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Posted: December 9, 2014, 10:35 pm - IP Logged

Thanks Stack47. No not many lines. I just wonder if a person could hit 3 to 4 straight hits a week consistently and cashed in the winning tickets at the same store all the time if the lottery would do a investigation on that store for having sold many straight hit tickets.

And if a person could hit 3 to 4 straight hits every week without fail the store clerks would probably start to wonder how it was being done.

Most states have enough wagered yearly on their pick-3 game, they can expect to keep 50% of their ticket sales based on the $500 to $1 payoffs. Some states have an average daily sales of $1 million meaning they are paying out on average $500,000 every day. The lottery officials actually expect players to win every day; just not the same players every day. Clerks will wonder how it's being done, but there are many stores selling tickets and easy enough to cash at several locations.

I played pick-3 combos multiple times so I'd ask the clerk or the owner how easy or difficult it is to cash that many tickets. The answers varied from cashing one ticket to as many as you have. Unless a player or players are winning often enough to raise the payoff percentage well over 50%, the state lottery won't notice.

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    Most states have enough wagered yearly on their pick-3 game, they can expect to keep 50% of their ticket sales based on the $500 to $1 payoffs. Some states have an average daily sales of $1 million meaning they are paying out on average $500,000 every day. The lottery officials actually expect players to win every day; just not the same players every day. Clerks will wonder how it's being done, but there are many stores selling tickets and easy enough to cash at several locations.

    I played pick-3 combos multiple times so I'd ask the clerk or the owner how easy or difficult it is to cash that many tickets. The answers varied from cashing one ticket to as many as you have. Unless a player or players are winning often enough to raise the payoff percentage well over 50%, the state lottery won't notice.

    Thanks Stack. Appreciate your answer to this.

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      Posted: December 14, 2014, 9:25 pm - IP Logged

      I've always wondered about this. Lets say you had a pick 3 system that generated 3 to 4 straight hits per week.

      Would this raise flags with lottery head quarters. I've heard that each retailer is tracked daily for the amount of winning tickets being sold.

      So if you had such a system do you think it would be wise to jump around to different retailers to buy tickets, and cash in winning tickets, or would it be safe to use the same retailer/store all the time.

      I can just imagine store clerks seeing someone come in 3 to 4 times a week to cash in winning tickets. 

      Has anyone here ever ran into any problems from using the same store all the time? What's all of your opinions on this. Thanks everyone.

      You raise a important question tj47 for anyone that becomes an advantage player i.e, consistent winner with a positive ROI

      Usually management will want to identify any such player because they are overcoming the predestined losing odds & could potentially making a living off their (game) living Wink the way mgt sees it the game is for entertainment and outside of a lucky streak, the player is suppose to lose & if not they will investigate what went wrong with the game.

      Small wagers go under the radar but big repeats will eventually raise a flag somewhere in the system

      Assume nothing, particularly if you found an exploitable flaw

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      Most all identifiable consistent advantage gamblers have had to contend with problems with mgt

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        Posted: December 15, 2014, 9:08 am - IP Logged

        Guess the only way you'll ever find out is if you do start hitting 3 or 4 straights a week,lol. Wouldn't worry about this if I were you. Hitting even 1 a week would be...shall I say it...pretty impossible unless you're playing pretty heavy every draw. Just buy all separate tickets and cash them in at different places,no biggie.

        By the way,if you do want to start hitting more often and are here in CA, our hottest P3 digit is 0. Keep up on longest out due pairs. Right now that's 07.

         

        007 017 027 037 047 057 067 071 072 073 074 075 076 077 078 079 087 097

        107 207 307 407 507 607 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 807 907

        070 170 270 370 470 570 670 700 710 720 730 740 750 760 770 780 790 870 970

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          Guess the only way you'll ever find out is if you do start hitting 3 or 4 straights a week,lol. Wouldn't worry about this if I were you. Hitting even 1 a week would be...shall I say it...pretty impossible unless you're playing pretty heavy every draw. Just buy all separate tickets and cash them in at different places,no biggie.

          By the way,if you do want to start hitting more often and are here in CA, our hottest P3 digit is 0. Keep up on longest out due pairs. Right now that's 07.

           

          007 017 027 037 047 057 067 071 072 073 074 075 076 077 078 079 087 097

          107 207 307 407 507 607 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 807 907

          070 170 270 370 470 570 670 700 710 720 730 740 750 760 770 780 790 870 970

          if you won 3 or 4 times a week  i would think you had a crystal ball.Lurking

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            Posted: December 15, 2014, 10:08 am - IP Logged

            I've always wondered about this. Lets say you had a pick 3 system that generated 3 to 4 straight hits per week.

            Would this raise flags with lottery head quarters. I've heard that each retailer is tracked daily for the amount of winning tickets being sold.

            So if you had such a system do you think it would be wise to jump around to different retailers to buy tickets, and cash in winning tickets, or would it be safe to use the same retailer/store all the time.

            I can just imagine store clerks seeing someone come in 3 to 4 times a week to cash in winning tickets. 

            Has anyone here ever ran into any problems from using the same store all the time? What's all of your opinions on this. Thanks everyone.

            Playing and winning at the same store collecting non taxable winnings on a regular basis the tax man could collar you.

            Lotteries could be tracking store info to report to the tax man.

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              Guess the only way you'll ever find out is if you do start hitting 3 or 4 straights a week,lol. Wouldn't worry about this if I were you. Hitting even 1 a week would be...shall I say it...pretty impossible unless you're playing pretty heavy every draw. Just buy all separate tickets and cash them in at different places,no biggie.

              By the way,if you do want to start hitting more often and are here in CA, our hottest P3 digit is 0. Keep up on longest out due pairs. Right now that's 07.

               

              007 017 027 037 047 057 067 071 072 073 074 075 076 077 078 079 087 097

              107 207 307 407 507 607 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 807 907

              070 170 270 370 470 570 670 700 710 720 730 740 750 760 770 780 790 870 970

              If you played 150-200 combos a day would it be possible to hit 3-4 straights a week? (paying .25 each ticket though so cost isn't so high). I could imagine if someone was good at using filters or seeing patterns it would be possible.

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                If you played 150-200 combos a day would it be possible to hit 3-4 straights a week? (paying .25 each ticket though so cost isn't so high). I could imagine if someone was good at using filters or seeing patterns it would be possible.

                You could play 500 numbers a day and still not hit a straight. Even 999 numbers a day and you might still miss it,lol. There's no guarantee. Sure,you could use filtering and patterns and so on but...STILL. Are you using the right filters? Perhaps if you were playing online you could be riskier but here in Cali...it's a buck a ticket. No 25 cents,No 50 cents....a straight up buckeroo a ticket.

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                  no system can beat the randomness of these number games. NONE. play by what YOU think is the right number and time it base on pattern study. If pattern study is what you called a system, so be it but don't rely on any other systems and play everyday. You WILL lose most of your hard earned $.

                  playing what can be afforded...spend half of what was reclaimed.

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                    Playing and winning at the same store collecting non taxable winnings on a regular basis the tax man could collar you.

                    Lotteries could be tracking store info to report to the tax man.

                    I Agree!

                    Think about it realistically , it just makes sense, the provider is using super computers & tracking for multi purposes is a fore gone conclusion, what is generally not seriously grasped is that the provider will not sit idly by while players turn the game into a personal bank drawing account for themselves- 

                    Two problems face all on going gaming players....

                    1. how to create some methodology to over come the odds & become a consistent winner resulting in a positive ROI
                    2. *once achieved; then the player must contend with a bigger challenge, how to stay under the ID radar & out wit the reactive countermeasures

                     *many players fluff this off by saying they wish they had this problem Wink

                     

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                      Posted: December 15, 2014, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

                       #2) Answer. Don't get greedy. If you create a winning system and you start cashing in $10 straights 3 or 4 times a week

                      you're bound to attract attention to yourself. Keep it low key. Don't show off. Blend in. Take the $1 or $2 straight for a longer

                      period of time. If you start cashing crazy big $$$ and they get suspicious and think somebody "cracked the code," and change

                      the game, your system may become  worthless. As well as everyone elses. Not to mention if you suddenly start putting 

                      10K or 15K in cash in your  bank  account every week  they, (the bank)  might wonder where it's coming from.

                      It's kind of like if you're sitting at a stop sign in a 500 horsepower muscle car and you see a cop coming.

                      Are you going to just sit there and let him go by, or are you going to shoot out, and smoke up the tires right

                      in front of him?  Which one do you think is going to attract his attention and get your butt in trouble?

                      "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                      The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

                      Every lottery system can be improved. If you're not winning almost every day, yours can be made better.

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                          Thanks so much everyone for all the helpful replies. Just got a chance to read through them. You all are so great. I have been lurking here at lotterypost since about 2008 but haven't been very active.

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                            no system can beat the randomness of these number games. NONE. play by what YOU think is the right number and time it base on pattern study. If pattern study is what you called a system, so be it but don't rely on any other systems and play everyday. You WILL lose most of your hard earned $.

                            "If pattern study is what you called a system, so be it but don't rely on any other systems and play everyday."

                            Anything we do to consciously pick a number can be called a system. Because the drawings are random, it makes it difficult to create a consistent winning system, but that too depends on how often the system is played. Can't lose that much if the system play is every fifth Friday of the month.


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                              Playing and winning at the same store collecting non taxable winnings on a regular basis the tax man could collar you.

                              Lotteries could be tracking store info to report to the tax man.

                              Any wins are taxable, it's just that the smaller wins aren't enforced.