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# How about a System based on something real ...like Odds maybe?

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Stone Mountain*Georgia
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How about some "Systems" based on anything real..like the actual Odds,Math, and/or Timing etc. ???

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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How about some "Systems" based on anything real..like the actual Odds,Math, and/or Timing etc. ???

Explain yourself young man!

Stone Mountain*Georgia
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Explain yourself young man!

But first ...  LOL

..... Serge I see you are from a town in Belgium called.....  Bananaramadamadam  Belgium.

At first I thought that might be the beginning of the Belgian version of an old  Beach Boys Song.      LOL

Ba ba ba... ba ba baran    You got me rockin and a-rollin
Rockin and a-reelin
Barbara ann ba ba
Ba barbara ann

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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So you saying you don't like systems based on adding +291

Then dividing by 5. And flipping 6s to 9's (after the draw)

The. Rounding up to the nearest 10.  Then using lotto math

Then picking digits from each line vertically????

Let's Go Rangers!!!
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So you saying you don't like systems based on adding +291

Then dividing by 5. And flipping 6s to 9's (after the draw)

The. Rounding up to the nearest 10.  Then using lotto math

Then picking digits from each line vertically????

Vertically?? Oh man, I was going diagonally. No wonder I can't hit!!!

"You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

Stone Mountain*Georgia
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So you saying you don't like systems based on adding +291

Then dividing by 5. And flipping 6s to 9's (after the draw)

The. Rounding up to the nearest 10.  Then using lotto math

Then picking digits from each line vertically????

MMMMM........ LOL

Good one  Ilovecash3 ........       Wouldn't it be funny if that stuff works in tonight's draw.

We could start a whole new  Lottery Religion  based on that .... big Lottery Church and all.

Only 29.95.....  Plus S&H       LOL

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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MMMMM........ LOL

Good one  Ilovecash3 ........       Wouldn't it be funny if that stuff works in tonight's draw.

We could start a whole new  Lottery Religion  based on that .... big Lottery Church and all.

Only 29.95.....  Plus S&H       LOL

love to nibble those micey feet.

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 Posted: March 16, 2014, 5:00 pm - IP Logged

It's really hard to overcome the 50% edge that the house has just using pure math/stats/probability.  At least playing in retails store.  Online play you have a chance not only because of the higher payouts but you can play the game that is most favorable at that particular point in time.

Assuming Pick 3, straight play, at retail store, then your first filter needs to eliminate 750 combinations with degree of certainity 50% just to break even.

The next logical choice then is to track trends and their median values but that is a very long involved discussion and you need specialized software to track the relevant trends.

Jimmy

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It's really hard to overcome the 50% edge that the house has just using pure math/stats/probability.  At least playing in retails store.  Online play you have a chance not only because of the higher payouts but you can play the game that is most favorable at that particular point in time.

Assuming Pick 3, straight play, at retail store, then your first filter needs to eliminate 750 combinations with degree of certainity 50% just to break even.

The next logical choice then is to track trends and their median values but that is a very long involved discussion and you need specialized software to track the relevant trends.

Jimmy

HI Jimmy. I like your post a lot and certainly agree about the complex trends tracking software you mentioned.

Perhaps the filter order .....of eliminating 750 combo's at a 50% DC could be morphed.

There has to be several more almost perfect opportunistic targets......or timing targets out there.

New specialized trends software should be coming that's capable of spotting those. Those rare blue moon probability targets that do come along and  (checking all States) similar to those we are aware and can track currently.

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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 Posted: March 16, 2014, 7:59 pm - IP Logged

I have been stuck on the digits 0, 1, 8, 9 for the last week.

Here is a picture of the last 100 Georgia Combined draws (due to screen limitations you only see 50) sorted by box draw.

Georgia Combined

You can see that a 0, 1 occured as a digit in 50% of the draws.  Which is what we expect.

If I had sorted in reverse you would see that 8 or 9 occurred as a digit in 50% of the draws.

I believe 85% of the draws had a 0, 1, 8, 9 in them.  Which implies that only 15% had a draw made up only of digits 2 thru 7.

It feels like based on this information if I had software to randomly generate 6 box sets I would want the mix to be something like the following:

where x represents {0,1,8,9} and y represents {2,3,4,5,6,7}

1. 0yy
2. 1yy
3. yy8
4. yy9
5. xyx
6. yyy

It seems like if your not playing the digits 0,1,8,9 in your combos you are playing a losing game.

Ultimately I think the answer if it exists lies in trends, median values, triggers, and the periodic frequency of the cycle.

I think I am going to take a break from the math side and try a random solution in writing some software to calulcate the optimum travelers for a particular state.

Jimmy

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It's really hard to overcome the 50% edge that the house has just using pure math/stats/probability.  At least playing in retails store.  Online play you have a chance not only because of the higher payouts but you can play the game that is most favorable at that particular point in time.

Assuming Pick 3, straight play, at retail store, then your first filter needs to eliminate 750 combinations with degree of certainity 50% just to break even.

The next logical choice then is to track trends and their median values but that is a very long involved discussion and you need specialized software to track the relevant trends.

Jimmy

If you filter out 2 digits for each straight position, you filter out almost 1/2 of the total straight pick 3 numbers.

That can be done, but maybe not 100% of the time.

More filtration is possible.

This is a very old straight pick 3 prediction that I made:

I wasn't too bad a predictor years ago, but for the most part I left the lottery alone many years ago, so at present I can no longer predict.

I AM GONE, FOR A WHILE.

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If you filter out 2 digits for each straight position, you filter out almost 1/2 of the total straight pick 3 numbers.

That can be done, but maybe not 100% of the time.

More filtration is possible.

This is a very old straight pick 3 prediction that I made:

I wasn't too bad a predictor years ago, but for the most part I left the lottery alone many years ago, so at present I can no longer predict.

Omg. Weve pulled the Master out of retirement

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Omg. Weve pulled the Master out of retirement

Not really that was a very old prediction, but it did get the winning pick 3 number 5 times on it, once straight and four times boxed.

I could come back, but I go crazy thinking about the numbers 24 hours a day every day, like back on those days, I can't predict anymore, but I am now at peace, if I predict again it would have to be with a semi-automatic prediction technique, that is software will help with the predictions, it is possible to use prediction software to help, that is how I once made digits predictions on the pick 3 forum for longer than 2 months.

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I AM GONE, FOR A WHILE.

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Back on those days accurate predictions came a lot easier, that happens when you think about the lottery-game-numbers-predictions all of the time day and night and even dream about that all:

For another example:

I was good, Wasn't I?

I AM GONE, FOR A WHILE.

Stone Mountain*Georgia
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 Posted: March 17, 2014, 4:43 pm - IP Logged

I have been stuck on the digits 0, 1, 8, 9 for the last week.

Here is a picture of the last 100 Georgia Combined draws (due to screen limitations you only see 50) sorted by box draw.

Georgia Combined

You can see that a 0, 1 occured as a digit in 50% of the draws.  Which is what we expect.

If I had sorted in reverse you would see that 8 or 9 occurred as a digit in 50% of the draws.

I believe 85% of the draws had a 0, 1, 8, 9 in them.  Which implies that only 15% had a draw made up only of digits 2 thru 7.

It feels like based on this information if I had software to randomly generate 6 box sets I would want the mix to be something like the following:

where x represents {0,1,8,9} and y represents {2,3,4,5,6,7}

1. 0yy
2. 1yy
3. yy8
4. yy9
5. xyx
6. yyy

It seems like if your not playing the digits 0,1,8,9 in your combos you are playing a losing game.

Ultimately I think the answer if it exists lies in trends, median values, triggers, and the periodic frequency of the cycle.

I think I am going to take a break from the math side and try a random solution in writing some software to calulcate the optimum travelers for a particular state.

Jimmy

Check out the interesting trend for Ga eve tonight Jimmy. In this case Combined draws. Mid/Eve

As you know any 2 digit continuous string contains 488 straights....... so with that in mind. The same 488 str. number group has hit COMBINED for the past 12 draws in a row.

It's the digit1,3 group of 488 straights.

So, it's a good idea to flip over tonight to the Almost other half (512) right?  Yeap.  The non-1,3 chart of 512 straights.  Head/Tails flipping the same side 12 times in a  in a row is almost always Flip back time

Nice fat filter to start off with huh? Filtering out 488 straights.

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Now then ......in that same vein.

There has been a Negative String of 2 digits also.

The 2,6 string hasnot hit in 12 continous Draws! So, playing only the 2,6 digit string or as a plus + Adding Filter for this evening seems good.

512 group... /digits 1,3, cut out.

000, 002, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009, 020, 022, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 040, 042, 044, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049, 050, 052, 054, 055, 056, 057, 058, 059, 060, 062, 064, 065, 066, 067, 068, 069, 070, 072, 074, 075, 076, 077, 078, 079, 080, 082, 084, 085, 086, 087, 088, 089, 090, 092, 094, 095, 096, 097, 098, 099, 200, 202, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 220, 222, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 240, 242, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 252, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 260, 262, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 272, 274, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280, 282, 284, 285, 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 292, 294, 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 400, 402, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 420, 422, 424, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 440, 442, 444, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449, 450, 452, 454, 455, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 462, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 470, 472, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 479, 480, 482, 484, 485, 486, 487, 488, 489, 490, 492, 494, 495, 496, 497, 498, 499, 500, 502, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 509, 520, 522, 524, 525, 526, 527, 528, 529, 540, 542, 544, 545, 546, 547, 548, 549, 550, 552, 554, 555, 556, 557, 558, 559, 560, 562, 564, 565, 566, 567, 568, 569, 570, 572, 574, 575, 576, 577, 578, 579, 580, 582, 584, 585, 586, 587, 588, 589, 590, 592, 594, 595, 596, 597, 598, 599, 600, 602, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 620, 622, 624, 625, 626, 627, 628, 629, 640, 642, 644, 645, 646, 647, 648, 649, 650, 652, 654, 655, 656, 657, 658, 659, 660, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 668, 669, 670, 672, 674, 675, 676, 677, 678, 679, 680, 682, 684, 685, 686, 687, 688, 689, 690, 692, 694, 695, 696, 697, 698, 699, 700, 702, 704, 705, 706, 707, 708, 709, 720, 722, 724, 725, 726, 727, 728, 729, 740, 742, 744, 745, 746, 747, 748, 749, 750, 752, 754, 755, 756, 757, 758, 759, 760, 762, 764, 765, 766, 767, 768, 769, 770, 772, 774, 775, 776, 777, 778, 779, 780, 782, 784, 785, 786, 787, 788, 789, 790, 792, 794, 795, 796, 797, 798, 799, 800, 802, 804, 805, 806, 807, 808, 809, 820, 822, 824, 825, 826, 827, 828, 829, 840, 842, 844, 845, 846, 847, 848, 849, 850, 852, 854, 855, 856, 857, 858, 859, 860, 862, 864, 865, 866, 867, 868, 869, 870, 872, 874, 875, 876, 877, 878, 879, 880, 882, 884, 885, 886, 887, 888, 889, 890, 892, 894, 895, 896, 897, 898, 899, 900, 902, 904, 905, 906, 907, 908, 909, 920, 922, 924, 925, 926, 927, 928, 929, 940, 942, 944, 945, 946, 947, 948, 949, 950, 952, 954, 955, 956, 957, 958, 959, 960, 962, 964, 965, 966, 967, 968, 969, 970, 972, 974, 975, 976, 977, 978, 979, 980, 982, 984, 985, 986, 987, 988, 989, 990, 992, 994, 995, 996, 997, 998, 999,

Now....filtering out all but the Digits 2,,and 6 group of the Above. Leaving us 296 straights.

002, 006, 020, 022, 024, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 042, 046, 052, 056, 060, 062, 064, 065, 066, 067, 068, 069, 072, 076, 082, 086, 092, 096, 200, 202, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 220, 222, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 240, 242, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 252, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 260, 262, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 272, 274, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280, 282, 284, 285, 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 292, 294, 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 402, 406, 420, 422, 424, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 442, 446, 452, 456, 460, 462, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 472, 476, 482, 486, 492, 496, 502, 506, 520, 522, 524, 525, 526, 527, 528, 529, 542, 546, 552, 556, 560, 562, 564, 565, 566, 567, 568, 569, 572, 576, 582, 586, 592, 596, 600, 602, 604, 605, 606, 607, 608, 609, 620, 622, 624, 625, 626, 627, 628, 629, 640, 642, 644, 645, 646, 647, 648, 649, 650, 652, 654, 655, 656, 657, 658, 659, 660, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 668, 669, 670, 672, 674, 675, 676, 677, 678, 679, 680, 682, 684, 685, 686, 687, 688, 689, 690, 692, 694, 695, 696, 697, 698, 699, 702, 706, 720, 722, 724, 725, 726, 727, 728, 729, 742, 746, 752, 756, 760, 762, 764, 765, 766, 767, 768, 769, 772, 776, 782, 786, 792, 796, 802, 806, 820, 822, 824, 825, 826, 827, 828, 829, 842, 846, 852, 856, 860, 862, 864, 865, 866, 867, 868, 869, 872, 876, 882, 886, 892, 896, 902, 906, 920, 922, 924, 925, 926, 927, 928, 929, 942, 946, 952, 956, 960, 962, 964, 965, 966, 967, 968, 969, 972, 976, 982, 986, 992, 996

The only real failure .....is the failure to try.

Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much.

Odds never change .....but probability does.

Win d

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