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Which and How Many Past draws to use for predictions?

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I was asked 3 questions:

I won't post the questions themselves just the answers to 2 of the questions:

 Things are relative, it all depends.

Sometimes you need to use combined day and night past draws and sometimes you don't.

You try both ways, you see some stats on each of the 2 ways and you use whichever looks more favorable for you at that particular time as the patterns and their stats will change in time, sometimes one way works best and sometimes the other way will be best, it all depends on what you are looking for, that is in your particular way or ways of making predictions.

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Again it all depends on your particular way of making predictions, that is on your prediction logic.

A person should try to learn how to make good enough predictions using as few as possible past draws, updating a game's database is some trouble, but whatever works best for the way that you can predict best, some people need a very long database of past draws and some others use a few past draws, it all depends in what your particular prediction method needs and works best with.

Use as few past draws as you need, learn to predict with as few as possible past draws, if not, well use as many past draws as you need and still win, be many or few.

I will try to better explain, maybe with examples later and or little by little on other posts here to follow maybe soon.

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    First, talking about the pick 3 game.

    How can we predict numbers for it?

    "Chance" will always be there no matter how we predict.

    There will always be people who win by chance, that is by using quick-picks, birthdays, favorite numbers, Etc.

    Winning in that way, that allows us to just buy 1 or a very few numbers so we might not win very often, but we won't spend too much.

    Some people might want to take their chance making predictions using stats of patterns made by the past winning numbbers.

    In that way they hope to win more often even if they have to spend more money in order to win, but some people are able to predict just one or a very few numbers.

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    While not all the straight pick 3 numbers have to come out or win sooner or later many of them will, as to the boxed numbers, they do come out more often.

    Also singles come out more often than doubles, but doubles pay more and straights of course pay more.

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    Patterns do come out more often than the numbers themselves, so often we might try to predict patterns and not the numbers themselves.

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      Striaight pick 3 numbers should come out about once every 1000 draws, but of course don't.

      Boxed singles should maybe (I am not sure) come out once every 166.67 draws.

      Boxed doubles shuld come out about once every 333.33 draws.

      As to the patterns it depends on the patterns, for example:

      There are 10 patterns (digits) on the LDRs (last digit of the sums) so each LDR should come out about once every 10 draws.

      On the straight Low-High there are 8 patterns should each should come out once every 8 draws, same for the Even-Odd, In-Out, Bala-Nced and whatever else.

      There are 28 pick 3 sums, but they are not equal-even, so we CAN'T say that each should come out about once every 28 draws, the middle sums such as 13 and 14 sums should come out more often than the low sums such as 0 and the high sums such as 27.

      There are very many other patterns and each has their particular Math chances of "winning"

      More soon.

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        Statistical chance has what I have long called "PredictAbility Limits"

        It is simple, for example, we all know that the same pick 3 number straight or boxed won't come out often, draw after draw, that is in (Or is it "On"?) sequence.

        We also know that this, often or perpetual repetition in sequence also won't be or happen for other patterns.

        We also know that it is unlikely that numbers and their patterns will be absent, that is that they won't ever come out, some sometimes or at times will take longer to come out, that is that maybe a somewhat variable percentage of number and patterns will take long to come out, but that most of them or at least maybe half of them will come out more or less close to when they should.

        Most numbers and their patterns should not take way too much longer to come out than they should, nor come out way more often than they should, only some of them.

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        On a given number of draws some numbers and patterns:

        Don't come out.

        Come out only once.

        Come out more than once.

        And this changes little by little as newer draws to come.

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          the study of patterns I think it's good, because the number is and is not in the standard group, mount filters for patterns, it would be great, because there is the probability of leaving a few patterns and other detriments as in numbers, it would be good to create a calculator pattern reduction, eg = stipulates
            the maximum and the minimum value of each group of standard


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            Thanks

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              Some real past draws:

              First, let us look at just 1 draw at a time, from oldest to newest.

              Minnesota (MN) Daily 3

              Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5

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              Fernando's rule # 1:

              As a filter has more than 1 pattern to it there should be a higher chance of a NO repetion Right Away than of a repetition Right Away.

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              Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5 09 Sum 9 LDR 9 Root LLH OOO IOI 4 Lowest to High Width.

              While most patterns should not repeat, there is a chance that 1 or more might, the more patterns that are used.

              Same Rule # 1 as above.

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              Let us look at the very next winning draw:

              Fri, Jan 3, 2014    5-7-5 15 Sum, 5 LDR, 6 Root, HHH, OOO, III and 2 Lowest to High Width.

              It followed Fernando's Rule # 1. Sometimes or often there is None, 1 or a very few repetitions.

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                Thanks

                More to come soon.

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                  the study of patterns I think it's good, because the number is and is not in the standard group, mount filters for patterns, it would be great, because there is the probability of leaving a few patterns and other detriments as in numbers, it would be good to create a calculator pattern reduction, eg = stipulates
                    the maximum and the minimum value of each group of standard

                  Maybe only a Math person can calculate deviations from the "Perfect Math chance" or just look at a program such as Lotsoft that might have some values and from there try to calculate the deviations.

                  For example there are 10 digits for each straight pick 3 position yet in any 10 draws, one or more digits won't come out, one or more will come out just once and one or more will come out more than once.

                  This might or should change in other sections of past draws and as newer winning numbers come out.

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                    Some real past draws:

                    First, let us look at just 1 draw at a time, from oldest to newest.

                    Minnesota (MN) Daily 3

                    Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5

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                    Fernando's rule # 1:

                    As a filter has more than 1 pattern to it there should be a higher chance of a NO repetion Right Away than of a repetition Right Away.

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                    Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5 09 Sum 9 LDR 9 Root LLH OOO IOI 4 Lowest to High Width.

                    While most patterns should not repeat, there is a chance that 1 or more might, the more patterns that are used.

                    Same Rule # 1 as above.

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                    Let us look at the very next winning draw:

                    Fri, Jan 3, 2014    5-7-5 15 Sum, 5 LDR, 6 Root, HHH, OOO, III and 2 Lowest to High Width.

                    It followed Fernando's Rule # 1. Sometimes or often there is None, 1 or a very few repetitions.

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                    More next.

                    For right now I am getting a little tired, so maybe one more post and then will take a break from this and maybe more sometime later.

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                    There was a mistake:

                    Fri, Jan 3, 2014    5-7-5 17 Sum, 7 LDR, 8 Root, HHH, OOO, III and 2 Lowest to High Width.

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                    This was O.K. I think:

                     

                    Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5 09 Sum 9 LDR 9 Root LLH OOO IOI 4 Lowest to High Width.

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                    Fri, Jan 3, 2014    5-7-5
                    Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5

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                    Now the very next winning draw:

                    Sat, Jan 4, 2014    5-0-3 08 Sum, 8 LDR, 8 Root, HLL, OEO, IOI and 5 Lowest to High Width

                    Fernando's Rule # 1 came true again.

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                    This is Fernando, so beware of any possible mistakes.

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                      For right now I am getting a little tired, so maybe one more post and then will take a break from this and maybe more sometime later.

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                      There was a mistake:

                      Fri, Jan 3, 2014    5-7-5 17 Sum, 7 LDR, 8 Root, HHH, OOO, III and 2 Lowest to High Width.

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                      This was O.K. I think:

                       

                      Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5 09 Sum 9 LDR 9 Root LLH OOO IOI 4 Lowest to High Width.

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                      Fri, Jan 3, 2014    5-7-5
                      Thu, Jan 2, 2014    3-1-5

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                      Now the very next winning draw:

                      Sat, Jan 4, 2014    5-0-3 08 Sum, 8 LDR, 8 Root, HLL, OEO, IOI and 5 Lowest to High Width

                      Fernando's Rule # 1 came true again.

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                      This is Fernando, so beware of any possible mistakes.

                      I don't always find my mistakes, if I make any, just so you know.

                      Time to rest, more later.

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                      While most patterns should not repeat, there is a chance that 1 or more might, the more patterns that are used.

                       

                      Rule # 1.

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                        Striaight pick 3 numbers should come out about once every 1000 draws, but of course don't.

                        Boxed singles should maybe (I am not sure) come out once every 166.67 draws.

                        Boxed doubles shuld come out about once every 333.33 draws.

                        As to the patterns it depends on the patterns, for example:

                        There are 10 patterns (digits) on the LDRs (last digit of the sums) so each LDR should come out about once every 10 draws.

                        On the straight Low-High there are 8 patterns should each should come out once every 8 draws, same for the Even-Odd, In-Out, Bala-Nced and whatever else.

                        There are 28 pick 3 sums, but they are not equal-even, so we CAN'T say that each should come out about once every 28 draws, the middle sums such as 13 and 14 sums should come out more often than the low sums such as 0 and the high sums such as 27.

                        There are very many other patterns and each has their particular Math chances of "winning"

                        More soon.

                        'Striaight pick 3 numbers should come out about once every 1000 draws, but of course don't.

                        Boxed singles should maybe (I am not sure) come out once every 166.67 draws......'

                        The question to posed ' how do you translate these statistical parameters into discrete or unique values? ' saying  str8 p 3 numbers will hit in every 1000 draws is ' broad brush' , likewise most statistical parameters like odd, sums, low,even .........etc, their good as percentiles, but does not address Discrete Distribulion.

                         In my opinion, less on parameters , focus should be on the transition of  each digit between events.

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                          Even Math people are wrong, in a way it is more or less kind of true that one event is independent or doesn't have anything to do with anoother event and yet in the Universe everything has to do with everything else, that shows how little we humans know.

                          By that I mean that in practice one draw doesn't have anything to do with another draw, in practice.

                          It is like saying that in practice the Universe is infinite and it is in practice, but the truth it is the the Universe is finite a kind of more or less pocket Universe like a kind of air balloon that heats and cools on and off and as it cools gets smaller and when it heats get bigger so its "wall" moves and or changes, but at any time its volume might more or less be definite, but a volume that is always changing or maybe the volume doesn't change, but the shape or form of the balloon (Universe) changes.

                          Finite, but in a way infinite.

                          So in a way things are not related to each other and in another way everything is related.

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                          But in truth, even if things were not related (And they are related in a very deep Universal sense) statistics relate them, the statistical relations are easily seen on the past draws of the lottery games.

                          That goes to show that Math people don't know everything.

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                          I have no idea if this has or not any relation to what you posted as I didn't understand it.

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                              in practice a draw has nothing to do with another game, but, but think about it, you can use the latest lottery or sweepstakes last until 3
                                to use as a reference or pivot, to filter patterns, then the example last draw was 456, it is expected that the above maximum repeat one or two digits, numca the three digits, but because only then would play again in 67% repeats only one digit, that is good!
                              If you could see the patterns that most or leave late just as is done in numbers and filter by groups of patterns