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who is willing to test with me my pick3 system at LP prediction page?

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RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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mmx1

I have this data for single games, just wanted to know if winsum had a means of testing all US games

at one time. 

Here are the MO midday pick-3 box pair totals and games out.  I think this is for the last 1000 games

but not sure how many I set it to generate.

Box Pair shows
00= 40                 
01= 56  11= 36               
02= 52  12= 56  22= 20             
03= 47  13= 50  23= 52  33= 32           
04= 57  14= 52  24= 57  34= 54  44= 22         
05= 46  15= 54  25= 41  35= 60  45= 50  55= 34       
06= 67  16= 49  26= 48  36= 53  46= 53  56= 50  66= 41     
07= 53  17= 46  27= 53  37= 48  47= 53  57= 49  67= 48  77= 31   
08= 55  18= 54  28= 48  38= 60  48= 45  58= 52  68= 53  78= 59  88= 29 
09= 52  19= 45  29= 38  39= 61  49= 54  59= 56  69= 49  79= 63  89= 52  99= 34

Games out
00= 20                 
01= 20  11= 26               
02=  8  12= 12  22=  5             
03=  9  13= 12  23=  6  33= 43           
04= 13  14= 30  24=  4  34= 13  44= 64         
05=  2  15= 10  25=  4  35=  1  45=  4  55=  1       
06=  0  16= 52  26=  6  36=  6  46= 16  56= 31  66= 39     
07= 68  17= 40  27=  7  37= 32  47= 33  57=  7  67= 39  77= 33   
08=  0  18= 17  28= 15  38= 19  48= 15  58=  2  68=  0  78= 11  88= 18 
09=  8  19= 30  29=  8  39=  3  49= 24  59=  3  69= 86  79= 11  89= 11  99= 56

 

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    adobea78

    No familiar with the lingo so not sure what your saying, I am new to the daily games as played in

    the LP forums.  I have no idea what 10p2=90 means. 

    You wrote

    Draw 580> key 3,5(first positions), 3 + 90 pairs, 5+90 pairs > hits 563,397,554,332,506,559,549, so     

    waging  str bets for 180 picks , you had 7 straight hits within 11 draws.

    Draw 123>key1, 3> hits 397, 332  ,   Draw 840>key 0,5>hit 554,059,559,549,003

    Again, not a clue.

    RL

    Permutations without repetition can be defined as follows:

    P(n,r) where n is the number of items to choose from and r is the number of items to choose.

    Its calculated n! / (n-r)!

    So P(10,2) would be 10! / (10-2)! or 10! / 8! = 90 combinations.  So in other words you are tossing out pairs 00 11 22 33 44 55 66 77 88 99.

    When discussing permutations or combinations, permutations means order matters, and combinations means order does not matter.

    So a box player would use combinations whereas a straight player would use permutations.

    Jimmy

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      JW

      Thanks, I use the nPr and nCr all the time, just did not understand it the way it was expressed.

       

      RL

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      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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        mmx1

        I have this data for single games, just wanted to know if winsum had a means of testing all US games

        at one time. 

        Here are the MO midday pick-3 box pair totals and games out.  I think this is for the last 1000 games

        but not sure how many I set it to generate.

        Box Pair shows
        00= 40                 
        01= 56  11= 36               
        02= 52  12= 56  22= 20             
        03= 47  13= 50  23= 52  33= 32           
        04= 57  14= 52  24= 57  34= 54  44= 22         
        05= 46  15= 54  25= 41  35= 60  45= 50  55= 34       
        06= 67  16= 49  26= 48  36= 53  46= 53  56= 50  66= 41     
        07= 53  17= 46  27= 53  37= 48  47= 53  57= 49  67= 48  77= 31   
        08= 55  18= 54  28= 48  38= 60  48= 45  58= 52  68= 53  78= 59  88= 29 
        09= 52  19= 45  29= 38  39= 61  49= 54  59= 56  69= 49  79= 63  89= 52  99= 34

        Games out
        00= 20                 
        01= 20  11= 26               
        02=  8  12= 12  22=  5             
        03=  9  13= 12  23=  6  33= 43           
        04= 13  14= 30  24=  4  34= 13  44= 64         
        05=  2  15= 10  25=  4  35=  1  45=  4  55=  1       
        06=  0  16= 52  26=  6  36=  6  46= 16  56= 31  66= 39     
        07= 68  17= 40  27=  7  37= 32  47= 33  57=  7  67= 39  77= 33   
        08=  0  18= 17  28= 15  38= 19  48= 15  58=  2  68=  0  78= 11  88= 18 
        09=  8  19= 30  29=  8  39=  3  49= 24  59=  3  69= 86  79= 11  89= 11  99= 56

         

        RL

        RL,

        I have all the Pairs data for every Pick 3 drawing.

        I wanted to ask what we are testing?

        Thanks,

        Steve


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          Florida, tonight's eve and tomorrow's eve draws STR8.

          351-352-572-573-793-794-914-915-135-136-356-357-577-578-798-799-929-920


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            Florida, tonight's eve and tomorrow's eve draws STR8.

            351-352-572-573-793-794-914-915-135-136-356-357-577-578-798-799-929-920

            The winner was 154.

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            There's always tomorrow night as planned.

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              The winner was 154.

              What do you want from my life? Green laugh

              There's always tomorrow night as planned.

              applying with my formula with the key digit 1,a 6 way boxed win is there.

              To RL,This is how my formula works.It doesn't need much analysis,it just need one key digit.

              Hans

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                Steve

                Take the last 30 draws for all pick-3 games and then count the number of times each digit pair shows. 

                Next select the top 10 hitting pairs.  Hans has posted 10 pairs of digits which seem to have a better

                than average hit rate for my p-3 games. I can't say how they are doing in other states but a few have

                reported several hits in other states.   I am just trying to establish a base line of sorts so that I have

                something to compare. 

                In a pick-3 we have

                10  - triples

                270- doubles

                720- singles

                Excluding doubles and triples, every 3-digit draw has 3 possible pairs of different digits.  1-2, 1-3 and 2-3. 

                Every possible 3 different digit combo can be covered in 120 lines.   There are 90 pairs of digits if doubles

                are excluded so 90/3=30 so we can expect any one pair to show around 1 in 30 single digit draws.  If we

                play 10 pairs then we should expect one of these to show around 1 in 30/10=3 single digit drawings.

                 

                I combined both my midday and evening draws and in a 10 game test, which was the number of draws since

                his list was posted and found 5 games where one of his pairs showed.  50% vs the expected 33%.  That's a

                17%  increase over the expected.  Just trying to get my feet wet and offhand I could see anything between 

                20 to 40 percent as being normal in a 10 line test. 

                 

                For any of this to work one has to pick the correct key so it's not a sure thing or at least in any way I can work

                it out unless playing online.  If playing the 10 pairs with all 10 key digits for 100 lines then these pairs would

                have broke even here in MO.  That may not seem attractive money wise but it is impressive concerning the odds.

                 

                What I was trying to establish is if the pairs Hans posted are special or if a list of similar pairs based on overall

                hits would fair as well in forward test.  I don't normally work on this type of analysis but when I see something

                that looks interesting I check it out.

                 

                RL

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                  applying with my formula with the key digit 1,a 6 way boxed win is there.

                  To RL,This is how my formula works.It doesn't need much analysis,it just need one key digit.

                  Hans

                  Hans

                  To RL,This is how my formula works.It doesn't need much analysis,it just need one key digit.

                   

                  So are you saying you just guess?

                  What?

                  Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                  I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                  they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                  USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                    Calculating the last 100 draws for each state's pick 3 the Side Pairs seem to win the most

                    Screen shots of Midday, Evening, Combined Front, Back and Side Pairs

                    Download folder:

                    https://app.box.com/s/7o3ckz5kcl91l4oumi0s

                    Of course the key to winning straigt's is selecting the Banker or Key digit whether it be the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd digit.

                    Pennsylvania Pick 3 Midday draws hit 19 times (side pairs) in the last 100 draws.  The 3,8 side pair being drawn 4 times.

                    New York Pick 3 Evening draws hit 19 times (side pairs) in the last 100 draws.  The 8,0 side pair drawn 5 times and 3,8 3 4 times.

                    RL,

                    I posted this link to a folder that contains a number of screen shots for all Pick 3 draws.

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                      Hans

                      To RL,This is how my formula works.It doesn't need much analysis,it just need one key digit.

                       

                      So are you saying you just guess?

                      What?

                      The key digit prediction is from my filter system.

                      I usually predict 6 digits among 9 and I take the 1st number as the key digit.

                      Hans

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                        Florida, tonight's eve and tomorrow's eve draws STR8.

                        351-352-572-573-793-794-914-915-135-136-356-357-577-578-798-799-929-920

                        I told ya. ha ha, new system I have works. It didn't hit in the eve draw as I said it would, but it's still good enough for me.

                        The Florida mid winner today was 351.

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                          Here it is

                          pick 1 banker number,and wheel into the banker position.

                          10 lines only so all you need to do is to pick one correct banker and test the overall prize ratio at lp prediction page.

                           

                          43Banker
                          80Banker
                          36Banker
                          45Banker
                          90Banker
                          27Banker
                          37Banker
                          64Banker
                          82Banker
                          38Banker

                          Hans

                          I can help test.  What is the best way to ensure good data collection?  What do I need to do?

                          And how would you recommend to pick a key number?  ( I don't like the term banker as bankers are the most vile specious of human on earth)

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                            Florida, tonight's eve and tomorrow's eve draws STR8.

                            351-352-572-573-793-794-914-915-135-136-356-357-577-578-798-799-929-920

                            Nice!  How long are you going to keep these in play?  I like the 572 and 577.  Interesting that the 351 was also in as 135.  That number has come in 4x in past two months.  Florida has been hard to follow past 3 weeks.  Needs to correct itself..Maybe triple out there soon. 

                            Thanks for posting.

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                              I can help test.  What is the best way to ensure good data collection?  What do I need to do?

                              And how would you recommend to pick a key number?  ( I don't like the term banker as bankers are the most vile specious of human on earth)

                              All you need to do is to pick up one key digit that appears in the next drawing.

                              you can test many states pick3 or your own state pick3.

                              The way I Pick up one key digit is generated from my filter systems.It works well enough to produce 3 more winning numbers among 10 numbers for pick5 and pick6 ,see jackpot forums.

                              The data I need to input is maximum 50 lines,generated from 20-30 numbers by any wheel.

                              Hans

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