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Tracking sums, pairs, root sums

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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: April 15, 2014, 12:37 pm - IP Logged

me too - pairs is really where I struggle a bit right now! :)  look forward to it - I'll bring the wine Razz

We will go more into pairs, caught a nasty bug, not feeling well today.

Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

For a lead role in a cage?

 

                                            From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

    glowinggal's avatar - 2cwpndk
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    Posted: April 15, 2014, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

    We will go more into pairs, caught a nasty bug, not feeling well today.

    oh no - it's that time of year - spring seems to be a time my kids get sick pretty often.

      sully16's avatar - sharan
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      oh no - it's that time of year - spring seems to be a time my kids get sick pretty often.

      I spent the weekend with Boy Scouts, I am sure I seen several sniffles.

      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

      For a lead role in a cage?

       

                                                  From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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        Posted: April 15, 2014, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

        Sully16 VA finally gets sum 14 & I bombed. Had it in all last week and even yesterday.  Played the 55 pair front and back and these 551-552-555-558...wanh wanh

          sully16's avatar - sharan
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          Posted: April 15, 2014, 10:32 pm - IP Logged

          Sully16 VA finally gets sum 14 & I bombed. Had it in all last week and even yesterday.  Played the 55 pair front and back and these 551-552-555-558...wanh wanh

          arrrrrgh,

          Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

          For a lead role in a cage?

           

                                                      From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

            sully16's avatar - sharan
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            Posted: April 16, 2014, 8:48 am - IP Logged

            From our list we see missing pairs are --27 33 44 58

            we also see pairs out once 00 03 06 11 19 29 77 78 88

            Here's your starting pairs to consider

            I would jot these down on my pairs chart somewhere on the left hand side,

            we already know 03 and 06 have been out, hopefully you have highlighted them and brought them down, I think we could still see those pairs.

            Something else that caught my eye, pair 44 not out and 4 was one of the hot numbers.

            Now because of the sums and root sums, I would jot down a little list of numbers I think might show

            443 433 308 119 129 588 278 245 236 001 523 527 548

            Why did I pick 245 236 523 ? those pairs are not in our list.

            245, because it's sum 11 and the 25 pair only had 2

            236, again sum 11 and 3 is heating up with hot number 6

            523. root sum 1 and again the 25.

            I've done a recrunch of NY, Before I post all the data, I want to bring something to your attention.

            See our list of missing pairs, 27-33-44-58

            Using only april data

            the 27 pair has been out 2 times

            33 has been out once

            44 has been out once

            58 has been out 5 times.

            This is why we keep our missing pairs handy, you can capitalize on a missing pair.

            Pairs out once

            00 has been out once

            03 has been out 3 times

            06 out once

            11 out once

            19--not out yet, keep this pair on your list, if it goes hot, if the digits 1 or 9 start popping like crazy, they will eventually go together.

            29- out twice--297-293, let's keep 219 719 913 on our radar

            77- out once

            78- out once

            88, not out

            Now we have a new list for pairs not out in April, we will keep 19 and 88 at the top of our missing list.

            I jot things down, that's how I keep track of due pairs, some use spread sheets.

             

            I have a whole ton of reposting the updated charts, but as many of you know I went camping this weekend, and now I think I have strep throat, so guess who's going to the dr. today.

            I want to leave you with one thought, today in Mich, I like 2 sums. 7 and 11, am also looking for pair 21, so I will play 214 and 218 as my best picks and the rest of the 21 pairs as my 50 cent box picks.

            Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

            For a lead role in a cage?

             

                                                        From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

              sully16's avatar - sharan
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              Posted: April 16, 2014, 10:53 pm - IP Logged

              Here's the sum chart for NY, this is all the April draws, all 16 midday and evening are here.

              I also call this the distribution chart

              0-

              1-

              2-

              3-

              4- Notice all these missing sums

              5-032

              6-

              7- 304 502

              8-152

              9- 261 036 009 072

              10-523 811

              11-425

              12-183

              13-634

              14-626 293 734 365

              15-852 078 933

              16-844

              17-485

              18-396 576 297 369 558

              19-685 856

              20-

              21-975

              22-

              23-977

              24-969

              25-

              26-

              27-

              Not all of these sums are going to come out, but the fact that sums 1-6 only have one draw, I would consider them when looking for a certain root sum.

              Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

              For a lead role in a cage?

               

                                                          From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                sully16's avatar - sharan
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                Posted: April 17, 2014, 12:08 am - IP Logged

                Here's a updated list of missing sums

                19-88 from March

                Missing in April

                01 14 17 22 49 89

                Hot numbers

                5-2-6-3-8-9

                cold

                0-7-4-1

                Because I have your updated root sum tracking and I happen to know your short sum due, we can start predicting.

                 

                by the way your due root is 4 and your due short sum is 3, what does that tell us

                Root sum 4, sums 4-13-22

                Short sum 3, 3-13 23

                Now we have 13 in common, but we also have missing sums 3 and 4 and 22

                 

                Where do we begin, the last 2 draws-734 and 365

                Do you think you'll see a one digit return, or even a 2 digit return?

                Our next question is what digit is due, I think 1, but we all have different thoughts, I am just trying to relay to you my thought process, like today, I told you I liked sum 7, but pair 21, sum 7 fell, but it was 304, arrrrgh.

                Had I played all sum 7, I would have had a box hit.

                So you have to decide

                Do you hone in on one sum?

                Do you hone in on a pair?

                Do you consider the root sum?

                This is where you start to teach yourself how to pick, all I can do is give my thought process.

                So, with that being said, I like digit 1 to show,

                We know from our missing pairs, 01 14 17 and the 19 is due.

                So, let's make a list with these that match our due root sum 4 and sums 4 -13

                103 148 157 193, this would be my consideration with digit 1

                Because we are looking for root 4, that also includes sum 22

                Missing pairs 88 and 89 and 49

                so I would write down 886, 895 499

                Because I really like 1 to show, how about a double, 112, sum 4 root sum 4

                What else do I know, 58 is hot, how about 508, I know 05 and 08 have only been out once, why not throw hot in there, not just missing stuff.

                If you track the numbers the way I described, then these are the things you look for and have at your fingertips.

                 

                We now have 9 picks, most of you know I keep my picks to 10 unless I am playing just sums, then we have more.

                Because, pair 19 is so due, I may at this point consider other sums, 119 and 129, sum 11 and 12, because they have only been out once.

                Here's my play list

                103 148 157 193 886 895 499 112 508 119 129

                Now , I'm not done, looking at my missing pairs, I see 14 and 17, could 147 be due, we need sum 12

                Or how about 149 179?

                now we have 103 148 157 193 886 895 499 112 508 119 129 147 149 179

                 

                That's 14 picks now, so, I want to reduce this, I will actually run these through search past results, I will give you my thoughts on each number, why I would keep, why I would discard.

                This is where you biggest decision is, that's why you need to get a feel for your numbers.

                Do I win everyday?, Nope sure don't,

                Do I make mistakes ?, all the time., sum 7 is biting me right now.

                Is it important to practice on paper before you spend your money ?, sure is...I would practice until you become consistant.

                If you don't have a good feeling about your picks, don't play, the numbers are not going anywhere.

                Be back with the results.

                Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                For a lead role in a cage?

                 

                                                            From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                  sully16's avatar - sharan
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                  Posted: April 17, 2014, 1:39 am - IP Logged

                  I have done a search past results, I went back 2 years.

                  I was looking for frequency, the last time it was out and how it has been falling.

                  My results

                  103- keeper, only out twice last year

                  148- discard, fell twice in  March

                  157- keep

                  193- keep

                  886- not out since sept.2013--but discard, for the 88 pairs, like 808 818 858, but not this minute.

                  895- overloaded from 2013-dicard

                  499- discard

                  112- out once in 2013--

                  508-, not out since oct.2013..Is now a favorite pick

                  119- not out this year-keep

                  129- keep, not out since dec, 2013

                  147- even though it has fallen, it was way under average for 2012 and 2013

                  149- keep, we could see sum 14 fall three times in a row,

                  179- keep, like it as 971

                  Summary

                  103 175 193  112 508 119 129 147 149 971

                  Here's my 10 picks for the next 4 draws.

                  Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                  For a lead role in a cage?

                   

                                                              From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                    I have done a search past results, I went back 2 years.

                    I was looking for frequency, the last time it was out and how it has been falling.

                    My results

                    103- keeper, only out twice last year

                    148- discard, fell twice in  March

                    157- keep

                    193- keep

                    886- not out since sept.2013--but discard, for the 88 pairs, like 808 818 858, but not this minute.

                    895- overloaded from 2013-dicard

                    499- discard

                    112- out once in 2013--

                    508-, not out since oct.2013..Is now a favorite pick

                    119- not out this year-keep

                    129- keep, not out since dec, 2013

                    147- even though it has fallen, it was way under average for 2012 and 2013

                    149- keep, we could see sum 14 fall three times in a row,

                    179- keep, like it as 971

                    Summary

                    103 175 193  112 508 119 129 147 149 971

                    Here's my 10 picks for the next 4 draws.

                    This is a great example for New York.  I am really enjoying learning this material and I'm going to call my best friend in New York to see if I can help her land a good hit! Thanks sully16

                      sully16's avatar - sharan
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                      Posted: April 17, 2014, 8:46 am - IP Logged

                      Virginia last 30 draws

                      LLL- under average

                      EEE- also under average

                      missing sums

                      1-2 3 4 5 6   (14) 23 24 25 26 27

                      sum 14 smack dab in the middle of the bell curve,

                      Root sums

                      1-2

                      2-4

                      3-4

                      4-3

                      5- missing, expect a pop, sums 5-14-23 all missing sums

                      6-4

                      7-3

                      8-4

                      9-6

                      Missing pairs

                      00 02 04 14 22 27 33 35 44 45 46 47 66 77 88

                      pairs out once

                      01 05 07 12 13 16 25 26 28 36 37 48 58 68 69 78 99

                      Last sum digit

                       

                      0-3

                      1-3

                      2-4

                      3-2

                      4- missing, sum 14 looking real good. as well as sum 4 ---004 has been traveling

                      5-4

                      6-2

                      7-3

                      8-5

                      9-4

                      numbers cold to hot

                      4 2 7 6 0 5 1 3 8 9

                      Here's an updated Virginia sums chart

                      1-100

                      2-

                      3-

                      4-

                      5-221

                      6-

                      7-115 511

                      8- 323 611

                      9-216 153

                      10-811 307

                      11-065 038

                      12-390 183 714

                      13-940 832 715

                      14-545

                      15-609 582 591 294 483 159

                      16-439 682 259

                      17-179 647

                      18-837

                      19-

                      20-

                      21-

                      22-

                      23-977

                      24-

                      25-

                      26-

                      27-

                      Comparing the last set of data, I see sum 14 is still stuck in the mud. sums 19-27 almost non-existant                     pairs  still missing 02 27 44 66 88

                      Pairs missing in april 36 99

                      Real short list, everything seems to be coming out even, this is going to be tricky

                      Because I know your next root sum is 1, we will concentrate on sum 19.

                      199 289 379 388 469 478 559 568 577 667

                      I am going to search past results, and decide on keep or discard.

                      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                      For a lead role in a cage?

                       

                                                                  From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                        sully16's avatar - sharan
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                        Posted: April 17, 2014, 9:05 am - IP Logged

                        Here's what I did, I went into inspect 3 for midday and evening Virginia, I inspected the last 30 draws for both, What I see has changed my thinking a little, sum 19 has been hot and heavy,

                        I have already discarded 559 757 649 397

                        I also see sum 14 still short and sum 10-root sum 1- taaa daa

                        For sum 19 we will keep 289

                        For sum 10 - 802 and 316-2 digit return

                        For sum 14- 275 365 446 626- hot pairs 28, so 248

                        Here's a list 289 802 316 275 365 446 626 248

                        adding another hot pair 14 and 15

                        415 just added and 23, so 235

                        Play list

                        289 802 316 275 365 446 626 248 415 235

                        3 draws, let's see what happens.

                        Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                        For a lead role in a cage?

                         

                                                                    From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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                          Here's what I did, I went into inspect 3 for midday and evening Virginia, I inspected the last 30 draws for both, What I see has changed my thinking a little, sum 19 has been hot and heavy,

                          I have already discarded 559 757 649 397

                          I also see sum 14 still short and sum 10-root sum 1- taaa daa

                          For sum 19 we will keep 289

                          For sum 10 - 802 and 316-2 digit return

                          For sum 14- 275 365 446 626- hot pairs 28, so 248

                          Here's a list 289 802 316 275 365 446 626 248

                          adding another hot pair 14 and 15

                          415 just added and 23, so 235

                          Play list

                          289 802 316 275 365 446 626 248 415 235

                          3 draws, let's see what happens.

                          More awesomeness...thanks a million.  Looking forward to winning big so I can help someone in need! Good luck to all


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                            More awesomeness...thanks a million.  Looking forward to winning big so I can help someone in need! Good luck to all

                            Goodluck

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                              Posted: April 17, 2014, 6:10 pm - IP Logged

                              root   sums  are  a   mirror for   sums.  so  relly  u  dont  have  to  track  root  sums

                                 
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