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The worst stigma for wealth.....Born into it, marry into it, or win the lottery?

Born into it

[ 2 ]

[ 18.2% ]

Marry into it

[ 2 ]

[ 18.2% ]

Win the lottery

[ 7 ]

[ 63.6% ]

Total valid votes

[ 11 ]

Discarded votes

[ 6 ]

veganlife125

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Feb 7, 2014, 6:55 pm

Which would give you the most grief once you were outed?

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ttech10

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Feb 7, 2014, 7:03 pm

Born into it... you come from people who knew how to make money.

Marry into it... at least your partner could make money (or came from parents who knew how to).

Lottery... you lucked into money.

The lottery is the only one I can see that doesn't have some sort of positive surrounding it. Those who were born into it and those who married into it would both likely look down upon you. Of course, who really cares what people might think of them for being lottery winners? I'd love for my biggest "problem" to be that some snooty country club member doesn't think I'm fit to join them.
Jon D

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Feb 7, 2014, 7:17 pm

Born into it? There ain't no stigma. That's the default and at the top of the snooty rich scale. They were raised in it, it's in their blood, and they're part of a dynasty. Old money is best.

Marry into it, is OK too, as long as you're not from across the tracks or the chaufeur's daughter or something.

Then as you go down the snooty scale, you have new money rich, the best of which is that which is made on the backs or misfortune of others like bankers, hedge fund, private equity, etc.

Further down is the rich and famous like celebrities and athletes, not quite cultured, and some riff raff too.

Next is entrepreneurs, like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk. They create and produce for society, so are not as valued as those that got rich making absolutely nothing.

And way way down at the bottom are lottery winners. They didn't earn it, and didn't take it. Money was just handed to them on a single stroke of luck. No respect there.
IPlayWeekly

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Feb 7, 2014, 7:40 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jon D on Feb 7, 2014
Born into it? There ain't no stigma. That's the default and at the top of the snooty rich scale. They were raised in it, it's in their blood, and they're part of a dynasty. Old money is best.

Marry into it, is OK too, as long as you're not from across the tracks or the chaufeur's daughter or something.

Then as you go down the snooty scale, you have new money rich, the best of which is that which is made on the backs or misfortune of others like bankers, hedge fund, private equity, etc.

Further down is the rich and famous like celebrities and athletes, not quite cultured, and some riff raff too.

Next is entrepreneurs, like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk. They create and produce for society, so are not as valued as those that got rich making absolutely nothing.

And way way down at the bottom are lottery winners. They didn't earn it, and didn't take it. Money was just handed to them on a single stroke of luck. No respect there.

This is such a true and accurate post
jrosina

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Feb 7, 2014, 7:59 pm

I discarded my vote, Born into it, married or winning it, it is wealth...the heck with the stigma!! as long as I can help people!!

forget what "they" say about you. What you say about you?...

Now, does it count??

*Jr$ina
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Ringleader

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Feb 7, 2014, 8:02 pm

No stigma about it, better then being a freeloader.
Jon D

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Feb 7, 2014, 8:15 pm

Quote: Originally posted by IPlayWeekly on Feb 7, 2014
This is such a true and accurate post
Coin Toss

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Feb 8, 2014, 12:11 am

I checked win the lottery although I wanted to check marry into it but that doesn't seem to have put any stigma on Kerry, who did it twice.

I don't think born into it has as much stigma, if any, as the others. How many time have you heard someone described as "Heir to the _ _ _ __ _ fortune"?

I still think old money looks at jackpot winners as, "Oh, lottery money? They won't have it long" which is unfortunately true all too often.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
Toronto

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Feb 8, 2014, 3:09 am

I think winning the lottery is only above something like founding Cash America, which beats criminally attaining wealth.
rdgrnr

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Feb 8, 2014, 6:05 am

Quote: Originally posted by veganlife125 on Feb 7, 2014
Which would give you the most grief once you were outed?

Stigma?

Grief?

Winning the lottery wouldn't make me no nevermind what other people think.

For me it'd be kinda like a line from that Johnny Cash song, A Boy Named Sue:

"Some girl'd giggle and I'd get red and some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head"
Shelby Mustang

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Feb 8, 2014, 8:09 am

LOL FREELOADERS which are the born into it's and marry into it's...and way down the ask you for it's, which could still be the born into it's and marry into it's
Artist77

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Feb 8, 2014, 9:54 am

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Feb 8, 2014
Stigma?

Grief?

Winning the lottery wouldn't make me no nevermind what other people think.

For me it'd be kinda like a line from that Johnny Cash song, A Boy Named Sue:

"Some girl'd giggle and I'd get red and some guy'd laugh and I'd bust his head"

lol I agree. What stigma for wealth? I don't get these people worrying about not being "accepted" into the country club and treated "right" if they win the lottery. If you basically get along with people before and are accepted, it will be the same afterwards (unless you are some of the people profiled on LCML or are the" Justin Bieber" in your neighborhood). If you spend your whole life whining about some people in high school having more "clout" and money than you and maybe you will be "blamed" for something, it sounds like the paranoia and chip is on your shoulders. There will always be someone who has more $ and clout than you.
Coin Toss

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Feb 8, 2014, 5:43 pm

I'd say there's a stigma for having wealth.

I knew a guy who worked on cars back in the 1970s and a guy kept bringing his Cadillac in for a 'noise'. Finally the shop found the source - which was put in at the factory. There was a beer can with some pebbles in it in the firewall and on the can was a note that said, "Hope you had fun finding this you rich ba****d".

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
duckman

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Feb 8, 2014, 5:53 pm

It does not matter. What does matter is what you do with what you got...
Toronto

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Feb 8, 2014, 6:26 pm

John Jacob Astor skinned rabbits to build his wealth, now his family is one of the most prominent in that upper crust society.