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Anyone have a strategy for the North Carolina ALL or Nothing game ??? This is a draw game, where you match all 12/24, or none/24, or there are  other ways to win small amounts of $$$.

From the NC Lottery Website:

ALL OR NOTHING is the exciting new draw game where you can match ALL the numbers or NONE of the numbers and win the top prize of $250,000*. That’s right, EITHER WAY WINS! And there are also  additional prizes for matching some of the numbers. Drawings are held twice daily at 12:30 PM and 7:30 PM and can be viewed at nc-educationlottery.org.

How Much Can I Win?

MatchPrizeOdds 1 in:
Overall odds of winning any prize is 1:4.54
*Approximate combined odds of winning the TOP PRIZE (Match 12 and Match 0) are 1 in 1.35 million.
12$250,000*2,704,156
11$50018,779
10$50621
9$1056
8$211
4$211
3$1056
2$50621
1$50018,779
0$250,000*2,704,156
Sat, Oct 4, 201401-03-06-07-08-09-10-13-14-20?Prize Payouts
Fri, Oct 3, 201401-07-08-09-11-12-13-17-18-20?Prize Payouts
Thu, Oct 2, 201403-05-06-08-10-12-13-14-15-18?Prize Payouts
Wed, Oct 1, 201401-02-03-04-06-11-13-16-19-20?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 30, 201401-03-04-07-08-11-12-13-15-18?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 29, 201401-09-11-12-14-15-16-18-19-20?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 27, 201401-02-03-04-05-07-09-15-16-18?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 26, 201401-03-04-08-09-13-14-17-18-20?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 25, 201401-05-06-08-09-10-12-14-15-16?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 24, 201403-04-05-07-12-13-16-17-18-19?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 23, 201401-03-04-06-11-12-15-17-19-20?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 22, 201401-03-05-07-09-11-12-13-15-18?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 20, 201404-05-06-11-13-14-16-17-19-20?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 19, 201402-03-05-06-07-09-10-11-17-18?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 18, 201402-04-07-09-11-13-14-15-19-20?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 17, 201401-03-04-05-06-07-10-11-13-18?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 16, 201401-02-03-05-07-08-12-14-16-19?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 15, 201401-02-03-04-06-07-09-16-17-20?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 13, 201401-02-04-05-09-10-14-16-17-20?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 12, 201404-07-09-11-12-13-14-16-18-20?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 11, 201401-02-03-05-07-09-10-11-15-17?Prize Payouts
Wed, Sep 10, 201401-02-06-10-11-13-15-17-18-19?Prize Payouts
Tue, Sep 9, 201403-06-08-12-13-15-17-18-19-20?Prize Payouts
Mon, Sep 8, 201402-04-05-06-07-11-12-15-17-18?Prize Payouts
Sat, Sep 6, 201401-04-05-07-09-11-13-14-18-19?Prize Payouts
Fri, Sep 5, 201404-05-09-10-11-12-14-15-17-19?Prize Payouts
Thu, Sep 4, 201401-04-06-09-12-13-14-15-18-19?Prize Payouts

The results above are for the DAYTIME drawing only.

Anyone playing this game ??? All Strategies welcome.  Thank you.

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    Anyone have a strategy for the North Carolina ALL or Nothing game ??? This is a draw game, where you match all 12/24, or none/24, or there are  other ways to win small amounts of $$$.

    From the NC Lottery Website:

    ALL OR NOTHING is the exciting new draw game where you can match ALL the numbers or NONE of the numbers and win the top prize of $250,000*. That’s right, EITHER WAY WINS! And there are also  additional prizes for matching some of the numbers. Drawings are held twice daily at 12:30 PM and 7:30 PM and can be viewed at nc-educationlottery.org.

    How Much Can I Win?

    MatchPrizeOdds 1 in:
    Overall odds of winning any prize is 1:4.54
    *Approximate combined odds of winning the TOP PRIZE (Match 12 and Match 0) are 1 in 1.35 million.
    12$250,000*2,704,156
    11$50018,779
    10$50621
    9$1056
    8$211
    4$211
    3$1056
    2$50621
    1$50018,779
    0$250,000*2,704,156
    Sat, Oct 4, 201401-03-06-07-08-09-10-13-14-20?Prize Payouts
    Fri, Oct 3, 201401-07-08-09-11-12-13-17-18-20?Prize Payouts
    Thu, Oct 2, 201403-05-06-08-10-12-13-14-15-18?Prize Payouts
    Wed, Oct 1, 201401-02-03-04-06-11-13-16-19-20?Prize Payouts
    Tue, Sep 30, 201401-03-04-07-08-11-12-13-15-18?Prize Payouts
    Mon, Sep 29, 201401-09-11-12-14-15-16-18-19-20?Prize Payouts
    Sat, Sep 27, 201401-02-03-04-05-07-09-15-16-18?Prize Payouts
    Fri, Sep 26, 201401-03-04-08-09-13-14-17-18-20?Prize Payouts
    Thu, Sep 25, 201401-05-06-08-09-10-12-14-15-16?Prize Payouts
    Wed, Sep 24, 201403-04-05-07-12-13-16-17-18-19?Prize Payouts
    Tue, Sep 23, 201401-03-04-06-11-12-15-17-19-20?Prize Payouts
    Mon, Sep 22, 201401-03-05-07-09-11-12-13-15-18?Prize Payouts
    Sat, Sep 20, 201404-05-06-11-13-14-16-17-19-20?Prize Payouts
    Fri, Sep 19, 201402-03-05-06-07-09-10-11-17-18?Prize Payouts
    Thu, Sep 18, 201402-04-07-09-11-13-14-15-19-20?Prize Payouts
    Wed, Sep 17, 201401-03-04-05-06-07-10-11-13-18?Prize Payouts
    Tue, Sep 16, 201401-02-03-05-07-08-12-14-16-19?Prize Payouts
    Mon, Sep 15, 201401-02-03-04-06-07-09-16-17-20?Prize Payouts
    Sat, Sep 13, 201401-02-04-05-09-10-14-16-17-20?Prize Payouts
    Fri, Sep 12, 201404-07-09-11-12-13-14-16-18-20?Prize Payouts
    Thu, Sep 11, 201401-02-03-05-07-09-10-11-15-17?Prize Payouts
    Wed, Sep 10, 201401-02-06-10-11-13-15-17-18-19?Prize Payouts
    Tue, Sep 9, 201403-06-08-12-13-15-17-18-19-20?Prize Payouts
    Mon, Sep 8, 201402-04-05-06-07-11-12-15-17-18?Prize Payouts
    Sat, Sep 6, 201401-04-05-07-09-11-13-14-18-19?Prize Payouts
    Fri, Sep 5, 201404-05-09-10-11-12-14-15-17-19?Prize Payouts
    Thu, Sep 4, 201401-04-06-09-12-13-14-15-18-19?Prize Payouts

    The results above are for the DAYTIME drawing only.

    Anyone playing this game ??? All Strategies welcome.  Thank you.

    Idea: Nothing Strategy:

    If you match 1 number, you win $500.  But you must NOT MATCH the other 11 numbers.  IF you play the NOTHING Strategy, you have to figure out which numbers are not falling, and only play 1 number that is falling, to win $500

    The number 1 has been hitting a lot during the daytime.

    Just BRAIN-STORMING.

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      Posted: October 4, 2014, 3:13 pm - IP Logged

      Lotto Laughs:

      Can your KENO Strategy be tweaked to work for this type of game, 12/24 or some/24 or none/24 ???

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        just use magayo lotto!

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          Posted: October 6, 2014, 11:15 am - IP Logged

          All or Nothing Game odds are not good for the players !!!!!!!!!! Hit With Stick

           

          Original Post on September 28, 2014 by L273

          NC  All or Nothing Game started Sep 7, 2014

          It has had 42 draws And Still No Big Winners ....................

          Two draws a day for 21 days at $2.00 a draw  would be $84.00

          what a rip off !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

           

          I look at Texas Lottery's website at there " ALL or NOTHING" game

          Texas has (4 draws per-day)

          For the year 2014 Texas has only had (15 winners of $250,000

           

          I also look at Georgia " ALL or NOTHING"

          they have less winners then Texas for 2014

           

          Cash 5 it's getting hit every few days.

          one draw  a day at $1.00 a draw 

          Most of the time bigger pay outs with better odds and cheaper to !!!!!!!!!! 

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            Posted: October 6, 2014, 11:40 am - IP Logged

            Anyone have a strategy for the North Carolina ALL or Nothing game ??? This is a draw game, where you match all 12/24, or none/24, or there are  other ways to win small amounts of $$$.

            From the NC Lottery Website:

            ALL OR NOTHING is the exciting new draw game where you can match ALL the numbers or NONE of the numbers and win the top prize of $250,000*. That’s right, EITHER WAY WINS! And there are also  additional prizes for matching some of the numbers. Drawings are held twice daily at 12:30 PM and 7:30 PM and can be viewed at nc-educationlottery.org.

            How Much Can I Win?

            MatchPrizeOdds 1 in:
            Overall odds of winning any prize is 1:4.54
            *Approximate combined odds of winning the TOP PRIZE (Match 12 and Match 0) are 1 in 1.35 million.
            12$250,000*2,704,156
            11$50018,779
            10$50621
            9$1056
            8$211
            4$211
            3$1056
            2$50621
            1$50018,779
            0$250,000*2,704,156
            Sat, Oct 4, 201401-03-06-07-08-09-10-13-14-20?Prize Payouts
            Fri, Oct 3, 201401-07-08-09-11-12-13-17-18-20?Prize Payouts
            Thu, Oct 2, 201403-05-06-08-10-12-13-14-15-18?Prize Payouts
            Wed, Oct 1, 201401-02-03-04-06-11-13-16-19-20?Prize Payouts
            Tue, Sep 30, 201401-03-04-07-08-11-12-13-15-18?Prize Payouts
            Mon, Sep 29, 201401-09-11-12-14-15-16-18-19-20?Prize Payouts
            Sat, Sep 27, 201401-02-03-04-05-07-09-15-16-18?Prize Payouts
            Fri, Sep 26, 201401-03-04-08-09-13-14-17-18-20?Prize Payouts
            Thu, Sep 25, 201401-05-06-08-09-10-12-14-15-16?Prize Payouts
            Wed, Sep 24, 201403-04-05-07-12-13-16-17-18-19?Prize Payouts
            Tue, Sep 23, 201401-03-04-06-11-12-15-17-19-20?Prize Payouts
            Mon, Sep 22, 201401-03-05-07-09-11-12-13-15-18?Prize Payouts
            Sat, Sep 20, 201404-05-06-11-13-14-16-17-19-20?Prize Payouts
            Fri, Sep 19, 201402-03-05-06-07-09-10-11-17-18?Prize Payouts
            Thu, Sep 18, 201402-04-07-09-11-13-14-15-19-20?Prize Payouts
            Wed, Sep 17, 201401-03-04-05-06-07-10-11-13-18?Prize Payouts
            Tue, Sep 16, 201401-02-03-05-07-08-12-14-16-19?Prize Payouts
            Mon, Sep 15, 201401-02-03-04-06-07-09-16-17-20?Prize Payouts
            Sat, Sep 13, 201401-02-04-05-09-10-14-16-17-20?Prize Payouts
            Fri, Sep 12, 201404-07-09-11-12-13-14-16-18-20?Prize Payouts
            Thu, Sep 11, 201401-02-03-05-07-09-10-11-15-17?Prize Payouts
            Wed, Sep 10, 201401-02-06-10-11-13-15-17-18-19?Prize Payouts
            Tue, Sep 9, 201403-06-08-12-13-15-17-18-19-20?Prize Payouts
            Mon, Sep 8, 201402-04-05-06-07-11-12-15-17-18?Prize Payouts
            Sat, Sep 6, 201401-04-05-07-09-11-13-14-18-19?Prize Payouts
            Fri, Sep 5, 201404-05-09-10-11-12-14-15-17-19?Prize Payouts
            Thu, Sep 4, 201401-04-06-09-12-13-14-15-18-19?Prize Payouts

            The results above are for the DAYTIME drawing only.

            Anyone playing this game ??? All Strategies welcome.  Thank you.

            Play two sets.

            ALL EVEN

            ALL ODD

            When either set hits, you collect $500,000 for having ALL in one set and NONE in the other.

            This is the strategy that caused Texas to temporarily suspend the All or Nothing Game the year it came out. 

             

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              Play two sets.

              ALL EVEN

              ALL ODD

              When either set hits, you collect $500,000 for having ALL in one set and NONE in the other.

              This is the strategy that caused Texas to temporarily suspend the All or Nothing Game the year it came out. 

               

              G

              When they found out how many people were playing all even/odd and high/low, they put a cap on how much could be paid out and changed the top prize to pari-mutual. North Carolina has the same rule.

              As a playing strategy, it's a good as any other, but if you match all or nothing, you probably won't collect the full top prize.

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                Posted: October 6, 2014, 5:04 pm - IP Logged

                just use magayo lotto!

                What is magayo lotto ???

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                  The payout is terrible for this game. It would be better if it was a dollar to play instead of two bucks. The Cash 5 is alot better even with the EZ match option making it 2 bucks. I played the first week it came out and wasn't impressed lol.

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                    If you count the odd/or even numbers -- each time you get 11 or 12 -- rarely more one way or the other -- always puts you in the 5, 6, 7, 8 -- nothing pile category -- no $$.

                    NCEL says the numbers are select using "Random number generator program".  I doubt that.

                    They say it takes too long to draw 12 numbers, but every night at 11:22 p.m.  Pick 3, Pick 4, Cash 5 -- that's 12 numbers.

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                      When they found out how many people were playing all even/odd and high/low, they put a cap on how much could be paid out and changed the top prize to pari-mutual. North Carolina has the same rule.

                      As a playing strategy, it's a good as any other, but if you match all or nothing, you probably won't collect the full top prize.

                      Thanks Stack. Didn't know that.

                      That means they split $250,000 (or $500,000) between all players?

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                        Thanks Stack. Didn't know that.

                        That means they split $250,000 (or $500,000) between all players?

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                        There is a $5 million cap so up to 20 tickets can collect the $250,000 jackpot. The high/low and even/odd was a box option on the play slips and before the game was stopped and the cap was put into place, over 100 tickets a drawing bet that way and possible loss of $20 million or more.

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                          On March 13 of this year there were 238 players that won $500 hitting either 1 of 12 or 11 of 12 playing all even numbers. If all 12 had been even there would have been 238 jackpots winners that would have shared $250,000.

                          CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

                          A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)

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                            destinycreation,

                            Take a good look at the payout chart:

                            How Much Can I Win?

                            Match

                            Prize

                            Odds 1 in:

                            Overall odds of winning any prize is 1:4.54
                            *Approximate combined odds of winning the TOP PRIZE (Match 12 and Match 0) are 1 in 1.35 million.

                            12 $250,000* 2,704,156
                            11 $500 18,779
                            10 $50 621
                            9 $10 56
                            8 $2 11
                            4 $2 11
                            3 $10 56
                            2 $50 621
                            1 $500 18,779
                            0 $250,000* 2,704,156
                            ____________________________________________________

                            It makes it look like everything is a winner but notice that there is no 5, 6, or 7 on the chart.
                            Guess what you'll hit the most often.

                            I played this a few times when Illinois first got it, but after that just made a set of 12 numbers and tracked it for a month. I used 1-6 and 19-24 just to keep it simples and used them every day 'on paper'.
                            Four draws a day, one day showed a win (more than $8 @  4 draws a day), every other day was a loser.

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                              destinycreation,

                              Take a good look at the payout chart:

                              How Much Can I Win?

                              Match

                              Prize

                              Odds 1 in:

                              Overall odds of winning any prize is 1:4.54
                              *Approximate combined odds of winning the TOP PRIZE (Match 12 and Match 0) are 1 in 1.35 million.

                              12 $250,000* 2,704,156
                              11 $500 18,779
                              10 $50 621
                              9 $10 56
                              8 $2 11
                              4 $2 11
                              3 $10 56
                              2 $50 621
                              1 $500 18,779
                              0 $250,000* 2,704,156
                              ____________________________________________________

                              It makes it look like everything is a winner but notice that there is no 5, 6, or 7 on the chart.
                              Guess what you'll hit the most often.

                              I played this a few times when Illinois first got it, but after that just made a set of 12 numbers and tracked it for a month. I used 1-6 and 19-24 just to keep it simples and used them every day 'on paper'.
                              Four draws a day, one day showed a win (more than $8 @  4 draws a day), every other day was a loser.

                              If you play this game 4 times a day you will most definitely lose more than you win unless you hit for the jackpot or $500. I use to play 2 draws a day and noticed if I hit for $2 on one draw I would always lose the other draw. So, I play at most 1 draw a day and sometimes I'll go a few days and not play at all.

                              The overall odds of this game aren't bad, but the odds for the jackpot plus the $2 per tic aren't so good. But, the prospect of $250000 getting me out of debt is hard to pass up.

                              CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

                              A DOLLAR AND A DREAM (OR $2)