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Backward engineering a winning pick.

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Posted: December 11, 2013, 1:42 am - IP Logged

I think it might be better to forward engineer a winning pick as I cant wager for yesterdays game.

With 5/39 and larger matrix games, reverse engineering will give large groups of combos. Most of the past winners had one to four even numbers and one to four low numbers. People use lots of methods for statistical analysis, but it usually shows the results are pretty close to probability. Past history shows some numbers were drawn a lot more than others, but for future play, the trick is knowing which numbers.

The MM jackpot is $400 million and I'm making a prediction; the majority of conversation on LP won't be about "how to pick the numbers".

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    Posted: December 11, 2013, 2:32 am - IP Logged

    A quick pick is just not my style but if it works for you, good luck.

    For last night's drawing I couldn't get my system to work with 75 numbers since 8 of the new ones hadn't hit yet so I brought some AP(auto picks) just to be in the game.  I should have saved my money and worked on getting my system to work instead.  Hopefully I'll have something figured out for Friday.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: December 11, 2013, 7:55 am - IP Logged

      If you're generating lines from a reduced number field and then playing every tenth line or something like that.  I would suggest checking all the numbers are in play among those reduced lines and if not take the insurance of making up one more line that includes those missing numbers.

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        Posted: December 11, 2013, 11:53 am - IP Logged

        I have the complete history of Ohio's Classic Lotto which include 1064 drawings and the complete history of the old Super Lotto Plus too.

        Sorry, I missed this post. 

        Do you have it in excel?  That's what I have been using.  I believe I have all the drawings since Jan. 22, 2007.  But nothing from the old Super Lotto Plus.  What was that matrix?

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          Posted: December 11, 2013, 5:16 pm - IP Logged

          For backwards engineering, what patterns are you checking precisely?


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            Posted: December 11, 2013, 5:29 pm - IP Logged

            With 5/39 and larger matrix games, reverse engineering will give large groups of combos. Most of the past winners had one to four even numbers and one to four low numbers. People use lots of methods for statistical analysis, but it usually shows the results are pretty close to probability. Past history shows some numbers were drawn a lot more than others, but for future play, the trick is knowing which numbers.

            The MM jackpot is $400 million and I'm making a prediction; the majority of conversation on LP won't be about "how to pick the numbers".

            You are correct.  I have come to the conclusion that sophisticated pattern finders are not really compelled to display their findings publicly on LP.  (although the ego will challenge those conclusions at times)

            How to pick the numbers is a matter logic and intuition.  (And intuition is just logic too extreme and expansive for the human brain to calculate on paper, thats why intuition alwasy occurs in flashes, akin to the speed of light some might say) 

            And so for lottery players, "Ye who has no logic, need not enter here."

            I dont think you backward engineer.

            You backtest, and then you forward engineer.

            And backtesting is only done so you can have an ideas as to whether a certain given strategy is going to cost 3 thousand, or 10 thousand.

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              Posted: December 12, 2013, 8:41 pm - IP Logged

              You are correct.  I have come to the conclusion that sophisticated pattern finders are not really compelled to display their findings publicly on LP.  (although the ego will challenge those conclusions at times)

              How to pick the numbers is a matter logic and intuition.  (And intuition is just logic too extreme and expansive for the human brain to calculate on paper, thats why intuition alwasy occurs in flashes, akin to the speed of light some might say) 

              And so for lottery players, "Ye who has no logic, need not enter here."

              I dont think you backward engineer.

              You backtest, and then you forward engineer.

              And backtesting is only done so you can have an ideas as to whether a certain given strategy is going to cost 3 thousand, or 10 thousand.

              Every combination will eventually be drawn, but because the jackpot games have a large amount of combos, the odds are we won't see it in our life times. Getting 5 out of 13 to 18 on a 5/39 game is doable, but the cost of guaranteeing matching all 5 is pretty high.

              If anything, I'd try to reverse engineer a winning circumstance like RJ's 5 out of 6. I matched 5 out of 6 several years ago in a 6/44 game by drawing all 44 numbers from a hat and putting them into combinations of 6. Probably just a coincidence, but I've hit pick-3 numbers straight by drawing 10 cards ace to 10 and playing the 10 combos in they order were drawn. The new MM games is taylor made to use each of the 75 numbers once in 15 combos and play each line with one of the 15 bonus numbers.

              I've noticed lots of LP members are discussion the Megaplier which I believe is a better overall bet for the secondary prizes. The thing is, if they are playing for the $400 million plus jackpot, they can get two chances for every one Megaplier they purchase.

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                Posted: December 13, 2013, 7:20 am - IP Logged

                I had 5/6 with the complimentary in the same pool of numbers, scoring 5 in one line long ago, but it was not reverse engineering.

                For Mega Millions I have doubts that a program does better than a good gambler guessing his numbers to play.

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                  Posted: December 13, 2013, 7:32 am - IP Logged

                  If you play 6/49 and 1 of 10 combinations came close with 5/6, for that line alone there were other 258 possibilities. For ten lines it is around ten times that much. 2580 others plus your 10 is 2590 combinations to be sure to get the 6 on one line. If you had that once in a year, with 52 games, you would have to invest C2590*$52, or $134680. With two drawings in a week it is $269360.

                  How close did you get that day? 1:2590

                  I wish you good luck with your approach.