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I've always wondered about this. Lets say you had a pick 3 system that generated 3 to 4 straight hits per week.

Would this raise flags with lottery head quarters. I've heard that each retailer is tracked daily for the amount of winning tickets being sold.

So if you had such a system do you think it would be wise to jump around to different retailers to buy tickets, and cash in winning tickets, or would it be safe to use the same retailer/store all the time.

I can just imagine store clerks seeing someone come in 3 to 4 times a week to cash in winning tickets. 

Has anyone here ever ran into any problems from using the same store all the time? What's all of your opinions on this. Thanks everyone.

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    I've always wondered about this. Lets say you had a pick 3 system that generated 3 to 4 straight hits per week.

    Would this raise flags with lottery head quarters. I've heard that each retailer is tracked daily for the amount of winning tickets being sold.

    So if you had such a system do you think it would be wise to jump around to different retailers to buy tickets, and cash in winning tickets, or would it be safe to use the same retailer/store all the time.

    I can just imagine store clerks seeing someone come in 3 to 4 times a week to cash in winning tickets. 

    Has anyone here ever ran into any problems from using the same store all the time? What's all of your opinions on this. Thanks everyone.

    I wonder if you are tracked if you play online and win (I don't think so but I'm not sure yet because I haven't played online), at least that's where the bigger winnings are to be made ($900 opposed to $500 for straight) . In this case I think you would be safer to play online if you had a good system that hit well every week.

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      Posted: December 8, 2014, 3:40 am - IP Logged

      I've always wondered about this. Lets say you had a pick 3 system that generated 3 to 4 straight hits per week.

      Would this raise flags with lottery head quarters. I've heard that each retailer is tracked daily for the amount of winning tickets being sold.

      So if you had such a system do you think it would be wise to jump around to different retailers to buy tickets, and cash in winning tickets, or would it be safe to use the same retailer/store all the time.

      I can just imagine store clerks seeing someone come in 3 to 4 times a week to cash in winning tickets. 

      Has anyone here ever ran into any problems from using the same store all the time? What's all of your opinions on this. Thanks everyone.

      I had problems with clerks in a couple of stores, but it wasn't because I was hitting the pick-3 three or four times a week. I'm assuming the question is hypothetical or you're talking about playing lots of lines, but if it's the latter, the clerks would know how much you spent and no questions asked.

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        I had problems with clerks in a couple of stores, but it wasn't because I was hitting the pick-3 three or four times a week. I'm assuming the question is hypothetical or you're talking about playing lots of lines, but if it's the latter, the clerks would know how much you spent and no questions asked.

        Thanks Stack47. No not many lines. I just wonder if a person could hit 3 to 4 straight hits a week consistently and cashed in the winning tickets at the same store all the time if the lottery would do a investigation on that store for having sold many straight hit tickets.

        And if a person could hit 3 to 4 straight hits every week without fail the store clerks would probably start to wonder how it was being done.

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          i have a system that  wins, but it always wins 1/5 of the  price to enter it

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            Thanks Stack47. No not many lines. I just wonder if a person could hit 3 to 4 straight hits a week consistently and cashed in the winning tickets at the same store all the time if the lottery would do a investigation on that store for having sold many straight hit tickets.

            And if a person could hit 3 to 4 straight hits every week without fail the store clerks would probably start to wonder how it was being done.

            I was in a small Krogers' the other day and noticed they had paid out $1900 'last week' in lottery winnings. That's going to fluctuate week to week and I don't know if that is a good, bad or average week for that store. 

            The small convenience store not far from here pays out $800 to $1200 a week by what flashes across their screen. (I've seen it as low as $137.)

            Judging by that, if a small retailer increased their sales by $30 - $50 a week and began to pay out twice what they had been paying in the past, it might raise some eyebrows.

            For example, if this little convenience store paying out $800, suddenly started paying out $1800 to $2400 somebody might red flag it to determine if the increase is due to scratch offs or terminal sales.  Or possibly put a six month watch on it to see if the increase is temporary.

            But that wouldn't make the same difference for a high traffic/high volume retailer who pays out $3000 to $5000 a week.

             

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              I was in a small Krogers' the other day and noticed they had paid out $1900 'last week' in lottery winnings. That's going to fluctuate week to week and I don't know if that is a good, bad or average week for that store. 

              The small convenience store not far from here pays out $800 to $1200 a week by what flashes across their screen. (I've seen it as low as $137.)

              Judging by that, if a small retailer increased their sales by $30 - $50 a week and began to pay out twice what they had been paying in the past, it might raise some eyebrows.

              For example, if this little convenience store paying out $800, suddenly started paying out $1800 to $2400 somebody might red flag it to determine if the increase is due to scratch offs or terminal sales.  Or possibly put a six month watch on it to see if the increase is temporary.

              But that wouldn't make the same difference for a high traffic/high volume retailer who pays out $3000 to $5000 a week.

               

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              Thanks garyo1954. If a person could hit 3 to 4 straight hits every week year round. I wonder if the lottery would allow it. I don't think there's much they could do but man i know they wouldn't like it.

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                Posted: December 8, 2014, 7:41 am - IP Logged

                4 straights out of 14 draws a week is small change. 

                 

                Don't worry. No one is watching you.   

                 

                have you not noticed . Payouts range from $100, 000 to $1.5 million a draw

                 

                Your $500 is nothing extra. 

                 

                There are far greater losers to pay winners..


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                  I've always wondered about this. Lets say you had a pick 3 system that generated 3 to 4 straight hits per week.

                  Would this raise flags with lottery head quarters. I've heard that each retailer is tracked daily for the amount of winning tickets being sold.

                  So if you had such a system do you think it would be wise to jump around to different retailers to buy tickets, and cash in winning tickets, or would it be safe to use the same retailer/store all the time.

                  I can just imagine store clerks seeing someone come in 3 to 4 times a week to cash in winning tickets. 

                  Has anyone here ever ran into any problems from using the same store all the time? What's all of your opinions on this. Thanks everyone.

                  I'd imagine that If the person was smart enough to hit 3 or 4 times a week str8, he/she would be smart enough not to redeem the tickets at the same store every week.

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                    Posted: December 8, 2014, 5:33 pm - IP Logged

                    I'd imagine that If the person was smart enough to hit 3 or 4 times a week str8, he/she would be smart enough not to redeem the tickets at the same store every week.

                    Another thing to consider might be the time you cash your tickets and how crowded the store is. If you were to win a $2 or

                    $3 straight or more, I would be a bit leery about having the clerk count out that much money on the counter in front of

                    people. In that case, asking the clerk if we could that in private, should not be a problem. At least it shouldn't if it is a store 

                    that you frequent regularly.

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                    The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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                      Thanks everyone for the replies. My main question here was is I just wonder how long a person could get away with hitting 3 to 4 straight hits per week, and using the same store to buy and redeem the tickets over and over again. How long do you think it could go on before the lottery would put a stop to it or do you think they could even do anything about it?

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                        Thanks everyone for the replies. My main question here was is I just wonder how long a person could get away with hitting 3 to 4 straight hits per week, and using the same store to buy and redeem the tickets over and over again. How long do you think it could go on before the lottery would put a stop to it or do you think they could even do anything about it?

                        tj47, 

                        You play to win the game, right?  At least I do...  If you're hitting straight 3 or 4 times a week the only way they would know it was you, would be if they were to look at the store's video tape. Assuming there was one. The clerks and store owners would know that you are "very lucky," but so what? They get a percentage of sales and winning tickets so they would  be happy for you. And if they get a reputation as a lucky store, it will be good for their business.

                        Now, if you start getting knocks on your door in the middle of the night from lottery officials, then it's time to move or play somewhere else that does enough lottery business where your winnings won't be noticed. But until then, I wouldn't worry about it.

                        Good  Luck!!!

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                          tj47, 

                          You play to win the game, right?  At least I do...  If you're hitting straight 3 or 4 times a week the only way they would know it was you, would be if they were to look at the store's video tape. Assuming there was one. The clerks and store owners would know that you are "very lucky," but so what? They get a percentage of sales and winning tickets so they would  be happy for you. And if they get a reputation as a lucky store, it will be good for their business.

                          Now, if you start getting knocks on your door in the middle of the night from lottery officials, then it's time to move or play somewhere else that does enough lottery business where your winnings won't be noticed. But until then, I wouldn't worry about it.

                          Good  Luck!!!

                          Thanks a lot for answering my question grwurston. I appreciate that. The only sucky part about straight hits is that often times they go over the threshold of $599 then we have to mail them in to redeem them. I wish the threshold was $1,000 instead of $599 wishful thinking I know but it sure would be nice. The snail mail process sucks.

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                            Thanks a lot for answering my question grwurston. I appreciate that. The only sucky part about straight hits is that often times they go over the threshold of $599 then we have to mail them in to redeem them. I wish the threshold was $1,000 instead of $599 wishful thinking I know but it sure would be nice. The snail mail process sucks.

                            I guess you live in a paramutuel state if they sometimes go over 599. Why don't you just play two 50c straights instead of a $1? Then you'll stay under the threshold.

                            "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                            The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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                              I guess you live in a paramutuel state if they sometimes go over 599. Why don't you just play two 50c straights instead of a $1? Then you'll stay under the threshold.

                              That's Ca for ya. They stick it to you coming and going. No 50c bets here. All they have is to play box and straight together but the payoff is 50% of the normal payoff amount, and the ticket still costs $1