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duckman

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Oct 28, 2013, 6:12 pm

According to the Florida Lottery website today there were 3 winners from the 10/27 Fantasy 5 drawing. Notice the last 2 were QuickPicks from the same store. If this is not a misprint on the website then that is a very rare event...

10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP La Sorpresa Produce Market $59,128.67 4501 N.W. 7th Street, Miami
10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP Publix #0223 $59,128.67 14601 S. Dixie Hwy., Palmetto Bay
10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP Publix #0223 $59,128.67 14601 S. Dixie Hwy., Palmetto Bay
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Oct 28, 2013, 8:08 pm

Saw that, very odd but I guess not impossible.
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Oct 28, 2013, 8:18 pm

Likely a misprint but not impossible of course.

The odds of a duplicate quick pick are the same as the odds of winning. So to get the odds of a duplicate quick pick from the same store would probably be calculated using either the sales for that store versus the total sales, or using the number of stores in Florida.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
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Oct 28, 2013, 8:24 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Oct 28, 2013
Likely a misprint but not impossible of course.

The odds of a duplicate quick pick are the same as the odds of winning. So to get the odds of a duplicate quick pick from the same store would probably be calculated using either the sales for that store versus the total sales, or using the number of stores in Florida.

That's right. A month or two after the Texas Lottery kicked off, there was a man downstate that got two identical QP on the same ticket. I've also read about more extreme cases, one in N. Mexico where a guy got something like six identical QP tickets and one similar case in Arizona, but I believe both of those were terminal/computer glitches.
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Oct 28, 2013, 8:40 pm

Quote: Originally posted by duckman on Oct 28, 2013
According to the Florida Lottery website today there were 3 winners from the 10/27 Fantasy 5 drawing. Notice the last 2 were QuickPicks from the same store. If this is not a misprint on the website then that is a very rare event...

10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP La Sorpresa Produce Market $59,128.67 4501 N.W. 7th Street, Miami
10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP Publix #0223 $59,128.67 14601 S. Dixie Hwy., Palmetto Bay
10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP Publix #0223 $59,128.67 14601 S. Dixie Hwy., Palmetto Bay

Don't surprise me none with Publix.

That's a very lucky store for Jackpots.

But I'd hafta go clear out to Knoxville to find one of them.

Think I will...
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Oct 28, 2013, 9:17 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Oct 28, 2013
Likely a misprint but not impossible of course.

The odds of a duplicate quick pick are the same as the odds of winning. So to get the odds of a duplicate quick pick from the same store would probably be calculated using either the sales for that store versus the total sales, or using the number of stores in Florida.

It's not just a duplicate Quick Pick. It's a duplicate QP that also matched the drawn numbers! Now that's real long odds!
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Oct 28, 2013, 9:25 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jon D on Oct 28, 2013
It's not just a duplicate Quick Pick. It's a duplicate QP that also matched the drawn numbers! Now that's real long odds!

Doesn't matter. The odds of a duplicate quick pick are the same for any pick, regardless if the lottery drew it or not.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
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Oct 28, 2013, 9:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Oct 28, 2013
Doesn't matter. The odds of a duplicate quick pick are the same for any pick, regardless if the lottery drew it or not.

Duplicate quick pick at the same store matching the drawn numbers? Sure it matters.
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Oct 28, 2013, 9:29 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jon D on Oct 28, 2013
Duplicate quick pick at the same store matching the drawn numbers? Sure it matters.

Not the same as what you were saying. Yes, long odds for a duplicate at the same store. That would be a case of conditional odds. But not for the odds of any duplicate, that is independent.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
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Oct 28, 2013, 9:31 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoMetro on Oct 28, 2013
Not the same as what you were saying. Yes, long odds for a duplicate at the same store. That would be a case of conditional odds. But not for the odds of any duplicate, that is independent.

Ummm...did you read the thread title and OP? Same store, same draw, duplicate quick picks won.
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Oct 28, 2013, 9:31 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jon D on Oct 28, 2013
Ummm...did you read the thread title and OP? Same store, same draw, duplicate quick picks won.

Did you read my first post in this thread, third sentence?

To quote your post, "It's not just a duplicate Quick Pick. It's a duplicate QP that also matched the drawn numbers! Now that's real long odds!"

This is what I was referring to in my responses to you. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

P&L % = Total Win($)/Total Wager($) - 1
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Oct 29, 2013, 6:53 am

Quote: Originally posted by duckman on Oct 28, 2013
According to the Florida Lottery website today there were 3 winners from the 10/27 Fantasy 5 drawing. Notice the last 2 were QuickPicks from the same store. If this is not a misprint on the website then that is a very rare event...

10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP La Sorpresa Produce Market $59,128.67 4501 N.W. 7th Street, Miami
10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP Publix #0223 $59,128.67 14601 S. Dixie Hwy., Palmetto Bay
10/27/2013 UNCLAIMED AT THIS TIME - QP Publix #0223 $59,128.67 14601 S. Dixie Hwy., Palmetto Bay

Where do find on their site where the tickets were purchased?

Possible that it did sell 2 QP. Unless the person totally hosed up the entry for the website, the 3 prizes add up to the estimated jackpot size since its para-mutuel.

On another note, if you click on the all the games on their website, only for Fantasy 5, does it say this twice, "Please note that every effort has been made to ensure that the enclosed information is accurate; however, in the event of an error, the winning numbers and prize amounts in the official records of the Florida Lottery shall be controlling."

Hmmmm
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Oct 29, 2013, 10:11 am

Quote: Originally posted by schmuckatelly on Oct 29, 2013
Where do find on their site where the tickets were purchased?

Possible that it did sell 2 QP. Unless the person totally hosed up the entry for the website, the 3 prizes add up to the estimated jackpot size since its para-mutuel.

On another note, if you click on the all the games on their website, only for Fantasy 5, does it say this twice, "Please note that every effort has been made to ensure that the enclosed information is accurate; however, in the event of an error, the winning numbers and prize amounts in the official records of the Florida Lottery shall be controlling."

Hmmmm

For each game's page there is a link "Top Prize Winners & Retailer Information".

For Fantasy5 the link is: http://flalottery.com/exptkt/f5of36winners_Dec09_to_present.pdf

As of the time of this post, it is still showing the 2 winning quick picks from the same store for the same drawing for 10/27/2013...if it is a misprint, sooner or later they may get around to changing it.

I am thinking it was probably 2 identical quick picks on the same ticket. Back in 2008 I actually had a 5-line quick pick ticket that had 2 lines the same. It is very rare, but to have that happen and win the top prize, well, that is true luck

Here's a pic of the ticket from 2008 (no win on the duplicate QP, did win 1 free ticket on the third line):
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Oct 29, 2013, 10:30 am

Quote: Originally posted by duckman on Oct 29, 2013
For each game's page there is a link "Top Prize Winners & Retailer Information".

For Fantasy5 the link is: http://flalottery.com/exptkt/f5of36winners_Dec09_to_present.pdf

As of the time of this post, it is still showing the 2 winning quick picks from the same store for the same drawing for 10/27/2013...if it is a misprint, sooner or later they may get around to changing it.

I am thinking it was probably 2 identical quick picks on the same ticket. Back in 2008 I actually had a 5-line quick pick ticket that had 2 lines the same. It is very rare, but to have that happen and win the top prize, well, that is true luck

Here's a pic of the ticket from 2008 (no win on the duplicate QP, did win 1 free ticket on the third line):

Yeah, it can happen.

The occurrence of repeat combos is about as rare as winning a jackpot, or quite a bit less less depending on the range of picks.(same ticket or same store) But the likelihood of a repeat winning the jackpot is a VERY rare event. Probably about once a decade in FL Fantasy 5 in the same store.
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Oct 29, 2013, 1:10 pm

When I buy large amount of tickets for work lottery pool, I usually will go to different stores to purchase them. One time I bought just 10 tickets, and 3 consecutive lines had the same 3 numbers. But look at the optimistic side, what if those 3 numbers is part of the winning numbers and you happen to have the other 2 or 3 numbers!