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ranman17's avatar - jzy6nr
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Enter #

793

Enter Eve draw from the first of the month

 

 

 

 

816

This is a 123 Rundown

 

939

 

 

052

 

 

175

 

 

298

 

 

311

 

 

434

 

 

557

 

 

670

 

 

 

 

 

399

Enter first double from the Rundown here with the double as back pair

 

 

 

 

599

Play these 5 sets $1 combo 5X each for up to 30 draws max for a straight payout

 

499

 

 

399

 

 

299

 

 

199

 

 

NY Results
for 2013

Starting #

Double

Drws
'till hit

Investment

Gross

Net

Jan

917

003

23

$1,380.00

$2,500.00

$1,120.00

Feb

956

633

19

$1,140.00

$2,500.00

$1,360.00

Mar

077

323

17

$1,020.00

$2,500.00

$1,480.00

Apr

253

969

6

$360.00

$2,500.00

$2,140.00

May

054

XXX

30

$1,800.00

$0.00

-$1,800.00

June

404

848

28

$1,680.00

$2,500.00

$820.00

July

071

833

15

$900.00

$2,500.00

$1,600.00

Aug

931

XXX

30

$1,800.00

$0.00

-$1,800.00

Sept

849

223

5

$300.00

$2,500.00

$2,200.00

Oct

502

070

17

$1,020.00

$2,500.00

$1,480.00

Nov

532

755

5

$300.00

$2,500.00

$2,200.00

Dec

793

XXX

30

$1,800.00

$0.00

-$1,800.00

 

 

 

 

$13,500.00

$22,500.00

$9,000.00

 

Here is the download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpkvm2oicg3jo21/123%20Dbls.xlsx

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    Now this, I wouldn't want to invest that much money and live on hope I get it back and then some. No way  Hit With Stick

      ranman17's avatar - jzy6nr
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      Now this, I wouldn't want to invest that much money and live on hope I get it back and then some. No way  Hit With Stick

      I owned a business for 22 years and it cost me $60,000.00 every month to run that place and the profit was about 12% which means that for my 60K investment I would profit $7,200.00.

      That's what business is, it is a matter of weighing the risks against the rewards.  I can tell you this; it's not for everyone.  Many expenes, a lot of stress and a lot of liability.

      So, if you look at this like a business (and you should) an annual investment of $13,500.00 to garner a profit of $9,000.00 (according to the 2013 info I posted) represents a 66.66% profit margin...not to shabby.  The truth is, if you were to multiply these numbers by 10 you would have invested $135,000.00 for the year and in that year you would have gotten back your investment plus $90,000.00.

      $90,000.00 isn't hard to swallow, is it?

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        I owned a business for 22 years and it cost me $60,000.00 every month to run that place and the profit was about 12% which means that for my 60K investment I would profit $7,200.00.

        That's what business is, it is a matter of weighing the risks against the rewards.  I can tell you this; it's not for everyone.  Many expenes, a lot of stress and a lot of liability.

        So, if you look at this like a business (and you should) an annual investment of $13,500.00 to garner a profit of $9,000.00 (according to the 2013 info I posted) represents a 66.66% profit margin...not to shabby.  The truth is, if you were to multiply these numbers by 10 you would have invested $135,000.00 for the year and in that year you would have gotten back your investment plus $90,000.00.

        $90,000.00 isn't hard to swallow, is it?

        It's not but a very risky business!

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          Ranman17  interesting concept.  I was curious if you could do this daily rather than once a month. so I tested it. my testing indicates that for KY eve game, keeping the numbers for 1 to 3 days, every day, gives about the same winning percentage 30% increase.

          checking midday, forget 1 day out but 2,3,4,5,6or 7 days all resulted in a 200% gain.  this is over a 100 game period. the wins were clustered. you can have some long losing streaks, but well worth more testing. 

          thanks

          p8

            ranman17's avatar - jzy6nr
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            Ranman17  interesting concept.  I was curious if you could do this daily rather than once a month. so I tested it. my testing indicates that for KY eve game, keeping the numbers for 1 to 3 days, every day, gives about the same winning percentage 30% increase.

            checking midday, forget 1 day out but 2,3,4,5,6or 7 days all resulted in a 200% gain.  this is over a 100 game period. the wins were clustered. you can have some long losing streaks, but well worth more testing. 

            thanks

            p8

            HI p8,

             

            I started using this in 2010 in NY and it was quite profitable.  I think if it were fine tuned or had some alerts built in on when to play and when to hold it could be more profitable.  Feel free to tinker with it and let me know what you come up with.  All input is welcome.  FYI this was a loser for 2012 in NY

             

            ranman

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              I owned a business for 22 years and it cost me $60,000.00 every month to run that place and the profit was about 12% which means that for my 60K investment I would profit $7,200.00.

              That's what business is, it is a matter of weighing the risks against the rewards.  I can tell you this; it's not for everyone.  Many expenes, a lot of stress and a lot of liability.

              So, if you look at this like a business (and you should) an annual investment of $13,500.00 to garner a profit of $9,000.00 (according to the 2013 info I posted) represents a 66.66% profit margin...not to shabby.  The truth is, if you were to multiply these numbers by 10 you would have invested $135,000.00 for the year and in that year you would have gotten back your investment plus $90,000.00.

              $90,000.00 isn't hard to swallow, is it?

              Nice  investment strategy, but the question to pose, do you consider lottery as investment? most people play for the thrill and excitement, even if they lose. If the government can tax you on winning tickets, then your cost of waging  is tax deductible  on yearly returns. I do give requested predictions for members to play in a short span, only to hear   'OMG,  I did not play, i miss the close time" whole lot of excuses,inadvertenly they spend a lot due to lack strategy. Financial planning can be overwhlming, mixed with skeptical undertaking like lottery is scary, so is a no , no and no!

                ranman17's avatar - jzy6nr
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                Nice  investment strategy, but the question to pose, do you consider lottery as investment? most people play for the thrill and excitement, even if they lose. If the government can tax you on winning tickets, then your cost of waging  is tax deductible  on yearly returns. I do give requested predictions for members to play in a short span, only to hear   'OMG,  I did not play, i miss the close time" whole lot of excuses,inadvertenly they spend a lot due to lack strategy. Financial planning can be overwhlming, mixed with skeptical undertaking like lottery is scary, so is a no , no and no!

                I do think that lottery can be viewed as an investment but it takes a huge amount of confidence in your method.  I do not currently play the system that I posted here but I did in 2010 and had a profitable year.  I think that if people researched a system and found that that system was profitable in the long run and have the ability/determination to ride out the lows with the highs they could use the lotto as a supplemental income.  It's much like stocks and commodities, if you get scared when the market moves against you and you bail you won't reap the rewards when the market swings back in your favor as it tends to do.

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                  Enter #

                  793

                  Enter Eve draw from the first of the month

                   

                   

                   

                   

                  816

                  This is a 123 Rundown

                   

                  939

                   

                   

                  052

                   

                   

                  175

                   

                   

                  298

                   

                   

                  311

                   

                   

                  434

                   

                   

                  557

                   

                   

                  670

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

                  399

                  Enter first double from the Rundown here with the double as back pair

                   

                   

                   

                   

                  599

                  Play these 5 sets $1 combo 5X each for up to 30 draws max for a straight payout

                   

                  499

                   

                   

                  399

                   

                   

                  299

                   

                   

                  199

                   

                   

                  NY Results
                  for 2013

                  Starting #

                  Double

                  Drws
                  'till hit

                  Investment

                  Gross

                  Net

                  Jan

                  917

                  003

                  23

                  $1,380.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $1,120.00

                  Feb

                  956

                  633

                  19

                  $1,140.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $1,360.00

                  Mar

                  077

                  323

                  17

                  $1,020.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $1,480.00

                  Apr

                  253

                  969

                  6

                  $360.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $2,140.00

                  May

                  054

                  XXX

                  30

                  $1,800.00

                  $0.00

                  -$1,800.00

                  June

                  404

                  848

                  28

                  $1,680.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $820.00

                  July

                  071

                  833

                  15

                  $900.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $1,600.00

                  Aug

                  931

                  XXX

                  30

                  $1,800.00

                  $0.00

                  -$1,800.00

                  Sept

                  849

                  223

                  5

                  $300.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $2,200.00

                  Oct

                  502

                  070

                  17

                  $1,020.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $1,480.00

                  Nov

                  532

                  755

                  5

                  $300.00

                  $2,500.00

                  $2,200.00

                  Dec

                  793

                  XXX

                  30

                  $1,800.00

                  $0.00

                  -$1,800.00

                   

                   

                   

                   

                  $13,500.00

                  $22,500.00

                  $9,000.00

                   

                  Here is the download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpkvm2oicg3jo21/123%20Dbls.xlsx

                  Sorry, ranman17, I did not get the part about how many sets exactly to play. 5 sets each time or also each set 6 ways to hit straight? Just if you could formulate this part in details I would appreciated..

                  Thank you for sharing..Smile

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                    Sorry, ranman17, I did not get the part about how many sets exactly to play. 5 sets each time or also each set 6 ways to hit straight? Just if you could formulate this part in details I would appreciated..

                    Thank you for sharing..Smile

                    You would play each of the doubles in red in all of its permutations.  So, if the number sets were 799, 699, 599, 499 & 399 you would play:

                    799 979 997

                    699 969 996

                    599 959 995

                    499 949 994

                    399 939 993

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                      You would play each of the doubles in red in all of its permutations.  So, if the number sets were 799, 699, 599, 499 & 399 you would play:

                      799 979 997

                      699 969 996

                      599 959 995

                      499 949 994

                      399 939 993

                      Each combo bet cost $3 (a $ a pick)x 5 lines =15 x 30 draws(presume combined draws)> Total cost>$450  ?

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                        799 means 799-997-979, so instead of marking the 3 sets on wager, just select 799 and select bet option ' combo' - is just permutation, ie 3 ways. For single digit set like 123, you have 6 ways, so selecting a 'combo' option will cost you $6 or $3 (50 cent or a $ pick)

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                          799 means 799-997-979, so instead of marking the 3 sets on wager, just select 799 and select bet option ' combo' - is just permutation, ie 3 ways. For single digit set like 123, you have 6 ways, so selecting a 'combo' option will cost you $6 or $3 (50 cent or a $ pick)

                          That is correct but I explained the way I did because of the way the question was asked.  Also, not all states have the combo option.  I spent a week in PA one year and I went to the store to play a P3 number and asked for it combo but when I went to redem my ticket (I won) I only received boxed money.  When I asked why the clerk informed that they do not have combo plays and the clerk from the day before did not have a full command of the english language and therefore did not communicate such.

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                            Each combo bet cost $3 (a $ a pick)x 5 lines =15 x 30 draws(presume combined draws)> Total cost>$450  ?

                            Thank you ranman17 for respond and adobea78, so yes, then the other question comes, total cost$ 450 a month, then how that you got expences in Jan for exp. 1, 380.00 $, I mean 23 draws until you hit..? May be you paid more for the tickets back then? So sorry that I am not following this..

                            Thanks again..Smile

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                              Thank you ranman17 for respond and adobea78, so yes, then the other question comes, total cost$ 450 a month, then how that you got expences in Jan for exp. 1, 380.00 $, I mean 23 draws until you hit..? May be you paid more for the tickets back then? So sorry that I am not following this..

                              Thanks again..Smile

                              It is only $450.00 if you have not hit by the 30th draw.  If you hit any time before that the expense is less and the winnings are greater.

                              For example if I hit the number after only 5 draws I would have spent $45.00 and I would have won $500.00 for a total profit of $455.00.

                              If I hit the number after only 19 draws I would have spent $171.00 and I would have won $500.00 for a total profit of $329.00.

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