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Fun with Pick 3 Pair Sums

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Tialuvslotto's avatar - Jailin
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Posted: September 18, 2014, 4:12 pm - IP Logged

Recently I read a post that referred to the sums of pairs, an idea that I had not previously considered. So I set up a spreadsheet so that I could play around with the concept, and I’m glad I did.

I summed each of the 55 pairs in the Pick 3 game and then grouped the pairs by the Last Digit of the Pair Sum. For example, pair ‘56’ sums to 11, so it went into group 1, Pair ‘77’ sums to 14 so I put it in group 4.  Root sums would also work, but I like LDS.

This gives 10 groups of pairs with LDS 0-9. Once I started playing around with these groups I noticed some really interesting characteristics.

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-the even sums of pair groups each have 6 pairs: 2 doubles, 2 odd pairs and 2 even pairs

-theodd sum of pair groups each have 5 pairs: 1 mirror pair, 2 consecutive pairs and 2 “ghost” pairs (one even digit, one odd digit)

Although the even numbered groups have more combinations, all groups hit at the same rate – since doubles hit less often.

-Looking at the Even/Odd combinations of these groups, there are only 2 possible configurations: EEE and OOE. 75% of the time you will get OOE,that is 2 Odd-numbered pair groups and 1 even-numbered pair group.  25% of the time you will get 3 Even-numbered pair groups.  No other configuration of E/O is possible – go ahead, give it a try!

-About half the time when a double is drawn it will be EEE (3 even or odd digits e.g. 266, 799), and the other half of the doubles will be OOE (a mixture of even and odd, e.g. 223, 558).

Unmatched numbers with the EEE configuration show up about 12% of the time, and are always all even or all odd combinations such as 157 or 246.

Doubles will have only 2 sum groups but unmatched will ALWAYS have 3 different sum groups.

The arrangements of High and Low sums are much more in line with what we expect:

HHH 11.5%

HHL 38.5%

LLH 38.5%

LLL 11.5%

About 60% of the time there will be at least one repeat group from one game to the next, with most of these (45%) being 1 repeat group.

The pair sum groups have a median skip of 2, so there are few long out streaks, with most streaks resolving after 7-15 outs.

Now, this is not a system, but it seems that with all these quirks it has potential as the basis of a system.

Any ideas?

"There is no such thing as luck; only adequate or inadequate preparation to cope with a statistical universe."

~Robert A. Heinlein

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    Recently I read a post that referred to the sums of pairs, an idea that I had not previously considered. So I set up a spreadsheet so that I could play around with the concept, and I’m glad I did.

    I summed each of the 55 pairs in the Pick 3 game and then grouped the pairs by the Last Digit of the Pair Sum. For example, pair ‘56’ sums to 11, so it went into group 1, Pair ‘77’ sums to 14 so I put it in group 4.  Root sums would also work, but I like LDS.

    This gives 10 groups of pairs with LDS 0-9. Once I started playing around with these groups I noticed some really interesting characteristics.

    0

    00

    19

    28

    37

    46

    55

    1

    01

    29

    38

    47

    56

    2

    02

    11

    39

    48

    57

    66

    3

    03

    12

    49

    58

    67

    4

    04

    13

    22

    59

    68

    77

    5

    05

    14

    23

    69

    78

    6

    06

    15

    24

    33

    79

    88

    7

    07

    16

    25

    34

    89

    8

    08

    17

    26

    35

    44

    99

    9

    09

    18

    27

    36

    45

     

    -the even sums of pair groups each have 6 pairs: 2 doubles, 2 odd pairs and 2 even pairs

    -theodd sum of pair groups each have 5 pairs: 1 mirror pair, 2 consecutive pairs and 2 “ghost” pairs (one even digit, one odd digit)

    Although the even numbered groups have more combinations, all groups hit at the same rate – since doubles hit less often.

    -Looking at the Even/Odd combinations of these groups, there are only 2 possible configurations: EEE and OOE. 75% of the time you will get OOE,that is 2 Odd-numbered pair groups and 1 even-numbered pair group.  25% of the time you will get 3 Even-numbered pair groups.  No other configuration of E/O is possible – go ahead, give it a try!

    -About half the time when a double is drawn it will be EEE (3 even or odd digits e.g. 266, 799), and the other half of the doubles will be OOE (a mixture of even and odd, e.g. 223, 558).

    Unmatched numbers with the EEE configuration show up about 12% of the time, and are always all even or all odd combinations such as 157 or 246.

    Doubles will have only 2 sum groups but unmatched will ALWAYS have 3 different sum groups.

    The arrangements of High and Low sums are much more in line with what we expect:

    HHH 11.5%

    HHL 38.5%

    LLH 38.5%

    LLL 11.5%

    About 60% of the time there will be at least one repeat group from one game to the next, with most of these (45%) being 1 repeat group.

    The pair sum groups have a median skip of 2, so there are few long out streaks, with most streaks resolving after 7-15 outs.

    Now, this is not a system, but it seems that with all these quirks it has potential as the basis of a system.

    Any ideas?

     Deeply cool....and very well done Tialuvslotto.

     Yes it does indeed have a good basis potential for a system as well as another "divide and conquer" tool. 

     Most filters stay pretty calm most of the time. Best to keep thermometers in their little mouths anyway. LOL One more is good.  The more alerts the better. 

     

     

    The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                  Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                  Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                           Win d    

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      Anything for Kentucky tonight please Win D

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        Anything for Kentucky tonight please Win D

        Sure.....If I see anything. I'll post it in the same place as last time we won. The Kentucky forum. Only this time don't run away and never respond back. 

        This is the Systems forum and I'm afraid Tia will get mad at us posting individual State's info here and interrupting her subjects. Not polite right?

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

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          VIRGINIA

          PAIR SET 5 IS MIA 12 DRAWS

           

          Pair Set 2 Out  0 : 02 11 39 48 57 66
          Pair Set 6 Out  0 : 06 15 24 33 79 88
          Pair Set 3 Out  1 : 03 12 49 58 67
          Pair Set 7 Out  1 : 07 16 25 34 89
          Pair Set 1 Out  2 : 01 29 38 47 56
          Pair Set 4 Out  2 : 04 13 22 59 68 77
          Pair Set 8 Out  3 : 08 17 26 35 44 99
          Pair Set 0 Out  4 : 00 19 28 37 46 55
          Pair Set 9 Out  4 : 09 18 27 36 45
          Pair Set 5 Out 12 : 05 14 23 69 78  ((( 058 148 238 / 283 )))  / 055 057 078 123 124 146 169 234 238 269 278 569 689 Total: 13

          # 0    393    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
          # 0    393    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
          # 1    349    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
          # 1    349    3    03 12 49 58 67
          # 1    349    7    07 16 25 34 89
          # 2    074    1    01 29 38 47 56
          # 2    074    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
          # 2    074    7    07 16 25 34 89
          # 3    068    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
          # 3    068    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
          # 3    068    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
          # 4    109    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
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          # 5    079    7    07 16 25 34 89
          # 5    079    9    09 18 27 36 45
          # 6    921    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
          # 6    921    1    01 29 38 47 56
          # 6    921    3    03 12 49 58 67
          # 7    615    1    01 29 38 47 56
          # 7    615    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
          # 7    615    7    07 16 25 34 89
          # 8    494    3    03 12 49 58 67
          # 8    494    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
          # 9    746    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
          # 9    746    1    01 29 38 47 56
          # 9    746    3    03 12 49 58 67
          #10    757    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
          #10    757    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
          #11    864    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
          #11    864    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
          #11    864    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
          #12    837    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
          #12    837    1    01 29 38 47 56
          #12    837    5    05 14 23 69 78
          #13    499    3    03 12 49 58 67
          #13    499    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
          #14    746    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
          #14    746    1    01 29 38 47 56
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          #16    918    9    09 18 27 36 45
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          #18    985    7    07 16 25 34 89
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          #23    881    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
          #23    881    9    09 18 27 36 45
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          #27    987    7    07 16 25 34 89
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          #30    788    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
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          #31    890    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
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          #32    897    7    07 16 25 34 89
          #33    125    3    03 12 49 58 67
          #33    125    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
          #33    125    7    07 16 25 34 89
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            Tialuvslotto's avatar - Jailin
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            Posted: September 19, 2014, 6:37 am - IP Logged

            VIRGINIA

            PAIR SET 5 IS MIA 12 DRAWS

             

            Pair Set 2 Out  0 : 02 11 39 48 57 66
            Pair Set 6 Out  0 : 06 15 24 33 79 88
            Pair Set 3 Out  1 : 03 12 49 58 67
            Pair Set 7 Out  1 : 07 16 25 34 89
            Pair Set 1 Out  2 : 01 29 38 47 56
            Pair Set 4 Out  2 : 04 13 22 59 68 77
            Pair Set 8 Out  3 : 08 17 26 35 44 99
            Pair Set 0 Out  4 : 00 19 28 37 46 55
            Pair Set 9 Out  4 : 09 18 27 36 45
            Pair Set 5 Out 12 : 05 14 23 69 78  ((( 058 148 238 / 283 )))  / 055 057 078 123 124 146 169 234 238 269 278 569 689 Total: 13

            # 0    393    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            # 0    393    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            # 1    349    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            # 1    349    3    03 12 49 58 67
            # 1    349    7    07 16 25 34 89
            # 2    074    1    01 29 38 47 56
            # 2    074    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            # 2    074    7    07 16 25 34 89
            # 3    068    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            # 3    068    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            # 3    068    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            # 4    109    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            # 4    109    1    01 29 38 47 56
            # 4    109    9    09 18 27 36 45
            # 5    079    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            # 5    079    7    07 16 25 34 89
            # 5    079    9    09 18 27 36 45
            # 6    921    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            # 6    921    1    01 29 38 47 56
            # 6    921    3    03 12 49 58 67
            # 7    615    1    01 29 38 47 56
            # 7    615    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            # 7    615    7    07 16 25 34 89
            # 8    494    3    03 12 49 58 67
            # 8    494    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            # 9    746    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            # 9    746    1    01 29 38 47 56
            # 9    746    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #10    757    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #10    757    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #11    864    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #11    864    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #11    864    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #12    837    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #12    837    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #12    837    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #13    499    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #13    499    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #14    746    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #14    746    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #14    746    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #15    108    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #15    108    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #15    108    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #16    918    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #16    918    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #16    918    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #17    532    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #17    532    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #17    532    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #18    985    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #18    985    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #18    985    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #19    329    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #19    329    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #19    329    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #20    657    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #20    657    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #20    657    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #21    756    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #21    756    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #21    756    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #22    413    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #22    413    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #22    413    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #23    881    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #23    881    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #24    739    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #24    739    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #24    739    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #25    306    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #25    306    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #25    306    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #26    363    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #26    363    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #27    987    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #27    987    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #27    987    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #28    919    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #28    919    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #29    459    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #29    459    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #29    459    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #30    788    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #30    788    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #31    890    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #31    890    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #31    890    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #32    897    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #32    897    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #32    897    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #33    125    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #33    125    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #33    125    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #34    727    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #34    727    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #35    545    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #35    545    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #36    668    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #36    668    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #37    506    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #37    506    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #37    506    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #38    955    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #38    955    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #39    445    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #39    445    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #40    492    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #40    492    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #40    492    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #41    765    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #41    765    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #41    765    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #42    650    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #42    650    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #42    650    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #43    641    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #43    641    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #43    641    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #44    758    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #44    758    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #44    758    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #45    901    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #45    901    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #45    901    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #46    883    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #46    883    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #47    338    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #47    338    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #48    382    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #48    382    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #48    382    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #49    769    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #49    769    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #49    769    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #50    745    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #50    745    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #50    745    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #51    806    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #51    806    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #51    806    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #52    107    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #52    107    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #52    107    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #53    566    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #53    566    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #54    906    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #54    906    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #54    906    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #55    023    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #55    023    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #55    023    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #56    340    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #56    340    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #56    340    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #57    702    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #57    702    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #57    702    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #58    354    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #58    354    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #58    354    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #59    567    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #59    567    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #59    567    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #60    434    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #60    434    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #61    781    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #61    781    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #61    781    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #62    164    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #62    164    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #62    164    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #63    594    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #63    594    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #63    594    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #64    075    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #64    075    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #64    075    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #65    639    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #65    639    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #65    639    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #66    987    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #66    987    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #66    987    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #67    711    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #67    711    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #68    679    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #68    679    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #68    679    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #69    192    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #69    192    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #69    192    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #70    629    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #70    629    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #70    629    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #71    410    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #71    410    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #71    410    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #72    493    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #72    493    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #72    493    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #73    624    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #73    624    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #73    624    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #74    923    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #74    923    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #74    923    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #75    861    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #75    861    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #75    861    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #76    411    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #76    411    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #77    978    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #77    978    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #77    978    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #78    545    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #78    545    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #79    741    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #79    741    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #79    741    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #80    336    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #80    336    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #81    577    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #81    577    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #82    385    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #82    385    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #82    385    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #83    153    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #83    153    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #83    153    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #84    141    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #84    141    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #85    226    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #85    226    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #86    475    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #86    475    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #86    475    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #87    599    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #87    599    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #88    055    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #88    055    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #89    394    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #89    394    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #89    394    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #90    307    0    00 19 28 37 46 55
            #90    307    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #90    307    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #91    839    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #91    839    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #91    839    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #92    590    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #92    590    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #92    590    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #93    924    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #93    924    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #93    924    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #94    038    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #94    038    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #94    038    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #95    543    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #95    543    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #95    543    9    09 18 27 36 45
            #96    058    3    03 12 49 58 67
            #96    058    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #96    058    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #97    597    2    02 11 39 48 57 66
            #97    597    4    04 13 22 59 68 77
            #97    597    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #98    234    5    05 14 23 69 78
            #98    234    6    06 15 24 33 79 88
            #98    234    7    07 16 25 34 89
            #99    018    1    01 29 38 47 56
            #99    018    8    08 17 26 35 44 99
            #99    018    9    09 18 27 36 45

            Yes, that is a juicy one Nodda4me!  99% of pair sum out streaks end by 12, so this one should be hitting real soon: pairs 05,14,23,69,78.

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              Posted: September 19, 2014, 4:29 pm - IP Logged

              Cool idea

              Midday today we had Connecticut, Georgia, and Ohio with 02,11,39,48,57,66 out 11 or 12 draws.  Connecticut hit today 012.

              Evening draws for tonight we have Indiana, Maryland, Quebec, and Texas Late Nite at 10 or more skips.  03,12,49,58,67

              Pairs Chart

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                Posted: September 19, 2014, 4:54 pm - IP Logged

                Any ideas?

                If you can track it you can trap it!  Hippy

                As the one with expertise...

                Only 30 pairs need to track;

                and one big hint:

                What am I the King of?

                Think of pairs that way.

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                  Posted: September 19, 2014, 5:10 pm - IP Logged

                  When it comes to pairs....

                  What you look for in Root sum

                  check for it in short sum

                  and vice versa

                  http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/280597/3784802 

                   

                  Posted: Yesterday, 2:56 pm - IP Logged
                  *********************************************************
                  Longest out and due short sums are
                  7*-2*-5*
                   

                  *********************

                  You can look at these as Root sums 7 2 or 5

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                  Posted: September 14, 2014, 2:10 pm - IP LoggedReplyFavorites

                  IT IS WHAT IT IS

                   

                  Short sums 5,9,0..due in Pa

                  You can look at these as Key digits

                  falling by 9/15

                  *********************

                  You can look at these as Root sums 5 or 9

                  Sun, Sep 14, 20140-6-3

                   

                   

                   

                   

                    garyo1954's avatar - garyo
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                    Posted: September 19, 2014, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

                    Recently I read a post that referred to the sums of pairs, an idea that I had not previously considered. So I set up a spreadsheet so that I could play around with the concept, and I’m glad I did.

                    I summed each of the 55 pairs in the Pick 3 game and then grouped the pairs by the Last Digit of the Pair Sum. For example, pair ‘56’ sums to 11, so it went into group 1, Pair ‘77’ sums to 14 so I put it in group 4.  Root sums would also work, but I like LDS.

                    This gives 10 groups of pairs with LDS 0-9. Once I started playing around with these groups I noticed some really interesting characteristics.

                    0

                    00

                    19

                    28

                    37

                    46

                    55

                    1

                    01

                    29

                    38

                    47

                    56

                    2

                    02

                    11

                    39

                    48

                    57

                    66

                    3

                    03

                    12

                    49

                    58

                    67

                    4

                    04

                    13

                    22

                    59

                    68

                    77

                    5

                    05

                    14

                    23

                    69

                    78

                    6

                    06

                    15

                    24

                    33

                    79

                    88

                    7

                    07

                    16

                    25

                    34

                    89

                    8

                    08

                    17

                    26

                    35

                    44

                    99

                    9

                    09

                    18

                    27

                    36

                    45

                     

                    -the even sums of pair groups each have 6 pairs: 2 doubles, 2 odd pairs and 2 even pairs

                    -theodd sum of pair groups each have 5 pairs: 1 mirror pair, 2 consecutive pairs and 2 “ghost” pairs (one even digit, one odd digit)

                    Although the even numbered groups have more combinations, all groups hit at the same rate – since doubles hit less often.

                    -Looking at the Even/Odd combinations of these groups, there are only 2 possible configurations: EEE and OOE. 75% of the time you will get OOE,that is 2 Odd-numbered pair groups and 1 even-numbered pair group.  25% of the time you will get 3 Even-numbered pair groups.  No other configuration of E/O is possible – go ahead, give it a try!

                    -About half the time when a double is drawn it will be EEE (3 even or odd digits e.g. 266, 799), and the other half of the doubles will be OOE (a mixture of even and odd, e.g. 223, 558).

                    Unmatched numbers with the EEE configuration show up about 12% of the time, and are always all even or all odd combinations such as 157 or 246.

                    Doubles will have only 2 sum groups but unmatched will ALWAYS have 3 different sum groups.

                    The arrangements of High and Low sums are much more in line with what we expect:

                    HHH 11.5%

                    HHL 38.5%

                    LLH 38.5%

                    LLL 11.5%

                    About 60% of the time there will be at least one repeat group from one game to the next, with most of these (45%) being 1 repeat group.

                    The pair sum groups have a median skip of 2, so there are few long out streaks, with most streaks resolving after 7-15 outs.

                    Now, this is not a system, but it seems that with all these quirks it has potential as the basis of a system.

                    Any ideas?

                    MARVELOUS!

                    A lot there to digest Tia! 5 star material!

                    G

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                      Hello,  tia good job, you can split the 4 patterns que created Monel filters
                      example
                      Where p = 1 is the last digit is even
                      02,24,46,80 ..... 25
                      Where Ip = the 1st digit is odd and the last pair
                      12, 16,18,34,36,38 .... 25
                      Where Pi = the 1st digit is even and the other odd
                      25,03,45,49 ... 25
                      ii = 1 where the digit is odd and the other odd
                      15,17,19,35,37 ...... 25
                      And so with outroa 3 patterns of high and low inside out and bullet NCED
                      Also by statistical and frequency, the five most frequencies (more out) and 5 cold)
                      That is all that is to condition the digits 9 0a by 5/5
                      You can sort the pairs in condition 4 of 25
                      an example
                      457 pairs = 57 = 45.47 = pi, pi .ii

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                        Yes, Dr. San.  As you point out much more filtering is possible with these groups.  My primary reason for posting about Pair Sums was just to explore some of the interesting characteristics of these groups.

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                          Hello, could join the statistic of 5 5 hot and cold digits digits
                            Demand for the pair to use as fixed (pivot) not to walk in a circle,
                            Indeed the great difficulty of pick3 and other lotteries find a reference
                          A basic pattern need not be 100% to be 75% and 80% of the time

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                            Hello, could join the statistic of 5 5 hot and cold digits digits
                              Demand for the pair to use as fixed (pivot) not to walk in a circle,
                              Indeed the great difficulty of pick3 and other lotteries find a reference
                            A basic pattern need not be 100% to be 75% and 80% of the time

                            We need to start thinking of where we can archive all of your post Tia.

                             

                             

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                              Posted: September 20, 2014, 7:12 pm - IP Logged

                              Recently I read a post that referred to the sums of pairs, an idea that I had not previously considered. So I set up a spreadsheet so that I could play around with the concept, and I’m glad I did.

                              I summed each of the 55 pairs in the Pick 3 game and then grouped the pairs by the Last Digit of the Pair Sum. For example, pair ‘56’ sums to 11, so it went into group 1, Pair ‘77’ sums to 14 so I put it in group 4.  Root sums would also work, but I like LDS.

                              This gives 10 groups of pairs with LDS 0-9. Once I started playing around with these groups I noticed some really interesting characteristics.

                              0

                              00

                              19

                              28

                              37

                              46

                              55

                              1

                              01

                              29

                              38

                              47

                              56

                              2

                              02

                              11

                              39

                              48

                              57

                              66

                              3

                              03

                              12

                              49

                              58

                              67

                              4

                              04

                              13

                              22

                              59

                              68

                              77

                              5

                              05

                              14

                              23

                              69

                              78

                              6

                              06

                              15

                              24

                              33

                              79

                              88

                              7

                              07

                              16

                              25

                              34

                              89

                              8

                              08

                              17

                              26

                              35

                              44

                              99

                              9

                              09

                              18

                              27

                              36

                              45

                               

                              -the even sums of pair groups each have 6 pairs: 2 doubles, 2 odd pairs and 2 even pairs

                              -theodd sum of pair groups each have 5 pairs: 1 mirror pair, 2 consecutive pairs and 2 “ghost” pairs (one even digit, one odd digit)

                              Although the even numbered groups have more combinations, all groups hit at the same rate – since doubles hit less often.

                              -Looking at the Even/Odd combinations of these groups, there are only 2 possible configurations: EEE and OOE. 75% of the time you will get OOE,that is 2 Odd-numbered pair groups and 1 even-numbered pair group.  25% of the time you will get 3 Even-numbered pair groups.  No other configuration of E/O is possible – go ahead, give it a try!

                              -About half the time when a double is drawn it will be EEE (3 even or odd digits e.g. 266, 799), and the other half of the doubles will be OOE (a mixture of even and odd, e.g. 223, 558).

                              Unmatched numbers with the EEE configuration show up about 12% of the time, and are always all even or all odd combinations such as 157 or 246.

                              Doubles will have only 2 sum groups but unmatched will ALWAYS have 3 different sum groups.

                              The arrangements of High and Low sums are much more in line with what we expect:

                              HHH 11.5%

                              HHL 38.5%

                              LLH 38.5%

                              LLL 11.5%

                              About 60% of the time there will be at least one repeat group from one game to the next, with most of these (45%) being 1 repeat group.

                              The pair sum groups have a median skip of 2, so there are few long out streaks, with most streaks resolving after 7-15 outs.

                              Now, this is not a system, but it seems that with all these quirks it has potential as the basis of a system.

                              Any ideas?

                              this chart have been out forever it you go > here <snip>.com it will tell you  to use it...

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