WED 05/29/13 $6.36 Million+$50,000
       SAT 05/25/13 $6.31 Million+$50,000
       WED 05/22/13 $6.26 Million+$50,000
       SAT 05/18/13 $6.21 Million+$50,000
       WED 05/15/13 $6.16 Million+$50,000
       SAT 05/11/13 $6.11 Million+$230,000
       WED 05/08/13 $5.88 Million+$210,000
       SAT 05/04/13 $5.67 Million+$190,000
       WED 05/01/13 $5.48 Million+$200,000
       SAT 04/27/13 $5.28 Million+$200,000
       WED 04/24/13 $5.08 Million+$170,000
       SAT 04/20/13 $4.91 Million+$230,000
       WED 04/17/13 $4.68 Million+$190,000
       SAT 04/13/13 $4.49 Million+$230,000
       WED 04/10/13 $4.26 Million+$110,000
       SAT 04/06/13 $4.15 Million+$210,000

      Do you think MM will struggle like Hot Lotto after the matrix changes? 

      Do you think my analysis is right on Hot Lotto struggling?

      It is all divide and conquer.  There are so many games that nobody wins anything on any of them.  Michigan has numerous bad games such as poker lotto(coming), club keno, pull tabs, almost all the scratchers, daily keno, Halloween Raffle and the tired old classic 47.  With so many stupider ways to squander money the jackpots just don't get up there anymore and fewer and fewer people win them.

      Look at that 50 or so million jackpot in Ohio...I believe that has been rolling for over 2 years to get that high.  2 years with no winners!

      The only way to really do it is lower the odds to about 120 million to 1 and raise the ticket to at least $3

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        Posted: October 1, 2013, 11:19 pm - IP Logged

        It is all divide and conquer.  There are so many games that nobody wins anything on any of them.  Michigan has numerous bad games such as poker lotto(coming), club keno, pull tabs, almost all the scratchers, daily keno, Halloween Raffle and the tired old classic 47.  With so many stupider ways to squander money the jackpots just don't get up there anymore and fewer and fewer people win them.

        Look at that 50 or so million jackpot in Ohio...I believe that has been rolling for over 2 years to get that high.  2 years with no winners!

        The only way to really do it is lower the odds to about 120 million to 1 and raise the ticket to at least $3

        I agree. It's getting crazy.

        That money's gone fo ever

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          Posted: October 2, 2013, 11:38 am - IP Logged

          Do you think MM will struggle like Hot Lotto after the matrix changes?

          Nope!!! Not enough left Powerball after the price change, MegaMillions is still a $1 !!

          Once that jackpot get to record highs, no one is going to care about a matrix, all they will

          be thinking about is winning.

          You are right in the fact that once it gets to record highs people will play.  The problem will be how long will it take to get to those highs.  We just had 18 - 19 rolls and it didn't even hit 200,000,000.  With the new matrix people will not be playing as much as it begins its climb so it could take forever before there is any interest.  I know I will cut back on my playing until it is over 200 million.

          The current powerball comes out of the gate strong at 40 million and rolls up much quicker on each draw that is why we have stuck with it.

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            Posted: October 2, 2013, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

            I don't like the matrix change (and have cut my playing of the game way down) and I don't like the fact that it only goes up only by $50,000, but I usually play a line or two each drawing.

            Right now it's 1.8 million and that isn't a MM or PB jackpot levels, but it's tax free so I figure  one or two tickets is worth it.

            "No one remembers the person who almost climbed the mountain, only the person who eventually gets to the top."

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              Posted: October 2, 2013, 5:40 pm - IP Logged

              I don't like the matrix change (and have cut my playing of the game way down) and I don't like the fact that it only goes up only by $50,000, but I usually play a line or two each drawing.

              Right now it's 1.8 million and that isn't a MM or PB jackpot levels, but it's tax free so I figure  one or two tickets is worth it.

              If I lived in a state that didn't offer a games smaller than MM & PB but larger than Pick 3 & 4 then I would probably still play Hot Lotto which I got in NH, a place I go often. But I am inundated with much better games. We have a 5/35, 5/43+1/43  and  6/49 games including MM & PB and Pick 3 & 4. 

              That money's gone fo ever

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                Posted: October 15, 2013, 12:00 pm - IP Logged

                Hot Lotto was hit on October 12, 2013, worth $1.97 million, in Tennessee

                Congratulation Tennessee on your first Hot Lotto winParty

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                  Posted: October 15, 2013, 4:59 pm - IP Logged

                  Hot Lotto was hit on October 12, 2013, worth $1.97 million, in Tennessee

                  Congratulation Tennessee on your first Hot Lotto winParty

                  Its nice that the winning ticket was bought in TN - the newest state to join Hot Lotto. If you're still playing this game dcf then goodluck to you!

                  That money's gone fo ever