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# Splitting the jackpot with a bazillion others

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Cranston, RI
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 Posted: January 28, 2014, 7:23 pm - IP Logged

I cant cite the exact specifics, but ...   About 20 years ago the Massachusetts Megabucks had a jackpot of \$3 million or so.   I think this was when players picked 6 out of 36.  Apparently, there were a bazillion winners who picked 4 digits or 5 digits and that eroded the jackpot down under \$200k.  Even so, there were a dozen(?) players who wound up splitting what was left.  Each player who picked all 6 numbers took home less than \$10k after taxes.  I don't remember the numbers, but probably a pattern like 7, 11, 17, 21, 27, 31 or something similar.

So, what's the worst case that you've seen?  The winner expecting wealth beyond belief and wound up with less than one tenth of what he was expecting.

And on a releted note:  Does any lottery publish numbers that are chosen so that the serious player can avoid those numbers?  Now, if they publish that nobody picked 8,14,21,37,38,39, then I'm sure that the following week, at least 20 people would pick those numbers.  But if they published something like "The most infrequent triplet of numbers is 22,23,37" then I would make sure that my six numbers included those three.

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 Posted: January 28, 2014, 7:33 pm - IP Logged

That's like bringing a 12 pack to a party of 20. Everyone gets screwed.

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That is why you avoid combinations such as 7,14,21,28,35 ((7)) or 1,11,21,31,41 (1) or 5,10,15,20,25 ((30)). Or if you have a hunch they will be drawn then you get yourself multiple tickets with the same numbers for that draw to come out ahead of everybody else.

That money's gone fo ever

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 Posted: January 29, 2014, 6:46 am - IP Logged

That's like bringing a 12 pack to a party of 20. Everyone gets screwed.

LOL I can speak from experience on that one, I bought a 12pk to a party of 8 and I got the 12 and the other 7 went to the store to get their own, I dont buy beer for other people unless i get my money upfront

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 Posted: January 29, 2014, 1:04 pm - IP Logged

In California, a year ago, we had Fantasy 5 winners each take home \$1,967 after winning our pick 5 game.  The jackpot starts at \$50,000 and the average jackpot is around \$100,000, so I checked what happened that day and found out the numbers drawn were 16-17-18-19-20.

Weird things happen...

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 Posted: January 29, 2014, 1:39 pm - IP Logged

I cant cite the exact specifics, but ...   About 20 years ago the Massachusetts Megabucks had a jackpot of \$3 million or so.   I think this was when players picked 6 out of 36.  Apparently, there were a bazillion winners who picked 4 digits or 5 digits and that eroded the jackpot down under \$200k.  Even so, there were a dozen(?) players who wound up splitting what was left.  Each player who picked all 6 numbers took home less than \$10k after taxes.  I don't remember the numbers, but probably a pattern like 7, 11, 17, 21, 27, 31 or something similar.

So, what's the worst case that you've seen?  The winner expecting wealth beyond belief and wound up with less than one tenth of what he was expecting.

And on a releted note:  Does any lottery publish numbers that are chosen so that the serious player can avoid those numbers?  Now, if they publish that nobody picked 8,14,21,37,38,39, then I'm sure that the following week, at least 20 people would pick those numbers.  But if they published something like "The most infrequent triplet of numbers is 22,23,37" then I would make sure that my six numbers included those three.

I found one while analyzing a game's history. 10 winners in a \$700,000 jackpot. None of them quick picks. Figured something was shady, but most of the winners were in different cities. Turns out the winning numbers were in denominations of 9 (like 9, 18, 27 etc)! Without consideration for conscious selection and assuming randomness, the odds of this occuring with 10 winners were over 1 in 500,000,000,000.

I haven't seen any lottery publish most common played numbers; however, if they provide the number of winners per draw you can set up a distribution of the winning numbers with their respective number of winners. This can help you figure out which numbers tend to be chosen the most. For instance, in one game I've looked at, the number of draws with no winners has a higher proportion of the number 15. This tells me that if the winning numbers include 15, a great majority of the time there will be no winner. This information doesn't really give you an edge, just decreases your chances of sharing the jackpot.

If the chances of winning the jackpot are so slim, why play when the jackpot is so small? Your chances never change, but the potential payoff does.
If a crystal ball showed you the future of the rest of your life, and in that future you will never win a jackpot, would you still play?

2016: -48.28% (13 tickets) ||
P&L % = Total Win(\$)/Total Wager(\$) - 1

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 Posted: January 29, 2014, 1:47 pm - IP Logged

That is why you avoid combinations such as 7,14,21,28,35 ((7)) or 1,11,21,31,41 (1) or 5,10,15,20,25 ((30)). Or if you have a hunch they will be drawn then you get yourself multiple tickets with the same numbers for that draw to come out ahead of everybody else.

Are you saying it's better not win anything than to have to share with lots of other winners?

I'm happy when I win a few hundred bucks, sharing a jackpot with others can be worst than that.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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 Posted: January 29, 2014, 10:09 pm - IP Logged

I cant cite the exact specifics, but ...   About 20 years ago the Massachusetts Megabucks had a jackpot of \$3 million or so.   I think this was when players picked 6 out of 36.  Apparently, there were a bazillion winners who picked 4 digits or 5 digits and that eroded the jackpot down under \$200k.  Even so, there were a dozen(?) players who wound up splitting what was left.  Each player who picked all 6 numbers took home less than \$10k after taxes.  I don't remember the numbers, but probably a pattern like 7, 11, 17, 21, 27, 31 or something similar.

So, what's the worst case that you've seen?  The winner expecting wealth beyond belief and wound up with less than one tenth of what he was expecting.

And on a releted note:  Does any lottery publish numbers that are chosen so that the serious player can avoid those numbers?  Now, if they publish that nobody picked 8,14,21,37,38,39, then I'm sure that the following week, at least 20 people would pick those numbers.  But if they published something like "The most infrequent triplet of numbers is 22,23,37" then I would make sure that my six numbers included those three.

Florida Fantasy 5 with an estimated top prize of \$200,000 on Aug 28th, 2012 drew 1, 3, 5, 7, 9.

Total number of winners - 98

Amount each person won - \$1,995.32

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 Posted: January 30, 2014, 12:53 am - IP Logged

Florida Fantasy 5 with an estimated top prize of \$200,000 on Aug 28th, 2012 drew 1, 3, 5, 7, 9.

Total number of winners - 98

Amount each person won - \$1,995.32

People who play 1-2-3-4-5-6 or the last six numbers of a matrix far exceed 98 with your example of their orientation of the numbers being all odd numbers. The 1-2-3-4-5-6 people run in the thousands. I found this out a few years ago. In p-3 and p-4 it's triples and quads , example:333-7777.

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