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Posted: October 9, 2014, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

We had 022 tonight which was in the chart I have as 202. I have your thread as one of my favorite post as well as your site on my desktop. Will continue watching your numbers and know that you will work out all the bugs. Thanks for all your help and wisdom. I use to do programming in my 20's but haven't done anything since. I really enjoyed it.

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    Oh, the lotto gods, they be cruel. As another kick to the gut... I've been playing 8/7 as the second set online (you can see it in the screen shots I posted above). That combination appears three times in my list. Well, it just hit TWICE today for FL. Neither of which was the order I had them in, and the mid-day hit was a double (knocking out some of the combinations). So that's 4 hits total, none of which were straight hits, the past four days. sigh... I'm going to go ahead and gets started on coding the ordering methods I came up with...

     

    dannyboyhouston, The system from this thread is something new I've been working on (two years in the making). It's not on my site yet. I coded almost every pattern system I've come up with over the last two years (including the one you're using on my site). Then I ran it year over year, for five years, to find out how well each one performed over a certain period of time. Then I took the best performer and used 5 years with of statistics to find out when to play the sets generated by the pattern. So that gives me a list. The sets are only good for a certain period of time (since that's all I'm tracking with my script). So the pattern tells me what numbers to play. The script tells me when to play them. The final step is to figure out how to play them (in what order). If I can wrap that up, I'll have a money maker here. With the script, I'm only ever betting ten numbers/dollars a draw, twenty a day. Hits are coming in pretty well, so the numbers are good. Hell, the hits are coming well enough that I'd be profitable just playing straight/boxed. Anyway, this system is based on data. Sharing it wouldn't do anyone any good unless they had a database like mine with years worth of data for the state they wanted to play. I only have that for a few states (FL, GA, CA, and NY)... One of the steps the script does is goes back through 5 years and checks how often it hit, against one of the pattern numbers, it with in a 30 day period, based on 5 day blocks... It would take someone weeks to do that (and that's just one step). SQL can process the entire script (4,000+ records for FL) in less than 10 seconds. So the best I can do is figuring out this order issue and throwing the whole thing up on my site for everyone to use.

     

    adobea78, I'm happy to hear the site is useful. :) I can see the traffic on the site, there's not much there. heh, the ads on there don't cover the cost of the server but I don't want to put a bazillion ads on there to make it annoying... The cost isn't bad and I automated the number updater so I keep it up there for the few users I have. Its pretty cool that some people are using it to win... Hope that it helps more...

     

    danny's question made me think... Might as well share what I have for the states I can. There are just a few things to keep in mind. I haven't tested other states. I still have an order problem. The numbers could change day by day, depending on what hits, how old the pair is (along with several other stats), etc. Keeping that in mind, here are the states I'm able to generate:

    FL's most likely set is 3/3 and the most likely order is x33. i.e. 033,133,233,333,433,533,633,733,833,933

    GA's most likely set is 0/3 and the most likely order is x30. i.e. 030,130,230,330,430,530,630,730,830,930 (9x9 looks good too, along with 5/4 pair)

    CA's most likely set is 5/3 and the most likely order is x35. i.e. 053,153,253,353,453,553,653,753,853,953 (I'd keep an eye out for 2/9 pair as well)

    NY's most likely set is 9/1 but I'd probably go with 4/1 (#2 in the list), orders are 1x9 and x14.

    Well, 9-1-1 hit MID today for NY and 9-9-2 hit MID for GA... So apparently this works for multiple states. Still, wrong order. I called 9x9 for GA and 1x9 for NY. sigh... Got some ideas for ordering, just need to finish coding them. Can't wait to have that done. These close calls kinda suck. :(

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      Well, 9-1-1 hit MID today for NY and 9-9-2 hit MID for GA... So apparently this works for multiple states. Still, wrong order. I called 9x9 for GA and 1x9 for NY. sigh... Got some ideas for ordering, just need to finish coding them. Can't wait to have that done. These close calls kinda suck. :(

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        FL hit straight tonight. So FL, GA (Boxed), NY (Boxed) hit and CA missed both draws. Not too bad for day after post. Anyone make any money off of this?

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          Oh, the lotto gods, they be cruel. As another kick to the gut... I've been playing 8/7 as the second set online (you can see it in the screen shots I posted above). That combination appears three times in my list. Well, it just hit TWICE today for FL. Neither of which was the order I had them in, and the mid-day hit was a double (knocking out some of the combinations). So that's 4 hits total, none of which were straight hits, the past four days. sigh... I'm going to go ahead and gets started on coding the ordering methods I came up with...

           

          dannyboyhouston, The system from this thread is something new I've been working on (two years in the making). It's not on my site yet. I coded almost every pattern system I've come up with over the last two years (including the one you're using on my site). Then I ran it year over year, for five years, to find out how well each one performed over a certain period of time. Then I took the best performer and used 5 years with of statistics to find out when to play the sets generated by the pattern. So that gives me a list. The sets are only good for a certain period of time (since that's all I'm tracking with my script). So the pattern tells me what numbers to play. The script tells me when to play them. The final step is to figure out how to play them (in what order). If I can wrap that up, I'll have a money maker here. With the script, I'm only ever betting ten numbers/dollars a draw, twenty a day. Hits are coming in pretty well, so the numbers are good. Hell, the hits are coming well enough that I'd be profitable just playing straight/boxed. Anyway, this system is based on data. Sharing it wouldn't do anyone any good unless they had a database like mine with years worth of data for the state they wanted to play. I only have that for a few states (FL, GA, CA, and NY)... One of the steps the script does is goes back through 5 years and checks how often it hit, against one of the pattern numbers, it with in a 30 day period, based on 5 day blocks... It would take someone weeks to do that (and that's just one step). SQL can process the entire script (4,000+ records for FL) in less than 10 seconds. So the best I can do is figuring out this order issue and throwing the whole thing up on my site for everyone to use.

           

          adobea78, I'm happy to hear the site is useful. :) I can see the traffic on the site, there's not much there. heh, the ads on there don't cover the cost of the server but I don't want to put a bazillion ads on there to make it annoying... The cost isn't bad and I automated the number updater so I keep it up there for the few users I have. Its pretty cool that some people are using it to win... Hope that it helps more...

           

          danny's question made me think... Might as well share what I have for the states I can. There are just a few things to keep in mind. I haven't tested other states. I still have an order problem. The numbers could change day by day, depending on what hits, how old the pair is (along with several other stats), etc. Keeping that in mind, here are the states I'm able to generate:

          FL's most likely set is 3/3 and the most likely order is x33. i.e. 033,133,233,333,433,533,633,733,833,933

          GA's most likely set is 0/3 and the most likely order is x30. i.e. 030,130,230,330,430,530,630,730,830,930 (9x9 looks good too, along with 5/4 pair)

          CA's most likely set is 5/3 and the most likely order is x35. i.e. 053,153,253,353,453,553,653,753,853,953 (I'd keep an eye out for 2/9 pair as well)

          NY's most likely set is 9/1 but I'd probably go with 4/1 (#2 in the list), orders are 1x9 and x14.

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            FL hit straight tonight. So FL, GA (Boxed), NY (Boxed) hit and CA missed both draws. Not too bad for day after post. Anyone make any money off of this?

            wooooooooooohooooooooooo!
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              #1: 002,102,202,302,402,502,602,702,802,902
              #2: 701,711,721,731,741,751,761,771,781,791

              I was able to do a little work on the ordering. Still not where I want it but I'll be playing these numbers straight. #1 in store. #1 & #2 online. As usual, this is for FL. It's worth mentioning that, while I've only been playing for two weeks, I've yet to win on the weekend.

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                #1: 002,102,202,302,402,502,602,702,802,902
                #2: 701,711,721,731,741,751,761,771,781,791

                I was able to do a little work on the ordering. Still not where I want it but I'll be playing these numbers straight. #1 in store. #1 & #2 online. As usual, this is for FL. It's worth mentioning that, while I've only been playing for two weeks, I've yet to win on the weekend.

                manual have you tested this in Tn? I know its RNG if it matters just wondering? Da Boot.

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                  I've come up with quite a few stats that give me a good idea what and when I should play. I'd like to come up with some more ways to help me order the pairs but I'm drawing a blank. Any ideas from the Lottery Post collective?

                   

                  First, congrats on your wins.

                  A few years ago I bought a system from the guy who has that Panther system, forget the guy's name, but it pretty much looked for pairs within a 14 day period. I still use it to narrow pairs in a specific order.

                  Basically, if you see two pairs in a specific order within a 14 day period, there's a very good chance that the same pair will show again for a third time before the 14 day period is over. It's a good system, and usually works about 75% of the time. The pair can hit a fourth time in that period too, but the general rule is 3 times.

                  Florida example below, 51 pair in red has hit twice in the past 10 days, so look for that pair to hit within the next 4 days, in that order. Sure enough, on Oct. 7, it hit as 517.

                  The 32 pair in green has hit twice in the past 10 days, so it's expected to hit within 4 days from today. Not guaranteed, but this does work often enough to capitalize on it.

                   

                   

                  Fri, Oct 10, 20143-2-68-3-3
                  Thu, Oct 9, 20147-7-88-5-7
                  Wed, Oct 8, 20141-3-89-4-2
                  Tue, Oct 7, 20140-0-85-1-7
                  Mon, Oct 6, 20140-3-56-8-9
                  Sun, Oct 5, 20147-0-00-6-8
                  Sat, Oct 4, 20143-3-89-3-9
                  Fri, Oct 3, 20149-0-73-2-0
                  Thu, Oct 2, 20147-1-25-1-8
                  Wed, Oct 1, 20145-1-74-4-7

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                    I've come up with quite a few stats that give me a good idea what and when I should play. I'd like to come up with some more ways to help me order the pairs but I'm drawing a blank. Any ideas from the Lottery Post collective?

                     

                    First, congrats on your wins.

                    A few years ago I bought a system from the guy who has that Panther system, forget the guy's name, but it pretty much looked for pairs within a 14 day period. I still use it to narrow pairs in a specific order.

                    Basically, if you see two pairs in a specific order within a 14 day period, there's a very good chance that the same pair will show again for a third time before the 14 day period is over. It's a good system, and usually works about 75% of the time. The pair can hit a fourth time in that period too, but the general rule is 3 times.

                    Florida example below, 51 pair in red has hit twice in the past 10 days, so look for that pair to hit within the next 4 days, in that order. Sure enough, on Oct. 7, it hit as 517.

                    The 32 pair in green has hit twice in the past 10 days, so it's expected to hit within 4 days from today. Not guaranteed, but this does work often enough to capitalize on it.

                     

                     

                    Fri, Oct 10, 20143-2-68-3-3
                    Thu, Oct 9, 20147-7-88-5-7
                    Wed, Oct 8, 20141-3-89-4-2
                    Tue, Oct 7, 20140-0-85-1-7
                    Mon, Oct 6, 20140-3-56-8-9
                    Sun, Oct 5, 20147-0-00-6-8
                    Sat, Oct 4, 20143-3-89-3-9
                    Fri, Oct 3, 20149-0-73-2-0
                    Thu, Oct 2, 20147-1-25-1-8
                    Wed, Oct 1, 20145-1-74-4-7

                    Looks like I overlooked the double 00 and 38 due too.

                    Edited..

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                      I've come up with quite a few stats that give me a good idea what and when I should play. I'd like to come up with some more ways to help me order the pairs but I'm drawing a blank. Any ideas from the Lottery Post collective?

                       

                      First, congrats on your wins.

                      A few years ago I bought a system from the guy who has that Panther system, forget the guy's name, but it pretty much looked for pairs within a 14 day period. I still use it to narrow pairs in a specific order.

                      Basically, if you see two pairs in a specific order within a 14 day period, there's a very good chance that the same pair will show again for a third time before the 14 day period is over. It's a good system, and usually works about 75% of the time. The pair can hit a fourth time in that period too, but the general rule is 3 times.

                      Florida example below, 51 pair in red has hit twice in the past 10 days, so look for that pair to hit within the next 4 days, in that order. Sure enough, on Oct. 7, it hit as 517.

                      The 32 pair in green has hit twice in the past 10 days, so it's expected to hit within 4 days from today. Not guaranteed, but this does work often enough to capitalize on it.

                       

                       

                      Fri, Oct 10, 20143-2-68-3-3
                      Thu, Oct 9, 20147-7-88-5-7
                      Wed, Oct 8, 20141-3-89-4-2
                      Tue, Oct 7, 20140-0-85-1-7
                      Mon, Oct 6, 20140-3-56-8-9
                      Sun, Oct 5, 20147-0-00-6-8
                      Sat, Oct 4, 20143-3-89-3-9
                      Fri, Oct 3, 20149-0-73-2-0
                      Thu, Oct 2, 20147-1-25-1-8
                      Wed, Oct 1, 20145-1-74-4-7

                      draw 517>key 780> pair 78-7x0-x80>hits  907,700,008,778

                      draw 712>key 081>pair 08-0x1-x81>hits>008,138

                      After draws 517,712> pair 80 or 08 is obvious

                       

                      draw 907>key 085> pair 08x-0x5, x85>hit 035,008

                      draw 338>key 810>pair 81x-8x0,x10>hit 800

                       

                      draw 700>key 081>08x-0x1-x81>hit 008

                      draw 035>817>81-8x7-x17>hit 138,778

                      Note> x is mostly from draw sets

                       

                      EVE Draws

                      447>key 740>pair 74-7x0-x40

                      518>key 780>pair 78-7x0-x80>>>> 7x0 trending after two draws

                      320>key 819>pair 81-8x9-x19>689

                      939>key 085>pair 08-0x5-x85> hits 068,857

                      068>870>pair 87-8x0-x70> hit 857

                       

                      NB> is best to compress at least two workout draws to locate a pair trend, now whether you wage combined draws or single draws(Day or Night)  is personal, but at least you have control over your pairs. The keys are simulated data posted long time on my thread  ' lets go random'.

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                        draw 517>key 780> pair 78-7x0-x80>hits  907,700,008,778

                        draw 712>key 081>pair 08-0x1-x81>hits>008,138

                        After draws 517,712> pair 80 or 08 is obvious

                         

                        draw 907>key 085> pair 08x-0x5, x85>hit 035,008

                        draw 338>key 810>pair 81x-8x0,x10>hit 800

                         

                        draw 700>key 081>08x-0x1-x81>hit 008

                        draw 035>817>81-8x7-x17>hit 138,778

                        Note> x is mostly from draw sets

                         

                        EVE Draws

                        447>key 740>pair 74-7x0-x40

                        518>key 780>pair 78-7x0-x80>>>> 7x0 trending after two draws

                        320>key 819>pair 81-8x9-x19>689

                        939>key 085>pair 08-0x5-x85> hits 068,857

                        068>870>pair 87-8x0-x70> hit 857

                         

                        NB> is best to compress at least two workout draws to locate a pair trend, now whether you wage combined draws or single draws(Day or Night)  is personal, but at least you have control over your pairs. The keys are simulated data posted long time on my thread  ' lets go random'.

                        NE>generating pairs

                        Drawing DatePick 3Pick 4
                        MiddayEveningMiddayEvening
                        Fri, Oct 10, 20144-2-8
                        Thu, Oct 9, 20149-0-1
                        Wed, Oct 8, 20146-8-7
                        Tue, Oct 7, 20148-6-6
                        Mon, Oct 6, 20141-6-5
                        Sat, Oct 4, 20143-2-1
                        Fri, Oct 3, 20143-3-8
                        Thu, Oct 2, 20148-3-7
                        Wed, Oct 1, 20149-1-0
                        Tue, Sep 30, 20147-7-4

                         

                        draw        key          pairs

                        774        057          05-0x7-x57

                        910       081          08-0x1--x81

                        837      085          08-0x5-x85

                        338      810        81-8x0-x10

                         

                        predicted pairs after 4 draws  is from key 081 and 810

                         

                         

                        321>819>81-8x9-x19>hit 901

                        165>874>87-8x4-x74>hit 687,428

                        866>074>07-0x4-x74

                        687>705> 70-7x5-x05

                        pending pairs for NM> x74, 74x,07x, 70x

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                          I'd rather leave this thread to manual's predictions only.

                          He deserves that.

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                            Oh, the lotto gods, they be cruel. As another kick to the gut... I've been playing 8/7 as the second set online (you can see it in the screen shots I posted above). That combination appears three times in my list. Well, it just hit TWICE today for FL. Neither of which was the order I had them in, and the mid-day hit was a double (knocking out some of the combinations). So that's 4 hits total, none of which were straight hits, the past four days. sigh... I'm going to go ahead and gets started on coding the ordering methods I came up with...

                             

                            dannyboyhouston, The system from this thread is something new I've been working on (two years in the making). It's not on my site yet. I coded almost every pattern system I've come up with over the last two years (including the one you're using on my site). Then I ran it year over year, for five years, to find out how well each one performed over a certain period of time. Then I took the best performer and used 5 years with of statistics to find out when to play the sets generated by the pattern. So that gives me a list. The sets are only good for a certain period of time (since that's all I'm tracking with my script). So the pattern tells me what numbers to play. The script tells me when to play them. The final step is to figure out how to play them (in what order). If I can wrap that up, I'll have a money maker here. With the script, I'm only ever betting ten numbers/dollars a draw, twenty a day. Hits are coming in pretty well, so the numbers are good. Hell, the hits are coming well enough that I'd be profitable just playing straight/boxed. Anyway, this system is based on data. Sharing it wouldn't do anyone any good unless they had a database like mine with years worth of data for the state they wanted to play. I only have that for a few states (FL, GA, CA, and NY)... One of the steps the script does is goes back through 5 years and checks how often it hit, against one of the pattern numbers, it with in a 30 day period, based on 5 day blocks... It would take someone weeks to do that (and that's just one step). SQL can process the entire script (4,000+ records for FL) in less than 10 seconds. So the best I can do is figuring out this order issue and throwing the whole thing up on my site for everyone to use.

                             

                            adobea78, I'm happy to hear the site is useful. :) I can see the traffic on the site, there's not much there. heh, the ads on there don't cover the cost of the server but I don't want to put a bazillion ads on there to make it annoying... The cost isn't bad and I automated the number updater so I keep it up there for the few users I have. Its pretty cool that some people are using it to win... Hope that it helps more...

                             

                            danny's question made me think... Might as well share what I have for the states I can. There are just a few things to keep in mind. I haven't tested other states. I still have an order problem. The numbers could change day by day, depending on what hits, how old the pair is (along with several other stats), etc. Keeping that in mind, here are the states I'm able to generate:

                            FL's most likely set is 3/3 and the most likely order is x33. i.e. 033,133,233,333,433,533,633,733,833,933

                            GA's most likely set is 0/3 and the most likely order is x30. i.e. 030,130,230,330,430,530,630,730,830,930 (9x9 looks good too, along with 5/4 pair)

                            CA's most likely set is 5/3 and the most likely order is x35. i.e. 053,153,253,353,453,553,653,753,853,953 (I'd keep an eye out for 2/9 pair as well)

                            NY's most likely set is 9/1 but I'd probably go with 4/1 (#2 in the list), orders are 1x9 and x14.

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                              bootleg233, no, I haven't done TN. I haven't tested a lot of states because I just don't have the back data for it. Without several years worth of data, for any given state, this system is useless. To add a state, I have to find the back data for it (and import it) and add the automated update to my website. That takes time and I don't have much of that at the moment. I have a day job that keeps me busy. I'll add more states as time allows.

                               

                              onlymoney, thank you for the suggestion. I'll try and code that to see how accurate the information is. If it's sound, I'll add it to this system and see if it inreases the predictability. 

                               

                              adobea78, ah, I don't understand... I like the idea of getting control of my pairs though. :)

                               

                              cuteban25, that's awesome man. Really glad to see others are winning as well. Hopefully more will come and win.

                               

                               

                              I'm currently working to semi-automate (don't have the time for the full thing) this system so it requires much less work, and can do the few states I have enough data for. I'll get it up on my site as soon as possible so people will have up to date information. I have the back end work done, just need to do the front end...