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PA Raffle Countdown to 500,000 ...

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Posted: December 25, 2014, 12:31 pm - IP Logged

Pa lottery updated their website to show tickets remaining, over 200K remaining. They will have to avg over 20K tickets a day to sell out.

I just got this number of tickets remaining two minutes ago ... 202,105

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    Posted: December 25, 2014, 1:29 pm - IP Logged

    I just got this number of tickets remaining two minutes ago ... 202,105

    Went back to see how many tickets were sold in the last 56 minutes ... the number remaining is now 200,972.

    So they seem to updating constantly as tickets are being sold.

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      Posted: December 29, 2014, 3:08 pm - IP Logged

      Pa lottery is pushing the game big time.  It is advertising on electronic billboards and commercials  and sales stop at 5 pm this Saturday,  so they will have to average over 26k tickets a day to meet the 500k sales goal.  Sales started Nov.  14. I am hoping they discount these by Friday.

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        Posted: December 29, 2014, 4:41 pm - IP Logged

        Not to hijack but Va sold out and I'm sure CT is close. I think it's obvious what kind of game players want when people fork over 10/20$ with no problem. Hopefully one of us can post a winning ticket.

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          Posted: December 29, 2014, 9:54 pm - IP Logged

          There is 125k left and they will sell out by Jan 1 or 2. They never have a problem selling out in recent years.

          People wait until the end. The casual player doesn't even know what this is about.

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            Posted: December 30, 2014, 1:10 pm - IP Logged

            There is 125k left and they will sell out by Jan 1 or 2. They never have a problem selling out in recent years.

            People wait until the end. The casual player doesn't even know what this is about.

            You're right, they will sell out. 

            I don't know why, but people hold off until the bitter end to buy them.  That same phenomena happens in Connecticut with their SuperDraw raffle.  There must be a reason for that, but I'll be darned if I know what it is.

            And you're also correct that most players haven't got a clue as to what it is.  I can't tell you the number of times that I've told somebody about CT's twice per year million dollar raffles and their reaction is always the same.

            "REALLY??   Where can I get one?" is what I usually hear.  G5

            About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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              Posted: December 31, 2014, 4:54 pm - IP Logged

              Sales are quite accelerated today,  about 78k remaining with 72 hours to go. Need to avg 26k per day over the next three days to sell out.  I suspect some will be too hungerover to purchase them tomorrow.

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                Posted: December 31, 2014, 9:41 pm - IP Logged

                got mine today

                401388

                401392

                401395

                401399

                401401

                good luck everyone!

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                  Posted: January 1, 2015, 5:37 am - IP Logged

                  Sales are quite accelerated today,  about 78k remaining with 72 hours to go. Need to avg 26k per day over the next three days to sell out.  I suspect some will be too hungerover to purchase them tomorrow.

                  Sold around 34K yesterday, which is impressive compared to past year peaks. Yep, today will be the critical day. If raffle sales again exceed 30K, PA Lottery will easily sell out in time. I did my part, and bought one very early in the day.

                  But if there are still more than 50K tickets remaining going into the 2nd, it will be a nail-biter for lottery officials - not from an economic standpoint, but rather in regards to pride / marketing ... PA Lottery widely touts the raffle always selling out. At this point, all signs point to another on-time, sell out.

                  Be interesting to see what the PA Lottery does for their mid-year raffle. The current payout matrix is ok, but would like to see them change it up a bit. And/or introducing a smaller 100,000 tickets, $50 per entry (or even $100, though I suspect only Texas would ever try that) raffle - I'd buy a ticket for sure.

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                    Posted: January 1, 2015, 8:28 am - IP Logged

                    Sold around 34K yesterday, which is impressive compared to past year peaks. Yep, today will be the critical day. If raffle sales again exceed 30K, PA Lottery will easily sell out in time. I did my part, and bought one very early in the day.

                    But if there are still more than 50K tickets remaining going into the 2nd, it will be a nail-biter for lottery officials - not from an economic standpoint, but rather in regards to pride / marketing ... PA Lottery widely touts the raffle always selling out. At this point, all signs point to another on-time, sell out.

                    Be interesting to see what the PA Lottery does for their mid-year raffle. The current payout matrix is ok, but would like to see them change it up a bit. And/or introducing a smaller 100,000 tickets, $50 per entry (or even $100, though I suspect only Texas would ever try that) raffle - I'd buy a ticket for sure.

                    I'd go for a 50 or 100 dollar ticket.

                    I spend 80 bucks on them now, so whether it's one or four/five tickets, it doesn't make a difference to me. 

                    I'm a casual player.  I regularly play two online games in New York, but I don't spend as much as I can afford to  spend playing those games.  Recently I've started looking for raffles as I think they're the way to go.  MUSL had a "Halloween Raffle" in The Fall of 2013, (which NY sold) and they said that another raffle would be held in The Spring of 2014, but it never materialized.  I cant help but wonder why those raffles went away.  The only thing I can think of is that they must not have delivered the dollars MUSL wanted, or they'd still be offering them. 

                    IMHO, players will make the switch to raffles from the high odd's games, but it might take a while for them to catch on, because as was noted in this thread in an earlier post, most players don't have clue with regard to what they are.  PA doesn't seem to be having any difficulty selling tickets for this raffle, and gauging from the PA Lottery's website, it appears as if they have had success with them since 2004.

                    I will say this though, (I've no idea why it happened) but in Connecticut's Fourth of July raffle for 2014, approximately 131,000 tickets out of a possible 275,000 were sold.  CT's raffle tickets are only 10 dollars, so either people didn't have the cash, or they just weren't interested in playing it.

                    About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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                      Posted: January 1, 2015, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

                      54k left with less than 48 hours remaining.

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                        Posted: January 1, 2015, 5:45 pm - IP Logged

                        Looks like PA will make it, but it's going to be close. I'm estimating late afternoon on the 3rd, just hours prior to draw time, they'll sell out.

                        Other states, such as Delaware, have offered $10 raffle tickets, and struggled to sell them all. Ohio has extended their sales window and still might not make it. What makes the difference, beyond just population alone, is the number of readily accessible lottery terminals and player loyalty. PA has a very strong lottery - many states aren't as fortunate, and struggle with their lottery operations; some outsource it, but often that doesn't help / makes matters worse. If players don't feel valued, they won't play as much - loyalty really matters, especially when there are so many other gaming choices out there.

                        As for the difficulty of selling raffle tickets, the vast majority of lottery players don't really understand much about the games they play - it's among the main reasons for the popularity of instant tickets ... just scratch and cash. Fast with little to no thought required - heck, some just buy whatever is in the machine at the price-point they desire, and then scan it to see if it's a winner...

                        This extends to numbers games, and California is a prime example of it in action. Take a look at the number of Powerball and Mega Millions lottery tickets sold there, which is huge, and then take a look at the number of tickets sold for their in-state Pick 3 and Pick 4 games - relatively little considering the population of the state. PA Lottery net revenue is only somewhat less than that of the California Lottery despite Pennsylvania having 1/3 the population.

                        Most lottery players, even more so in other states, play the familiar numbers games (in state lotto, Powerball, and Mega Millions) that have relatively low price points of $2 or less. Raffle seems way too expensive and complicated - ignorance is bliss. Most players don't want anything too different despite many saying they do; $20 raffle tickets is out of the comfort zone for many.

                        It's the same issue one sees at a casino - many players will gravitate towards the quarter and less slots, especially the penny ones - sure, it seems like a value, but the penny slots are about the worst payout machines one will encounter at a casino. Savvy slot players on a limited budget will focus their play on the highest denomination that provides them reasonable length play - for many that would be quarters to $5 machines; higher denomination machines can actually be both a better value and cheaper to play, such as a typical max bet 3 coins quarter slot (75 cents total) verses a penny machine with 225 coin ($2.25) max bet.

                        States with smaller populations and/or less player loyalty would do better to offer a very limited raffle, such as 10,000 to 100,000 tickets max. The price-point really doesn't matter much; $10, $20, or heck even $50-$100. The relatively small group of diehard players will buy raffle tickets regardless of the price, if the odds and/or payout structure is better than the typical numbers game offerings.

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                          The pool I run for Ct won $100 in today's SuperDraw raffle.  Third straight time we've done it!  G5

                          About playing the lottery --  You will lose more than you win. Until you hit a jackpot.  Then everything changes!

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                            The pool I run for Ct won $100 in today's SuperDraw raffle.  Third straight time we've done it!  G5

                            That's a great streak. Won zip so I'm only buying one ticket for each game next year.

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                              Posted: January 2, 2015, 4:54 pm - IP Logged

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